Posi in Spring Fling needs to talk ONLY to the mission holder

[Captain Fabulous]

Too many jackasses are griefing people and preventing them from getting the Down in Front badge by skipping the ceremony even after being asked not to.

It's happened at least a dozen times tonight on Excelsior. And since the logs don't note who did it there's no way to know.

[gameboy1234]

I think I've seen it happen once, probably on accident.  Still, not a terrible request.

[Doc_Scorpion]

I've seen it happen a couple of times, and I have a very hard time believing that something that takes two clicks is an accident.

[Rudra]

I've never seen it happen, but I agree anyway. If only because I know there are trolls out there that would do that. So consider me in full support of the OP. (Edit: Honestly, I'm surprised Posi' will talk to anyone not the mission holder. I didn't know he would/could.)

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:37 AM by Rudra

[tidge]

[Mystoc]

you can do this solo you know, if that's the last badge you need just do it pick wedding dialogue stand between them get teleported then leave. it takes maybe 30 seconds to do by yourself and zero fighting is required is basically an exploration badge (it's how I did it)

 

It's a good suggestion that makes sense, but the work around is simple as can be just drop the team.

 

Edited Wednesday at 02:53 PM by Mystoc

[Captain Fabulous]

13 minutes ago, Mystoc said:

you can do this solo you know, if that's the last badge you need just do it pick wedding dialogue stand between them get teleported then leave. it takes maybe 30 seconds to do by yourself and zero fighting is required is basically an exploration badge (it's how I did it)

 

It's a good suggestion that makes sense, but the work around is simple as can be just drop the team.

 

 

Yes, I'm aware that it's easy to get on your own, and I started doing that to avoid this issue. But it's an issue nonetheless. Any setup that allows trolls to easily grief other players should be fixed.

[Mystoc]

23 minutes ago, Captain Fabulous said:

 

Yes, I'm aware that it's easy to get on your own, and I started doing that to avoid this issue. But it's an issue nonetheless. Any setup that allows trolls to easily grief other players should be fixed.

 

I agree it should work the way you describe I just think it's a very low priority change. don't let trolls troll is a good principle to have but again the workaround to this is beyond simple, it's basically an exploration badge stand here talk to NPC get badge.

 

you can get this badge faster by yourself then it takes to even form a team, I'm not against the change you suggest just the urgency you're giving it hope that makes sense. 

 

Edited Wednesday at 03:31 PM by Mystoc

[Doc_Scorpion]

41 minutes ago, Mystoc said:

I'm not against the change you suggest just the urgency you're giving it hope that makes sense.

No, it makes less than zero sense - because the message I'm quoting is the very first mention of any sort regarding urgency.

It also misses the point that allowing griefers to talk to Posi can mess up teams of people, more than one of which might want the badge.

[Captain Fabulous]

11 minutes ago, Doc_Scorpion said:

It also misses the point that allowing griefers to talk to Posi can mess up teams of people, more than one of which might want the badge.

 

This part ^^^^

 

It also presumes the average player knows they can get that badge on their own and how to do it, and I'm fairly confident there are a lot who don't.

[Xion80]

Thanks for the heads up, I'll definitely be running it solo. Been a huge spike in disgruntled "WoW wackos" showing up on Excelsior. Had one as a Stone/Stone Tanker teleporting around a Carnie mission pulling as many Dark Ring Mistresses in an attempt to destroy the team before he left mid mission. We survived, but trolling has certanly spiked as of late.

Edited Wednesday at 04:54 PM by Xion80

[lemming]

I was on a team that was setup to do the Nemesis option and a person started the ceremony because they wanted the Down in Front badge.  (which kills the ability to do the Nemesis option for the mission holder)

 

At least the mission holder seems to be the only one that can do the Nemesis option.

 

It's a reasonable request to just have the mission holder able to start things off.  Since the dialogue box doesn't go away until you choose an option, it shouldn't hurt how people setup.

[Mystoc]

58 minutes ago, Doc_Scorpion said:

No, it makes less than zero sense - because the message I'm quoting is the very first mention of any sort regarding urgency.
It also misses the point that allowing griefers to talk to Posi can mess up teams of people, more than one of which might want the badge.

 

OP did not acknowledge in their post its easy and faster to do this solo and the teaming element and is actually way slower always you can have the badge solo in 30 seconds with zero fighting, only in their response to me was that stated.

 

OPs post

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Too many jackasses are griefing people and preventing them from getting the Down in Front badge by skipping the ceremony even after being asked not to.

It's happened at least a dozen times tonight on Excelsior. And since the logs don't note who did it there's no way to know.

 

 

I think if you are presenting a problem in a post you should also present the alternatives to solve said problem, so others get an idea of how urgent the problem is that was not done.

 

the way this is worded makes it sound like it's a badge you need to team to earn, and trolls are constantly preventing the badge from being obtained with no alternative. the real issue in my mind is many people are teaming up for a badge that is just way faster to get solo because they don't know any better.

 

Yes leaders should be the only ones to initiate mission choices I agree, but do wish OP informed others of how to solve the problem instead of just presenting the issue with no context.

 

 

Edited Wednesday at 05:11 PM by Mystoc

[shortguy on indom]

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[Captain Fabulous]

20 minutes ago, Mystoc said:

 

Yes leaders should be the only ones to initiate mission choices I agree, but do wish OP informed others of how to solve the problem instead of just presenting the issue with no context.

 

Yes, but this is a suggestion & feedback sub forum. I wasn't writing up a PSA or bug report with a workaround. This post is to suggest the devs change Posi's interaction due to player griefing.

 

I'm well aware you can do it on your own and that it's one way to avoid this issue, but that was not the point of this post.

 

It would be worth bringing this up in general discussion which I might do later today along with a few other general etiquette suggestions for this event.

[tidge]

The wedding event is trivially to start, and not at all difficult to finish... I'm surprised that this is that big of a deal. I've been on teams where people didn't know what they were doing, and things didn't go the way they expected,,, but if *I* missed something on some character, it is pretty easy to solo everything but the Nemesis option.

 

We recently had a couple of negative Nemesis spins, but ultimately those just became a waste of time. The misfires seem to com in two flavors:

1. The team lacks DPS, or certain team-members just aren't engaged with combat (lazy multi-boxers? who can say)
2. The team lolly gags and doesn't engage all the necessary enemies with enough time to defeat them.

I wasn't happy that we failed, but I didn't think it was a personal insult or griefing... just players being human.

 

In the cases I'm thinking of, we did warn folks what to expect, a best order of attack, and not to lay around dead when the hospital is a short hop from the mission door. We had one mission where someone summoned Lores, and put them on passive! We had another where a MM kamikazed the lower-ranked attendees, took a 4 minute dirt nap, finally zoned, and came back in and did not resummon henchmen.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

[Rudra]

4 minutes ago, tidge said:

The wedding event is trivially to start, and not at all difficult to finish... I'm surprised that this is that big of a deal. I've been on teams where people didn't know what they were doing, and things didn't go the way they expected,,, but if *I* missed something on some character, it is pretty easy to solo everything but the Nemesis option.

 

We recently had a couple of negative Nemesis spins, but ultimately those just became a waste of time. The misfires seem to com in two flavors:

1. The team lacks DPS, or certain team-members just aren't engaged with combat (lazy multi-boxers? who can say)
2. The team lolly gags and doesn't engage all the necessary enemies with enough time to defeat them.

I wasn't happy that we failed, but I didn't think it was a personal insult or griefing... just players being human.

 

In the cases I'm thinking of, we did warn folks what to expect, a best order of attack, and not to lay around dead when the hospital is a short hop from the mission door. We had one mission where someone summoned Lores, and put them on passive! We had another where a MM kamikazed the lower-ranked attendees, took a 4 minute dirt nap, finally zoned, and came back in and did not resummon henchmen.  ¯\_(ツ)_/¯

 

If you have a team member with Teleport Target (or ATT or Incan'), then just send the mission holder to start the Nemesis version while everyone else hangs back by the crystal. Teleport the leader back to the group and then pull targets to the group to clear. Not a lot of teams have the patience to do that, but I've found using that tactic keeps us with plenty of time on the clock, typically lets us prioritize targets to mow down first, and keeps the rest of the mobs from just jumping the team all at once. Doesn't take much DPS to clear that way, especially if you can yank Numina at the start and get her out of the way post-haste. Though nothing I just said will help if the team doesn't cooperate....

[tidge]

Only rarely have I ever seen the person starting the Nemesis version get into trouble. The MM kamikaze I was referring to was from a character asked to stand in the back, and it happened AFTER the talker had already returned to the back of the map. As noted above, pulling small groups is not a problem.