Super Atom Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 (edited) more fighting over how ass or not ass the presence pool is, is real cool and all for the 10th time but im just gonna leave these here for no reason https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Utility_Belthttps://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Gadgetry 🌭 Edited October 24 by Super Atom Added a Hotdog 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brass_eagle Posted October 24 Share Posted October 24 Wow! Got spicy in here! I would like to point out that fully-enhanced HoT in unrelenting is on par with Instant Healing from Regen. 1000%+ regeneration is ~%4.2 health per second if my math is correct. On top of that, Alpha Incarante's will affect it to a greater effect to Unrelenting than Instant Healing due to the unenhanceable regen component. AND Unrelenting can be boosted by -res(toHeal), +healEffects (powerboost, Clarion, Bloom from Nature Affinity). I abuse it on my /energy blaster. It is quite potent for that alone, disregarding the other/alternate effects. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Biff Pow Posted October 26 Share Posted October 26 Suggestion for Presence Pool travel power: Vanish (as in, turn around and they're gone) It's just Teleport but quiet. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsanotic Posted Thursday at 10:20 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:20 PM On 10/24/2024 at 12:39 AM, Rudra said: ...This is a power that is supposed to rez you (because once upon a time it was only a self-rez)... Unrelenting was never *only* a self rez. Everything it does, it always did. It's also bad as a self rez because it doesn't give you untouchable, so in many cases in which you'd use it, you'll just die again. Then your really cool, long recharge power is down and you're dead. Again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted Thursday at 10:36 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:36 PM 14 minutes ago, Crimsanotic said: Unrelenting was never *only* a self rez. Everything it does, it always did. It's also bad as a self rez because it doesn't give you untouchable, so in many cases in which you'd use it, you'll just die again. Then your really cool, long recharge power is down and you're dead. Again. Yes, it was. No one took it. When the other rezzes got Untouchable added to them, Unrelenting did not. Players complained. Unrelenting was changed to how it is now. So while it still isn't a good rez, unless you're safe enough from enemy attacks to use it, it became a solid HoT with offense buff. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsanotic Posted Thursday at 10:38 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:38 PM Just now, Rudra said: Yes, it was. No one took it. When the other rezzes got Untouchable added to them, Unrelenting did not. Players complained. Unrelenting was changed to how it is now. So while it still isn't a good rez, unless you're safe enough from enemy attacks to use it, it became a solid HoT with offense buff. Unrelenting was added in Issue 24 and never made it to live, as I24 was only in beta. And the only change Unrelenting got from I24 beta to now is removing the part that negates the crash on powers that do so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted Thursday at 10:41 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:41 PM 1 minute ago, Crimsanotic said: Unrelenting was added in Issue 24 and never made it to live, as I24 was only in beta. And the only change Unrelenting got from I24 beta to now is removing the part that negates the crash on powers that do so. I remember using it back on Live. Maybe I am misremembering, but I do remember it being active back on Live. When the power pools were expanded to 5 powers each. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Crimsanotic Posted Thursday at 10:44 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:44 PM 1 minute ago, Rudra said: I remember using it back on Live. Maybe I am misremembering, but I do remember it being active back on Live. When the power pools were expanded to 5 powers each. It would have been on live, just on test server, which I24's was around forever because they never actually patched the normal client with it (though I24 was done for a few months IIRC). But either way, adding untouchable to unrelenting would be very welcome. My personal opinion is that it's not generally worth taking because the opportunity cost for it is too high, and so I would like to see some adjustments to the presence pool. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted Thursday at 10:50 PM Share Posted Thursday at 10:50 PM 2 minutes ago, Crimsanotic said: adding untouchable to unrelenting would be very welcome. I wouldn't complain. 2 minutes ago, Crimsanotic said: My personal opinion is that it's not generally worth taking because the opportunity cost for it is too high, Thanks for stating it is your personal opinion. Because I find Unrelenting to be a great power pick. (Just a difficult one to fit in.) 3 minutes ago, Crimsanotic said: I24 was done for a few months IIRC). I24 was actually partially on Live before shutdown. For instance, the nukes stopped causing crashes even on the Live server for a couple months before the game shut down. (Odds are, the devs just threw a partial update before shut down so we could play with some of the arriving toys before the game went away.) I24 never went Live itself, but parts of it did pop up in the game before the shutdown. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Girl Posted Thursday at 11:14 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:14 PM On 10/24/2024 at 1:55 AM, Indystruck said: If anyone has ever had the self rez component of Unrelenting work please post in this topic confirming it right now i really like Presence for concept reasons and i can promise that the self-rez component works. it's just that if it's used in a bad spot then you're just gonna die right away. it's ofc much better to use it before actually getting knocked out... 1 g_d's lil' monster ❤️ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraAlt Posted Thursday at 11:29 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:29 PM 14 minutes ago, Owl Girl said: i really like Presence for concept reasons and i can promise that the self-rez component works. it's just that if it's used in a bad spot then you're just gonna die right away. it's ofc much better to use it before actually getting knocked out... I would go on to say it is better to use when you are at 1/2 health, because if you get down below 1/4 health, it is unlikely to save you from falling in combat. 1 If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted Thursday at 11:37 PM Share Posted Thursday at 11:37 PM 6 minutes ago, UltraAlt said: I would go on to say it is better to use when you are at 1/2 health, because if you get down below 1/4 health, it is unlikely to save you from falling in combat. To be perfectly fair, that depends entirely on the character. My brutes for instance, I don't use Unrelenting until they are at 1/4 health or around that point. And they usually get back to full health before I finish deleting my adversaries. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
UltraAlt Posted Friday at 04:14 PM Share Posted Friday at 04:14 PM 16 hours ago, Rudra said: To be perfectly fair, that depends entirely on the character. My brutes for instance, I don't use Unrelenting until they are at 1/4 health or around that point. And they usually get back to full health before I finish deleting my adversaries. Do not use without proper consultation. Use only as directed. Result may vary. Visit our website for full list of possible side effects. 1 If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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