How would you 'fix' Rage & Super Strength?

[Troo]

10 hours ago, bAss_ackwards said:

Whether it gets modified or not during the porting proccess, to that I say: Who doesn't love new toys and more ways to express the characters we make?

 

Well there are all those pesky players who have existing characters some of which might be favorite characters. Those players may not appreciate the modifications.

 

I am not one of them in this case, but have had characters pushed through the meat grinder of creative revamps.. some characters more than once.

I don't appreciate it.

It's not fun.

 

I do get what is being said, I'm just pointing out the flip side and current track record.

 

Edited July 11 by Troo

[Major_Decoy]

I think there should maybe also be "Smart Like Ox" which is a passive that increases damage but also has a 2 PPM chance of a mag 20 self-confuse.

 

Or that's a good fix for Rage. Instead of a damage penalty and a defense penalty, you get a 10 second mag 20 confuse effect.

Edited July 11 by Major_Decoy

[Erratic1]

5 hours ago, bAss_ackwards said:

Jessica Jones is a super strength scrapper.

 

But really, the better question for the topic (in general, not directed at you) isn't "Are Scrappers and Stalkers capable of super strength?" the better question for a video game would be "Would players have fun with it if it were ported over to scrappers and stalkers?" Whether it gets modified or not during the porting proccess, to that I say: Who doesn't love new toys and more ways to express the characters we make? 😄

 

There are a lot of things players would enjoy but which are not good for the game. The ability to just push a button and insta-defeat any one opponent, on even a one day recharge would is an exmaple. I feel power proliferation has been an overall negative for the melee classes and argued against for years. But at this point there is little left to proliferate--basically just Super Strength. So as I noted above, why not at this point, the damage is done.

[Troo]

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there's a couple left

 

Edited July 11 by Troo

[Placta]

On 7/7/2025 at 6:12 AM, arcane said:

The people that think they can seriously propose one full stack of perma Rage with no crash are funny.

 

The last time (that I'm aware of) they tried to fix Rage, this is more or less what they did: No crash if not stacked. It... well, you can read that thread to see why it didn't make it.

 

If a single-stack crashless toggle mutually exclusive option like Instant Healing/Reactive Regeneration is off the table, I'd remove the defense crash to put it back like it worked on Live and call it a day.