Elec/Fire/Fire Build attached

[HachiMan2015]

Hi Blaster experts,

 

I was hoping someone could have a look at my attempt on this build. I know that S/L/E def is the meta priority but I really wanted the Fire epic for story as well as concept.

 

Am I on an ok path? Are my defenses "good enough" for regular play? I will be playing him as a blapper for sure so running in and out of melee. If the build could use some "cleaning up" feel free to do so. Won't hurt my feelings if you think its a hot mess.

 

 

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[HachiMan2015]

I am not sure how to send a build link through mids so I hope the data chunk is enough?

[Meknomancer]

3 hours ago, HachiMan2015 said:

I am not sure how to send a build link through mids so I hope the data chunk is enough?

 

Copy and paste of data chunks isn't working for me, you can drag the file from documents directly into the box at the bottom. I've been running my blasters lately with minimal defence and resistance, like 24% ranged, 20% melee, 55'ish % s/l resistance and they work just fine and are a lot of fun, nothing wrong with going for fire epic if your having fun with it. 

[HachiMan2015]

Blaster (Electrical Blast - Fire Manipulation).mbd

 

nice bit of info to know! thank You.

[Soulsifter]

Another couple of options reside within Mids itself.

 

While in Mids, at the top under Build Sharing it provides a drop down. Pick the first option (recommended)

This brings up a new window with 4 tabs along the top.

Select Build Links (API)

Click the Submit button in the middle.

Wait for the fields at the right to populate then copy the Download URL.

 

You can now post this to the forums as a direct data link to your build.

 

Alternately, from the same open window you can go to Forum Post (Formatted)

Light Blue in the left field seems to work best across light and dark themes, but, you do you 🙂

BBCode in the right field should be selected.

In the lower right corner click Export.

 

It is now saved to your clipboard, simply right click and Paste. This will provide the old way we did it. 

 

Hope this helps! 

 

Take care.

 

Edited October 31 by Soulsifter

[kelika2]

oh damn another elec/fire/fire what are the odds

anyways i went for ranged defense because i had too many attacks and permahasten felt like a waste and slotting for melee defense with mostly ranged attacks kinda felt meh

 

elecfire.txt

[Meknomancer]

On 10/30/2024 at 2:34 AM, HachiMan2015 said:

Blaster (Electrical Blast - Fire Manipulation).mbd 40.7 kB · 5 downloads

 

nice bit of info to know! thank You.

 

Ok i can see the build there, not sure where to start to be honest. When your building your toons in mids you need to have some sort of aim in mind like mini/max dps or ranged defence or just for fun and then build towards that. If you look over @kelika2you'll see they have a ton of thunderstrike and eradication pieces slotted, so a cheap build with the aim of ranged and aoe defence. You have a load of winter pieces 6 slotted giving fire/cold def, 3 pieces eradication for e/ne def, pieces of rectified slotted for s/l def, and some resist and def slotted in toggles giving different bonuses. None of them are stacking up towards anything specific other than the 6th pieces of the winter sets. And those bonuses are the least useful unless your going fire farming in which case you'd want more. And more fire resistance.

 

You have lightning bolt and hotfeet unslotted and they both would want at least 5 slots in them. You skipped short circuit. Cauterizing aura would want 5 slots minimum, 6 is better. 

 

I would change the slotting on every power you picked with the exception of (possibly) the snipe/nuke/voltaic/hasten. And even with the snipe manticore set is usually my goto for the def bonus and recharge. And i would drop combustion for short circuit and dump voltaic and tesla cage-i could see a use for tesla cage if you had a 2nd hold to stack it with like char.

 

We used to see a lot of blasters heavily slotted with 6 pieces of winter sets but there was always an aim, 45% s/l, f/c, e and they often ran agility to hit those numbers giving up a lot of damage (by not proccing stuff out) and trying to make them as tanky as possible. Not recommended. But you can see roughly from the image how tossing bits in gets you those numbers.

 

Then you get a lot of blasters that build towards 32.5% ranged def and then use the rest of the slots for damage procs/slow resistance/kb protection or whatever they want.

 

Mini/maxxed builds you can see for yourself on the pylon damage threads or similar threads like trapdoor runs.

 

Or you could ignore all that and just build for fun, take whatever powers you like the look of, aim for lots of recharge and damage and forget about def+res+slow res+kb protection and be totally reliant on your team mates for tanking/buffing (or dying if your running vengeance) I'll toss on what i would find fun.

 

I don't recommend running another players build, everyone plays differently and has their own style, find yours and build towards that. If your aim is melee'ing build for 45% melee defence using obliterations/unbreakable guards/rectified reticles/5 blistering cold/5 avalanche. But thats dangerous. Ranged defence is generally best, if your running hotfeet most mobs will try to melee then try to run away so anything hitting you will be ranged/aoe. If you run end drain tactics (short circuit is best for this) mobs will again run away and then recover, turn around and toss a ranged attack at you. You don't need melee defence to melee with a blaster. 

 

Its probably not much help, you'll have to sacrifice or seriously underslot good powers to fit in everything you want because both the primary and secondary are top notch and have so many good picks and your trying to fit in fire epic stuff on top of that. Not sure my posted build will be a lot of help its just what i would run with (soul) but you can see what i was aiming for. Nothing but fun. And some recharge.

 

 

ELEC FIRE FUN - Blaster (Electrical Blast - Fire Manipulation).mbd

Edited November 1 by Meknomancer

[Nemu]

The Avalanche KD proc in burn in your original build will cause knockback because the last time I did this, many damage ticks in a short time will build up kd magnitude so much that it becomes knockback. I'd put the proc in a opener power with a large radius like short circuit, then you can open with short circuit, get the knockdown proc to buy you time to cycle through the rest of your PBAOEs.

 

The draw to elec/fire is being a PBAOE machine, If you want to play up to that then lean into ALL the PBAOEs. If you are going to lean into that strategy, then make sure you have the playstyle, the build and tools to support that.

 

You got way too many fully slotted winter sets. If this is not going to be a fire farm build then you don't need that heavy investment in fire/cold defense, and if it IS a fire farm build then you are far short of the defense/resist goal for those types of builds.

 

I'd slot Tesla cage for hold first then damage, if you have slots to spare you can do 4 piece basilisk gaze for the range defense and recharge bonus and 2 damage IOs, you have an opportunity to pair that up with Char to stack holds on bosses. If you want to go balls to the walls PBAOE murder machine, then it's a skippable power since it's not doing you any favors on either AoE or single target damage.

 

Rise of Phoenix is more useful for Hardmode content, less for regular content. If you find yourself dying too much on regular content then there are build and playstyle changes you can make to be more survivable rather than succumbing to the idea that blasters will die a lot and sinking a power pick into a self rez (only inexperienced blasters die a lot on regular content).

 

I have a love/hate relationship with Voltaic sentinel - I love the idea of it, but the actual power is lackluster and doesn't give enough bang for the buck. If I recall it had pathing/zoning issues and can detoggle. It provided marginal value for hard single targets like prolonged AV/GM fights, but outside of that it didn't do as much as I wanted it to.

 

If you are set on fire mastery then you can potentially get a build with 30ish% defense to a few vectors like Range/AoE or Melee to give you enough cushion along with outside buffs to let you stay in melee.

Edited November 1 by Nemu

[HachiMan2015]

That is a boat load of good advice and humbling as well (in a good way). Thank you everyone for all the input. Lot to think about but I can see where I may have to make some changes and some power eliminations.

 

Sometimes I get a powerset combo in mind and I become tunnel visioned on it with out opening up to other possibilities.

 

I admit the full on winter sets was a lazy man way to get things done and I wasn't thinking it through. This is *not* a farming build but I was lightly thinking hard mode maybe at some point.

 

I watched your videos @Nemu and have put them into practice with other blasters so I like to think I'm an "intermediate +" player but I have always used others builds without thought into how they gelled together.

 

Again,  a very humbling experience. 

 

My thanks to this community.

[Meknomancer]

Slightly modified build, made haven't unlocked patron yet. Already got half my debt badges, exactly what i was aiming for-lots of fun. 

ELEC FIRE FUN - Blaster (Electrical Blast - Fire Manipulation).mbd

[HachiMan2015]

Ok how does this look..I basically stole your recent one Mek, but added RotF (I'm sorry it is just fun for me) Kept the recharge *close* to what you had but squeaked out 32.5 ranged defense. My resistance suffered a bit tho.

 

Is it still a hot mess? Or am I getting closer to a semblance of a real build?

Blaster (Electrical Blast - Fire Manipulation).mbd

[Seed22]

On 10/29/2024 at 2:59 PM, HachiMan2015 said:

I know that S/L/E def is the meta priority

That hasn’t  been true for at least 2 years. It’s a common misconception spread around the forums. Blasters want +HP and of course all the damage you can get. Some healthy amount of recharge is nice too. 

Edited November 2 by Seed22

[Meknomancer]

11 hours ago, HachiMan2015 said:

Ok how does this look..I basically stole your recent one Mek, but added RotF (I'm sorry it is just fun for me) Kept the recharge *close* to what you had but squeaked out 32.5 ranged defense. My resistance suffered a bit tho.

 

Is it still a hot mess? Or am I getting closer to a semblance of a real build?

Blaster (Electrical Blast - Fire Manipulation).mbd 40.91 kB · 2 downloads

 

Chuck the gaussian proc into aim or build up. Ball lightning was slotted the way it was with the overwhelming force to get a bit of knockdown/control but with bonfire thats not necessary (i'm planning to respec into soul soon as i run patron but if your going to keep fire then you could easily run the artillery) . The defiant barrage + status i'd normally put the whole set in a single target attack you can use while mezzed if you want the full set of bonuses, i have it in cauterizing because it will fire off repeatedly on its own. If you leave it where it is your relying on using the nuke as your opener to get the benefit of it. You gave up the reactive scaling proc by taking it out of manouvres so you may want to find a slot somewhere and toss it in combat jump.

 

If i were you i'd just try out whatever takes your fancy and see if it works for you. If it doesnt you have what feels like a near infinite number of respecs (all the free ones from levelling/running tv/treespecs/buy them off /ah/wait for them to drop as recipes) It'll all depend on what content you run at what rep/who you team with/soloing/if you want to run **** content etc.

 

With toons i really enjoy playing i'll use:

 

/macro BLD1 selectbuild 1

/macro BLD2 selectbuild 2

/macro BLD3 selectbuild 3

 

and run 3 different builds depending on content and teams.

 

Don't feel like your limited to anything. You can try them all.