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Sorry but im gonna have to say no. No more concessions or trying to make people who aren't even going to use it happy. If you like knockback cool, go enjoy your knockback. I'm only interested in improving the experience for those who don't without dumb restrictions or concessions. Be it new sets that aren't gimped by a unique flag (unless its a global) just because they're KB>KD + Something else, Null flag, a START option, or even just making knockback better. IDC but this whole nitpicking and trying to limit options just because you like knockback is cringe and I'm done with it and anyone who suggests it Edit: you're not really a huge offender on my rant smalljoy, but my point still remains. No nerfing, no nonsense. Just give us better ways to not have KB.

This is pretty confusing to read, so it's melee AND 50's? Also, it's anecdotal and an assumption you're making based on personal experience. It doesn't make it a point of fact, seeing as I'm a blaster primarily and my issue is when knockback is used to knock things out of my patches, aoes, and especially my nuke. So you're wrong, again. It's insulting because you're trying to paint people in a specific image to discredit their complaints. I have said multiple times It's not about going fast, It's about a CC that is disruptive inherently unless you learn to use it, and far more players don't learn than do. Hence disruptive. So yes, I find it insulting, which as we've established is my opinion. You're not wrong, and i've said it in previous posts. This issue is very small-scale. It's not like every other team is being ruined, but an issue doesn't need to be end of the world level thread to be discussed. Yes it is an opinion, which you're about to figure out people can have differing opinions. Yep it is an opinion, that's how conversations like these happen. Nowhere do we say it's a fact that KB sucks and should be removed. It's why the suggestion tries specifically to ensure Knock back doesn't change for those who want it. Another back-handed insult, just to prove you're a hypocrite and another assumption that i am having these issues because i do not know how to use it. I do, i just don't like it. I'm glad you don't have a problem with knockback and enjoy it, which is why I'd like a solution that lets you keep it. As opposed to you who would rather everyone be forced to use it. Projection. Yes, you like to hide behind back-handed insults and then claim you're being attacked when someone doesn't like it. You're free to disagree with me, you're not free to be insulting and try to pretend people are trying to get rid of knockback when nobody is. They can yes, but you can't lie about other people and expect them not to reply. The fix is not good enough to many people. You are once again trying to say your opinion is better and it is a "waste of dev time" to go against it. I'm going to let you talk to you. There is no reason for us to keep going back and forth. I don't like you, we disagree, and i think you didn't read the thread, freaked out and knee-jerk reacted thinking people wanted to remove KB and now you're just defensive.

I didn't see him say he didn't insult anyone, just that he was leaving because they gave him a warning for it. He banned the homecoming forums from him.

"ask for sets" "no not globals" "not stats either, or it has to be unique"

I'd take more sets that offer it, but i'd like to see it in more damage based sets. It's not as ideal as a global or a null option for me, but i'd still take it.

That did happen, the ask was for a set that was global kb > kd and wouldn't you know it, pushback and no's all around.

Rudra, despite their own personal belief, does not speak on behalf of homecoming. The dev didn't say it cannot be done they basically said they'd rather improve in it other ways (5 years ago) They also used the bullying excuse, which I heavily disagree with as an angle.

This is literally what i mean by forum robot bullshit. Same old strawman, belittling replies just because they want to say no. It is correct though, there is no reason for this to continue.

No, this is a belittling attempt to make it look like a person is saying "oh wow i can't believe theres knockback!" No i'm saying KB sucks, dealing with it sucks, its a bad CC and i don't even think it should be a thing. However. Given that people enjoy it, removing it is not really an option. So you work to find a solution that works for everyone, now we've been over that this is a no go from the start given the 2nd post answered the suggestion already. So all of this is a big what if world pointless conversation. I take issue with there being a set that requires you to spend slots to counter-act a poorly designed form of CC if you don't want to deal with it. I think it could be better. But this is exactly my problem, this idea wouldn't hurt you or anyone else who likes KB but you're trying to find every excuse, backhanded insult and way to belittle someone you possibly can instead of DARING to let anyone else do something different from what you enjoy. You contribute actually fucking nothing to a conversation other than a no and a backhanded insult and then you get pissy if someone calls you out on it. I'm also completely uninterested in back and forthing with the lot of you, you just keep swapping out which forum robot says the same boring bullshit as the last one.

You know what? You're right, I think i can explain why i reacted negatively to your comment without calling you a hurtful name. You can safely ignore my previous reply i hid it myself. That's literally the suggestion. This is an insult, it's a baseless assumption that you're making to discredit people commenting for it, and insulting the poster who quite literally was trying to keep your desired playstyle in tact. This has been said repeatedly, this is not good enough. It feels like a punishment for just trying to play in a way that isn't viewed as disruptive to myself and others. You are literally trying to force people to adhere to your playstyle by shooting down an idea that would allow for you and the people who don't like KB to exist at the same time. Your alternative is to kick people from teams for not adhearing to your desired playstyle, and putting people on ignore in a small community and possibly exclude them from league teams you may run, holiday teams you may run or GM kills simply for their desired playstyle. To that i say, absolutely not. Calling people complainers is the same as saying someone is crying, maybe you should take your own advice and leave personal insults out of your comments if you don't want push back. (haha push back, get it?)

All this crying and you didn't even read the suggestion. It literally leaves knock back as is for people who like it

Sorry i misread, Minotaur in the Lab of fog talks some shit

Warn them back

DCUO does it, and it was actually pretty fun. Far easier to balance since it was only a handful of powers per select-able characters. I think it was called Legends PVP? Could be a fun gimmick for arena to get people to try it out. no stakes entry, mostly just a fun beat em up.

Gee if ONLY homecoming could figure out how to get someone to do work for free. What's the word for that again? Galaxy city tutorial