Hats...

[PerfecSean13]

Not sure if this is the spot for this, but with character creation...

 

It would be cool if Fedoras and other hats had the option to not show hair at the back. If you want to make say the spectrum set or an undead/zombie detective with a trenchcoat and fedora, you're stuck with the hair of an accountant out the back of it.

 

Just a suggestion, and your hard work is always appreciated! Thanks!

[Psyonico]

It would require a separate hat, something like "Fedora 1 no hair".  I'd also like to see it with a couple other hats as well.

[Etched]

I'd like to see this on ALL hats.  It would mean several costume changes but would be worth it.  

[OEM61]

If it takes new hats then it takes new hats.

I think that the "no hair" option would be the most useful.  If they could add longer-hair options as well then even better.

And this is for every bit of headwear that works that way.  If putting on a Viking helmet means automatic short hair then they need a second Viking helmet, too.

[Phanto]

I'm surprised this still isn't a thing, especially considering that hairless models already exist.

[Yomo Kimyata]

  On 11/17/2024 at 5:14 PM, PerfecSean13 said:

If you want to make say the spectrum set or an undead/zombie detective with a trenchcoat and fedora, you're stuck with the hair of an accountant out the back of it.

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[TheMoneyMaker]

While being able to choose hairstyles under the hats would be ideal, I too think at the very least there should be at least 2 versions of each hat to show one with the existing hair option and one with no hair at all. Can be a little weird to have a character who wears a full mask that covers the whole head to suddenly have hair showing when I slip into a costume that adds a hat.

[TheMoneyMaker]

Not to mention characters who are intentionally bald being limited to what hats they can wear because suddenly they will have hair.

[TheMoneyMaker]

There are some hats that have no hair under them, like the Santa hat, making your character look suddenly bald if they choose to wear one.....and I'd like to see these bald-only hats be given a with-hair option that shows a little hair coming out from under somewhere.

[UltraAlt]

I was just thinking about this again, and, yes.

It would be great to have hats without hair.

 

If someone has the tools to edit the costumes, this shouldn't be that complicated as - I'm assuming - it only requires erasing/removing part of the costume part versus creating something new.

Just start with one body type first. I suggest male or huge as this hat issue is more likely to be utilized by one of those two than by female characters. 

Maybe narrow it down to trying it one or two of the hat styles that would more likely go with no hair ... whichever ones the person doing this would be interested in doing.

 

I can see adding hair to hats that are already without hair to be more of an issue/problem/time intensive.

 

The main problem seems to be the editing software to be able to create new parts or modify the existing costume parts (which may be much easier to do).

 

[Stormwalker]

  On 3/20/2025 at 10:44 AM, UltraAlt said:

I was just thinking about this again, and, yes.

It would be great to have hats without hair.

 

If someone has the tools to edit the costumes, this shouldn't be that complicated as - I'm assuming - it only requires erasing/removing part of the costume part versus creating something new.

Just start with one body type first. I suggest male or huge as this hat issue is more likely to be utilized by one of those two than by female characters. 

Maybe narrow it down to trying it one or two of the hat styles that would more likely go with no hair ... whichever ones the person doing this would be interested in doing.

 

I can see adding hair to hats that are already without hair to be more of an issue/problem/time intensive.

 

The main problem seems to be the editing software to be able to create new parts or modify the existing costume parts (which may be much easier to do).

 

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I can't speak for CoH as I've never worked with editing CoH models, but in other games I've modded, adding hair wouldn't be too difficult.  Probably only marginally more effort than removing it.

 

That said, CoH is old, and old tech always seems to complicate things.

[UltraAlt]

  On 3/21/2025 at 6:08 AM, Stormwalker said:

I can't speak for CoH as I've never worked with editing CoH models, but in other games I've modded, adding hair wouldn't be too difficult.  Probably only marginally more effort than removing it.

 

That said, CoH is old, and old tech always seems to complicate things.

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I have only done mods and animations on one other game.

In that game, it was easy enough to take away/alter, change textures, colors, patterns, add translucency, etc. but there were no tools to add to things that I could find. 

Animation was pretty freeform and did a fairly good job of doing inbetweens on its own.

[mechahamham]

  On 3/21/2025 at 8:36 AM, UltraAlt said:

I have only done mods and animations on one other game.

In that game, it was easy enough to take away/alter, change textures, colors, patterns, add translucency, etc. but there were no tools to add to things that I could find. 

Animation was pretty freeform and did a fairly good job of doing inbetweens on its own.

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There's always a spaghetti noodle touching some other important part of the game in CoH. Tweak hat models and we might find that Regen was taking some of its values from the hair geometry.