Why a Brute?

[Erratic1]

4 hours ago, Gobbledigook said:

I warched that back in the day. 🙂

 

My favourite is...

 

 

 

The thing about black holes is...they're black.

 

And the thing about space is...its black.

[brass_eagle]

On 10/24/2024 at 11:11 PM, Erratic1 said:

 

Ston was a rather prolific collector/tester of AT performance and the image was taken from his thread: 

 

You can click the above and go to the thread. Mind you, this is only a portion of of the totality of his work and discusses on Trapdoor, which favors area attacks and more importantly procs--something it is somewhat hard to load up on as a Brute as compared to a Tanker because Brutes have to bend their slotting towards survivability. Pylon is another common metric. And before this thread, there were others where people both reported their performance and often video clips of their runs. In the previous Trapdoor thread (in the Scrapper subforums I think) Ston would regularly challenge people's notions on exactly what type of performance could be managed on Tankers. You can catch him doing so in the following thread (which predates the one above) here:

 

 

Posting the image I did is a remind to some of the participants of this thread they participated in those other threads and did not find near the objections they have managed to find in this one.

 

 

 

Thank you for doing your due diligence. I remember I do have a few issues with the study, not to undermine the amount of data collection. There are some good results here too

 

But nonetheless--always cite if you are going to call people ignorant. It only helps you:

 

  

On 10/16/2024 at 1:04 AM, Erratic1 said:

 

This is a lot like saying, "Everyone else is getting paid more but your salary stayed the same, so you're okay." You and Tidge both ignore the reality and objectivity of actual, documented performance... *goes on to say things past insult*

 

 

As someone that has had to reply to everything in this thread, please be kinder to your fellow forum dwellers. And do your part if you care that much about brutes. Your "on the offense" posts did nothing to bring me to your side. If this was supposed to be persuasive, I was turned off quickly. I invite you to change tactics from being "right at every turn" a little bit.

 

EDIT: I want to edit, I do think plenty of what you said has merit, and by no means was I trying to shut you down or be malicious. My criticism is of your approach. I love it when people succeed and I want that. I love when an argument can change my mind. It is often an extremely difficult task to do just that in this post-modern internet era. I do realize my post here was a bit too "focused" on you. My apologies. I am all for correcting the record where I can. Thanks for your understanding. @Erratic1

Edited October 29 by brass_eagle
see EDIT:

[Maelwys]

On 10/25/2024 at 11:20 PM, Erratic1 said:

 

The thing about black holes is...they're black.

 

And the thing about space is...its black.

Kryten: "They've taken Mr Rimmer. Sir, they've taken Mr Rimmer!"
Cat: "Quick, let's get out of here before they bring him back..."
 

Holly: "Nothing wrong with dog's milk. Full of goodness, full of vitamins, full of marrowbone jelly. Lasts longer than any other type of milk, dog's milk."

Lister: "Why?"

Holly: "No bugger'll drink it."

*Ahem*
What were we talking about?
Oh yes:

So Kryten's a Tanker.
Lister's a Scrapper.
Cat's a Stalker.
Rimmer's a [Smeeeeee...]

 

[Without_Pause]

On 10/25/2024 at 7:29 AM, Erratic1 said:

Completely untrue. A Brute will never, ever, EVER tank as well as a Tanker. Period. They will also never, ever, EVER do as much damage as a Scrapper or Stalker. There is no choice. They will be second place no matter what they do.

One thing I learned in school is how often absolutes were not in fact true. I'm not saying I was tanking on a Brute, but I was out surviving the comparable Tanker build while soloing. Also, good luck to a Scrapper and Stalker doing more damage than a Brute with a damage aura in the lower levels. In short, I rerolled a Tanker build for Gold side content for the sake of exploring said content to a Brute, and I'm doing missions faster and safer. Sure, eventually the Tanker will get its footing and stop being so boring to play, but the advantages of being a Tanker in this situation is nil. 

[Octogoat]

No thoughts just deer 🦌

[Triumphant]

2 hours ago, Octogoat said:

No thoughts just deer 🦌

 

BRUTE SMASH DEER!!!  😁