battlewraith

This one is causing family discord. My wife is hyped for this movie. I love Karl but....a martial arts movie at 53?

What you and other people are expressing is the mirror image to the OPs position. You don't want moderation stifling your expression. You don't want to follow somebody else's guidelines. If that happens, you won't post. People in this camp are framing this issue in terms of censorship. People on the other side are reacting to orthodoxy. As per Googley's instructions, I don't have to argue or defend my position. I just have to deal with pages of predictable demands that I do exactly that. And derision if I refuse. Just as you filter out what doesn't give you value, people outside the orthodoxy just stop posting in the suggestions forum. And it's not just a matter of providing proper feedback. There are other players who want dev time spent on their issues. Or they don't want people rocking the boat. Unless someone is just advocating a cosmetic or minor QOL change, I don't see suggestions passing muster or being impactful in any way. If someone new came to the forums and asked my advice on posting a suggestion, I'd tell them that the most reasonable thing to do is not bother. I'm not seeing any evidence to the contrary. So why does the charade have to be so tedious?

It looks good against a simple background. The problem is that when you put those textures and colors against a background and other characters that are similarly shaded, it's just too garish. It grates on the eye. The face is hilarious but at the same time there is something oddly compelling about those eyes boring into my soul. Also looks like he might be whistling, so maybe the sound effects pull the whole thing together like the Big Lebowski's rug.

I'd like to see an example of a thread in the suggestions forum that was a success. Someone showed up with a full blown feasibility study of an idea, it survived the review of the forum regulars that hang out here, and then it went on to be somehow implemented in the game. Looking at the success rate of posts , imo, says a lot about the legitimacy of this "process".

He wasn't talking about something happening next year. He mentioned a decision that has been made now.

Why would he have needed to see it to think that is noteworthy?

The context was me explaining to Ukase, who takes pains to communicate clearly, why someone would use an emoji rather than just saying the intended meaning. To him, I suspect there's an expectation of clarity. To me the emoji is "just signaling" in the same way that someone might shrug rather than answering a question directly. It's trading less effort for more ambiguity, assuming that it isn't some form of trolling or evasiveness. Somehow this has mutated into me infringing on people's rights to bear emojis. Sweet baby Jesus why are there so many people stamping their feet about what they are allowed or have the right to do?

Well it looks like you're allowed to do your thing. But based on what Googly just said it looks like people are free to completely ignore your input and they aren't required to mount a defense to anything you say. So I guess the challenge is just to be excellent about it.

The gist of complaints like this are that there is a dynamic that makes it not fun. There is a subset of players that bring very restrictive expectations to the table. They are toxic to ideation. The perfect is the enemy of the good.

Which is why I specified:

Why even have it then? Don't let players come on to the forums and get burned when they ask for something when it's unlikely that anything discussed there will happen.

This is why the whole setup is ridiculous. It's misses the point of why you would want feedback. People want things. A bunch of people may want an expression of some general idea. So they make a proposal. Then you have a cadre of people who take it upon themselves to find the flaws in the proposal and reject it. These same people have, as you pointed out, no interest or obligation in actually working on the suggestion. They are purely negative--for good reason. There is a conflict of interest. They want their goodies implemented, not someone else's. Not to mention the fun of crapping on other people's ideas (the comparison to a dysfunctional office environment is amusing). There might be thousands of people who would be interested in some type of change, but can't get any traction because a specific proposal can't get past the imaginary office workers.

The extent to which it's a problem varies. The expectation that someone here will understand what I'm saying expressed as English language in alphanumeric characters is vastly greater than through emojis. But, hey, I'm always willing to learn. Maybe you can render this statement "The extent to which it's a problem varies." in forum emojis for me. Those are the two types of expression between which I was drawing a distinction.

Sure, if you want to be pedantic about it. I'm drawing a distinction between actually using language to express a specific meaning and flashing a symbol, which may or may not be meaningful to the recipient.

There would be more merit in that imo. What we have right now is a miniscule subset of the population that weigh in on what they want and what they think the devs want. The mere fact that a suggestion basically has to conform to some sort of feasibility study is a big deterrent to actually making any sort of suggestion. Which I think people here implicitly get--the point for them is to reject things that can't be implemented easily or that they don't want (ie the dozen or so that probably regularly do this). That defeats the point of having a suggestion forum. Do the opposite. Encourage people to drop ideas. No matter how crazy or impractical. Use that as data to determine trends that are reflective of the types of things in which the larger playerbase is interested. Stop fixating on individual proposals that people find fault in and then just summarily dismiss--wasting the feedback and making people far less likely to tell you want they want.

No , you're the one who can't handle disagreement without attacking someone over it. You're literally doing exactly what you described.

Which sounds exactly like what someone who "can't handle disagreement without losing their shit" would say.

I think this thread itself is a trap to get geriatrics to out themselves....by saying cursed words like Howdy Doody.

I don't think so. I think the actual function of the suggestions forum is to discourage people from making suggestions. There is a small cohort of players who reside there to shut the majority of ideas down. Then there is no apparent connection between anything discussed there and actual development. There is also no clear indication of whether anyone that actually matters would read that stuff on the website or in Discord. I think the honest thing to do would be to spare players who have something to say a bad experience. Get rid of that subforum altogether and instruct players who want to have more input on development to get involved in Closed Beta discussions.

I heard that Nicholas Hoult also auditioned for Superman. Now I am truly saddened at the loss of what could have been. Nicholas Hoult as Lex Luthor AND Superman. Maybe even Hoult as Lex, Superman, and Lois. It could've been this generation's Dr. Strangelove.

Because they aren't communication, they're just signaling. Like when you watch a reaction video and people drop in memes as a lazy shorthand to indicate that something's funny, stupid, boring, whatever.

The majority of confused emojis I've received are from the same person. As tempting as it is to imagine they have some sort of mental impairment, I take it to mean that they are signaling that you're opinion is bizarre, not that it's actually confusing. https://tenor.com/bgt2J.gif

You realize that this is already an option right? For the purposes of pvp you can instantly make a lvl 50 and just pick up the accolades that are relevant to pvp. This is implemented in a way that supports the minigame without inflicting pvp concerns on to non-pvpers. People have pointed out that that the reward structure for the game is content. And there is a basic incredulity in response to the idea of making something freely available. But the fact that it's content doesn't make it a good thing, any more than content on the internet is inherently a good thing. The activities under scrutiny are compulsion loops: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compulsion_loop Obviously these loops are a feature of most rpgs, to the extent that somebody's going to say (again) just go do something else. The reason to stay is the game as a platform for creativity, problem solving, community, nostalgia, and so on. These are the things that set the game apart for me, not killing stuff and getting rewarded for it. I suspect I'm not alone in this. So it's not unreasonable to advocate for some way to diminish that aspect while still following your passion, whatever it is. Is that solution making everything free--most likely no. But you have to plant a flag somewhere to start things off. Even if you know there will be a stampede to rip it out of the ground.

Time The forums are a flat circle.

That might be the case, but it still seems to me to be misleading. Your friends might be in the majority in terms their playing habits. But if you look at a metric like hours spent playing, the bulk of those casual players might represent a minority of the player time actually spent ingame.