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Btw.

I think you need to look again cause you are there already my friend.

Not all judgement powers are the same though, for instance I choose mighty on most of my tanks for the KU effect. It's no where the most powerful, honestly it's probably void because of the -dmg effect. But either way if you are popping a judgement on lvl 54 incarnate minions it won't get them all. There wouldn't be much point in even having a power that took that long to recharge because I normally take those powers for the looks and feel of it anyway. I would likely forget I had it. lol If you could use them in all exemplared content I would agree more with you, but it's for top level stuff, not so much radio missions but even maria Jenkins and top level contacts have hard enough content to not nerf them. I've never had an issue with judgements doing any more than having 2 nuke happy blasters on the team. That clears way faster than a judgement will.

Why yes... Yes I am.

Crazy stuff like shadow shard GM and AV, jade spider, maybe even Battallion stuff.

Maturity? lol your throwing your language around in attacks demonstrates your level of intelligence to me. In fact you seem very bitter, perhaps gaming shouldn't be your top priority. I am an essential employee actually, worked every day of this in real life without an ounce of fear. But honestly I dont need your respect or want it. I gain peoples respect by being a leader in real life and in the game. Being a leader is more about being a servant, thats the secret, and I'll gladly continue doing it both in reality and in my second reality here. Life is more than this game, but in this game ive helped people through real life problems too. Because I do care about everyone that has crossed paths with me. And its a super hero game, arent we all suffering from dellusions of grandeur? Hell if you arent you are missing the boat partner.

yes there is, you may need to check your lazy meter to see if you havent sought it out hard enough.

I'm not the one that has to take anything, burden of proof is on you nerfherders. I have fun every night. So does everyone I know. Not to mention you are the only one throwing the damn this damn that daggers my way. Thats you partner. And thats after most of us took issue with your idiotic auggestions to nerf set bonuses to make 100% of our builds irrelevant. You think you wont get a reaction taking issue with that? You need to look up moron in the dictionary if you think otherwise. Could certain things be tweaked better for our liking? Sure but not sweeping a years worth of building under the rug so someone in the minority can feel better - also when it's not a valid concern with tons of options to attain what the concern is in the first place. And you better expect a harsh reaction when you damn my motivations when 1 you don't know me and 2 You don't know how many people I have helped and continue to try to help to build past perceived limitations, or just to help people with ordinary content. I have fun by being the best I can be - min maxing and helping others in a variety of ways and leading them on hard content. I've probably only missed 7 days since last may for various reasons, and also probably have one of the most knowledgeable and laid back/friendly SGs on Excelsior. All you are doing is advocating throwing excellence out the window creating a community of co dependence that requires certain builds just to keep moving forward. Hard pass, no thank you, and don't let the door hit you.

Thats All wonderful... I like it.

And that equates to too much trouble for a zero sum gain to a problem that is more percieved by a minority than an actuality for the majority.

You took the time to make this thread, complete with complaints and polls.

So basically you are saying I'm not allowed to have fun if having fun is min maxing? Your whole diarretic blob above that said nothing against what I was trying to say for casual players and helping them. Basically any AT can be made to be good, and if someone wants to learn that me and my group teach them. But its not required, I have people that are fine not being OP and they play with us often, and dont mind the majority of us being built to the 9s. Some people do want to learn and it end up being a fun part of the game for them - as I said it is a mini game. It hs nothing to do with power creep, those same builds get tested in conditions like the ones that have the resistance and incarnate level content. How do I know this because I tried tanking the nightstar mission with my decked out elec storm troller and mob 1 was a team wipe with me first - they overwhelmed my defenses so fast i couldnt react. With a tank that wouldnt have happened, unless they werent built right. There just needs to be more content like this. So no just because there can be any AT at the soft cap doesnt mean that is against the game design or power creep, and boy inside could have used a bubbler on that mission. And seriously take your be damned comment and stow that somewhere, you can ask anyone that knows me in game, I will bleed my life force dry to help someone in game if I can. You are way off on that. I described what is fun for me, and there isnt a thing wrong with that. If anything you are in the minority here and trying to be an authoritarian for telling everyone else how you think the game should be played.

There's a difference between being needed and being useful. I would never exclude you from my team because you were a FF based toon. But on the same token myself included - there are no essentials on my teams other than being present and accounted for. At that point it's up to the user to have fun. But nothing is needed - everything is useful. /\ that's why there is no Trinity here, and people that are seeking out certain classes are likely only doing so for speed runs or badge runs, but nothing to do with a FF being useful in the grand scheme of things. 70% of my main most fun characters were not on that guys wish list btw, and thats ok. I still had fun even though I didn't meet that guys prereq.

I agree it needs animation changes, but disagree hard that it needs SJ animations. They just don't fit what the set did/claims to do.

oh just stop, you arent robin hood. Min max builds arent the problem, you dont have to use a min maxed build or play with anyone min maxed if you dont want to. Dont penalize those of us that min max everything because our OCD will not tolerate anything other than that. Thats the mini game within a game for me to see how OP i can make something. I guarantee you though nerfing set bonuses will kill homecoming if you go that route because how do you think the reaction will be if all the sudden several hundred millions inf of enhancements suddenly stopped working in peoples builds just so people like you can feel better about yourself? At least now you have the option to min max and be super, instead of just average which is what a set bonus nerf would do for 100% of the options available to make a build Super powered. If people are ok being average there is nothing wrong with that, just like there is nothing wrong with maxing out your defense, resistance, or whatever it takes so you dont have to worry about faceplanting. Even with these Super powered builds you can still encounter issues, especially with enemies with defense debuffs, even with ageless this gets through sometimes and if you dont have a tank its going to be hard to stay afloat under these circumstances. All you are suggesting is reinstall the grind to a game the majority does not want to grind with - when there are options currently available to achieve this grind in ORO, or limiting your build choice if you desire the grind that bad. just stop with that.

Agree 100% with everything. I took a break myself after the change because it ruined my favorite and main thing i loved about the game. I only had 3 lvl 50s at the time including the Invul EM tank i mained. I literally had all my eggs in one basket and they dumped them all out on the sidewalk with that change. I left the game for about 2 years. Came back in time to get to love the game again and try new ATs - to me - only to have the game shutter on us. That change was definately the worse nerf ever put on a melee set, i wouldnt say worse ever because cough regen cough. lol

This is true, i finish filling the teams with pugs sometimes and they often complain that I run mostly on +4 but even +2 sometimes, and a catch 22 some don't like it when we kill most and some don't like it when we soft speed run. I've had people quit before even with me trying to hang back to help them through - and not listening to instruction on how to follow me through. Majority of the player base is casual. I try to recruit that often and help them keep the casual mindset - which I also have - but build to the 9s. Because at the end of the day this is to unwind, let off steam and shouldn't feel like a second job.

Look, I'm a longtime EM purist. And the pom poms of death is how we know it. You can argue all you want but glowing energy fists is how it's known and how we all loved it. And yeah if you go back and think about it - ET - your arm surged forward not really a punch like a melee punch but more like a swift touch of death maneuver, and for a brief moment it hung and glowed but all very fast. It was a super swift transfer of energy that destroyed whatever it impacted. It wasn't a shoryukin uppercut from street fighter - that will never fit with the memory of ET. Sorry, hard pass. Again... That's SJ 2.0 Whirling hands is a beautiful attack, not the most powerful, so is spinning strike - but each has its place and there shouldn't be any crossover. You can give SJ glowing fist auras if that's all you are looking for honestly, but it doesn't nor ever will fit with classic EM.

Crushing uppercut is a brawler strike it doesnt look like you are transferring anything. Not to mention the power is in your hands not your feet - thats why spinning strike wouldn't work. If you did that you may as well call it SJ 2.0

Those animations don't fit the set, I agree with front loading ETs damage and shortening the animation but the old animation was perfect for it. Its basically chain inductions animation now from elec melee. It should be a simple fix to try just port over the animation from Elec melees chain induction.

If they just decreased DCs recharge slightly and put it more in line with shield charge recharge that would be all the set needed, maybe a slight increase in DCs damage but not much if any. Itsngood either way - speaking from a tank perspective.

Yeah not completely the same though, if its a defense based tank or even a hybrid like shield, that troller will not hold up mob for mob like the tank will due to the tank having DDR more HP, regen, resistance, etc. Its just not the same. Controller has to work to survive and can do it well where the tank can just sit there and do nothing. A controller can just sit in the middle of a mob of Incarnate level enemies and just survive without spamming and layering its controls - eventually the enemy will break through where on the tank it probably never would if the tank is built like a tank should be built.

Shouldnt exist? Thats your opinion, and not really based on anything but your preference. It only exists at lvl 50+ its not like you can attain it from level 1-50 because it has to be catalyzed to Superior to even get that high. And again at that point you are still investing time to level up to 50, influence of either 180 million and still 600 merits +6 catalysts to get the 10 % that you can only use post 50. Scrappers and Brutes? yeah why on earth would you want to gimp the set and miss out on the full bonus just for another 5%, thats insane in my opinion so again, yeah there is a cost to do that, and if someone wanted to do that it isnt free by any standard. Superior Avalanche 15% Slow Res 6% Fire/Cold Res 10% Mez Res 4% Recovery 5% Melee Def 2.5% Lethal/Smash Def 5% Fire/Cold Def 2.5% AoE Def Superior Blistering Cold 15% Slow Res 4% Recovery 6% Fire/Cold Res 10% Mez Res 5% Lethal/Smash Def 2.5% Melee Def 5% Fire/Cold Def 2.5% AoE Def Superior Winter's Bite 6% Fire/Cold Res 10% Mez Res 15% Slow Res 4% Recovery 5% Pos/Neg Def 2.5% Ranged Def 5% Fire/Cold Def 2.5% AoE Def Superior Frozen Blast 15% Slow Res 6% Fire/Cold Res 10% Mez Res 4% Recovery 5% AoE Def 2.5% Fire/Cold Def 5% Fire/Cold Def 2.5% AoE Def Superior Brute's Fury 3% Health 5% Smash/Lethal Def 2.5% Melee Def 4% Damage 10% Recharge Time 6% Smash/Lethal Res 10 Mez Res Superior Unrelenting Fury 4% Damage 16% Regeneration 4% Recovery 5% Melee Def 2.5% Smash/Lethal Def 6% Smash/Lethal/Pos/Neg/Fire/Cold Res 30% Mez Res Superior Critical Strikes 4% Recovery 15% Accuracy 5% AoE Def 2.5% Fire/Cold Def 4% Damage 10% Recharge Time Superior Scrapper's Strike 3% Health 5% Smash/Lethal Def 2.5% Melee Def 4% Damage 10% Recharge Time 6% Smash/Lethal Res 10% Mez Res I didnt post them all just a small variety, but as you can see theres not enough overlap to be critical of them being overused or not unique. At most you can have both ATO sets and Maybe 3 WInter sets if you are shrewd on your slotting and power selection, but usually on my builds I have 2 ATOs and 2 Winters and thats hardly abusing 4 5% bonuses, not to mention the ones that matter most are the vectored defense bonuses and some of them are only 2.5 % which in my opinion if you look at it objectively is pretty good design because giving a larger bonus to typed vs vectored isnt overpowering any one type. The only types that are consistent across all winter sets are fire and cold defense at 5%, which big whoop cold is the least common damage type in the game, and fire so what, unless you are demon or fire farming. again, you cant use any of these until level 50+ anyway and they cost a small fortune to slot out like this even just for 2 winters and 2 ATO sets thats pushing a 300 mil build to 800 million at least.

OR..... Rolling another character, whether it be for theme, challenge, or just because.

If you are talking about ATO and Winter set bonuses it REQUIRES you to 5 or 6 slot them to attain. And you can only use that particular bonus once. You are talking at minimum of 180 million on purple winter sets if purchased outright in the AH, or 600 merits +6 enhancement catalysts. Thats a sizeable investment in time and influence for just one bonus. Its much more easy to pick a power than slot this, especially for newest players. Now if you could slot more than one type of the same set I would agree with you, but you can't, they are unique. Different vectors of attacks have different set trees though so that isnt unfair to duplicate at that point with another 180 mil or 600merit +6catalyst set.