AI integration with NPC's would be interesting.

[gameboy1234]

On 4/26/2025 at 8:57 PM, Techwright said:

1.) Whatever was in the agreement between the Homecoming leaders and NCSoft.  If there are limits on how the game can be developed, this might not even be a possibility.

 

I think this would be the biggest hurdle.  Given the possibility of a "ChapGPT copied my content into your game" lawsuit, I think we'd have to stay far away from it.  And the second point you make, it'll take resources from other stuff, is spot on, lots of stuff I'd like to see the devs work on besides "idle chit chat with NPCs."

[Maelwys]

45 minutes ago, srmalloy said:

Why are you making denigrating comparisons about pigswill? I've abortively watched some YouTube videos that make pigswill look like Cordon Bleu

Fair point, even if a lot of swill ends up with more than one iteration through the pig.
(Warning: do NOT google "coprophagia" from your work computer.... although if a coworker is dumb enough to leave theirs unlocked, have at it!)  💩 🐽


^{((and yes, it was actually dumb enough to give the pig two sets of ears and no visible eyes by default))}
 

Edited Monday at 04:19 PM by Maelwys

[Andreah]

AI content can be useful with very careful guidance and bracketing -- the sort of work it takes thoughtful, knowledgeable, and practiced humans to perform effectively. Maybe someday it will be more, but I think a healthy dose of skepticism will carry the day, today.

[Scarlet Shocker]

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AI integration with NPC's would be interesting.

 

No!

 

No it would not.

 

It would almost certainly break our game. What we have works fine. We're very happy playing a game that's survived two decades even having faced some massive challenges.

 

AI is pretty well a bullshit con designed by robbing creators, throwing it into a virtual mixing pot  and stealing the good bits for the corporations to use against you. They serve you slop instead of a wage or recompense for the creators.

 

Either way AI is going to bite arses sooner rather than later. Just make sure it's not yours.

[Healix]

[Jacke]

 

On 5/1/2025 at 11:09 PM, Scarlet Shocker said:

 

[ Quote saying "AI integration with NPC's would be interesting." ]

No!

 

No it would not.

 

It would almost certainly break our game. What we have works fine. We're very happy playing a game that's survived two decades even having faced some massive challenges.

 

AI is pretty well a bullshit con designed by robbing creators, throwing it into a virtual mixing pot  and stealing the good bits for the corporations to use against you. They serve you slop instead of a wage or recompense for the creators.

 

Either way AI is going to bite arses sooner rather than later. Just make sure it's not yours.

 

 

Large Language Models have some good uses.  As AI, they're very limited in their legitimate applications.  I'm expecting the AI bubble to crash.

 

As @Scarlet Shocker says, trying to add them into a 25-year-old game is a good way to completely break the game.  Large Language Models likely have a server code base many times larger than City of Heroes, probably several orders of magnitude.  Mob AI needs to be as simple as possible, because so many mobs need to independently run some sort of AI to provide a useful opposition to Players.