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Hi all,

 

I'm not an Ice Armor expert (by any measure) but I thought the DDR for Defense sets was higher than what I'm seeing on my IA Tanks. Mine are coming in around 51% DDR. Does that seem right? Seems a bit low considering SD is ~68% then stacks up to 88%+ with Active Defense and SR is in the 90s (iirc), so ~50% on Ice seems woefully low. I've got all the primaries except Hibernate (and I'm hoping that's NOT the intended "solution"). Am I missing something? Let me know.

 

Thanks in advance.

Warboss 

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That's all there is, 17.3% each in Frozen Armor, Wet Ice and Glacial Armor (51.9% total). Stone gets the same values outside of Granite. Aside from a higher 77.9% base value, the reason SR gets so much more is that its DDR is affected by enhancements while Ice's and Stone's aren't. (Shield has 56.2% base with the DDR in Battle Agility affected by enhancements and that in Active Defense stackable.)

 

The "solution" I use is to build for defense in excess of the soft cap. If I've got 50% defense and get hit with a 10% debuff, ~5% will be resisted and the other ~5% will get through, but I'll still be left with 45% defense.

Posted (edited)

Not all armours are the same. Even amongst the defensive sets there are different strengths and strategies.

 

1 hour ago, Warboss said:

~50% on Ice seems woefully low.

 

While you get to have your opinion, the -dmg and -recharge plus -speed Ice Armor offers can result in less attacks hitting less often for less damage.

Learning how to lean into a characters strengths is part of the game.

 

 

Edited by Troo

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Posted (edited)

Ice Armor is great; you’ll be fine.

 

No, don’t bother taking Hibernate on a Tanker. I think the only powerset in the game where I feel like I actually have to justify getting all 9 powers is Scrapper/Brute/Tanker Bio Armor.

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19 hours ago, arcane said:

No, don’t bother taking Hibernate on a Tanker. I think the only powerset in the game where I feel like I actually have to justify getting all 9 powers is Scrapper/Brute/Tanker Bio Armor.

 

Agreed, the only time I take Hibernate is when I'm testing game mechanics. 

Edited by Warboss

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21 hours ago, Uun said:

That's all there is, 17.3% each in Frozen Armor, Wet Ice and Glacial Armor (51.9% total). Stone gets the same values outside of Granite. Aside from a higher 77.9% base value, the reason SR gets so much more is that its DDR is affected by enhancements while Ice's and Stone's aren't. (Shield has 56.2% base with the DDR in Battle Agility affected by enhancements and that in Active Defense stackable.)

 

The "solution" I use is to build for defense in excess of the soft cap. If I've got 50% defense and get hit with a 10% debuff, ~5% will be resisted and the other ~5% will get through, but I'll still be left with 45% defense.

 

Thanks for the post, I wasn't aware of the mechanics involved, it explains a lot. I follow a similar "solution" when building my Ice Tanks (was hoping I was just missing something ...).

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So... I've been doing some testing and I'm not seeing a major difference in the -Recharge from CE. How are you all slotting it?

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