Sunsette

Just noticed this today, don't usually play these at higher notoriety. Per friends, it seems to happen on Twinshot as well. This console normally spawns alone.

That's the point of the question. Spawning outside causes more chances for this failure to occur. Anyway, spawn points are definitely broken on the Mayhem Missions of all sizes. Did several hours of testing today, on three different occasions at Notoriety x1 I got attacked by enemies that were clipped inside of buildings and fully non-visible. In all cases these were the enemies tied to the sidequests in the map.

I'm noticing the same issues. Spawn size seems to make the problem worse, though it's been a problem at every notoriety level I've tried.

I'm envisioning something similar to a danger room or CO's power houses: an instanced area with training dummies. Upon entering the instanced room, all of your cooldowns are immediately finished, and there would be a switch inside that you could click to reset those cooldowns again. After exiting the room by any means, all of your cooldowns are immediately set to maximum duration again, as if via switching builds. The old respec trial contacts would make logical 'mission doors' for this. Idea brought to you by spending 30 minutes trying to test the specifics of a silent ability which reports nothing in the combat log and has a base 90 second cooldown.

Because people will immediately poll in many cases to find who the holdout is. That means people will either get in a habit of lying (unlikely) or just feel pressure to not be the "troublemaker" Believe me, I hate seeing most of these cutscenes, especially the one right before rommy in the ITF and the ones at the start of BAF and Magisterium. I just don't think a toggle like this is going to be productive on the whole, just hope future TFs have better level design and cutscenes usage. I think LGTF and ASF handle these issues better than some of the earlier stuff.

I feel like that is going to immediately lead to "not it" "not it" "Oh i wanted to watch them" "WHY WOULD YOU DO THAT" scenarios Because that's exactly the way it goes in SWTOR when one person is engaging in a plot conversation and everyone else is skipping everything Most MMOs try to put their cutscenes at natural break points, including after the final boss, to minimize this -- this is something that CoH didn't really have time to figure before shutdown.

That's an interesting idea i would need to think about, Jacke. (I have substituted Finland in lieu of a thonk emoji, given our limited reaction options.) There aren't a lot of immediately equivalent situations in other games to draw from, but the closest I can think of (reagent party buffs) was a largely positive mechanic I think.

I understand that perspective. But in my ideal City, many more players would feel encouraged -- not obligated, no treadmills, please -- to engage with more challenging content than they do right now, and doing that without removing or worsening the existing easy content will be an involved process that requires consideration on many points. We'll never ever reach majority adoption, of course, that's not in the cards for any game. But I want to make as nice a ramp as possible.

It is minor but it would assist with the fact that there is insufficient player income without the AH to keep your enhancements relevant, while quest arcs are expected to be the best way of gearing for a low level character in many games. I think this is a good proposal that would improve the new player experience.

If it's team level, which it most likely would have to be in order for it to work at all, this would essentially prevent newbies from ever seeing the cutscenes at all. In SWTOR, anyone who bothers to watch a flashpoint cutscene has often been at serious risk of verbal abuse and being called a troll for watching it. I don't know if that's still true in the community today but it was a big problem a few years ago.

I don't care about the power creep, personally. They're in the game already, the top level can get them if they want to spend the time. I'm uncomfortable with the idea because we keep adding harder content to this game (which I like!) and this could conceivably create a situation where there's a community expectation of "raid buffs" for anything semi difficult. And not everyone has a supergroup. I like keeping a lot of my characters out of one, I only built my first base last month. I almost never use the zone portal SGs. I'm sympathetic to the convenience argument but I've seen this sort of thing landslide in other games before. When a powerful buff becomes convenient to maintain and there's content that isn't completely trivial, community metas adjust. I've been reluctant to say anything because I like most of the proponents of this change, and this is already a very negative board. But I don't really like this idea, not as it is. I'm open to discussion about how it could be improved, if possible, to address concerns. I don't like the idea of increasing costs because that actually deepens issues along those lines: another, more expensive, expected but obscured element of player power. We have so many of those already.

Blaster has an exciting inherent that works for their playstyle: limited ability to ignore mez, which means they're one of the very few ATs that cares about mez resistance stats without mez protection (which is basically immunity in most cases), and it makes handling mez more interesting than "mezzed, break free." I actually consider what my response to a mez will be on a case by case basis. It also adds unique value to what are usually three of the weakest powers they have and can make continuing to keep at least two of them feel valuable. An interesting inherent used to be true of all the red-side ATs; it is no longer true for Brutes. It is not true for any of blue-side AT inherents other than blasters, which are all passives which may constrain build choice but don't affect active play very much. Blaster also has two active powersets that do similar but different things, so two blasters can look and play very differently based on how their primary and secondary synergize and compete with each other. Until you get to the hardest content in the game, this isn't really true for melee armorset ATs; most defensive sets are passive and in most content play will look the same. Even the most active defensive sets like bio are primarily toggles, and as you get higher level, you usually settle in a single adaptation mode with bio -- at most, two. And frankly, bio is only *slightly* weirder than a blaster secondary, blaster secondaries are extremely weird and have a wide variety of things they do. Finally, Blasters are strong at soloing (what a sentence compared to launch) without doing anything weird. They're not the strongest, but you don't need to do trippy things to make them able to survive on their own under normal play in a limited circumstance -- and then if you DO trippy things, you get rewarded for it. They can scale up to content if you can build and play to that content; they are not always married to a team despite benefitting from one. This is a definite weakness on controller and defender when looked at over the whole game, despite the number of interesting interactions their powerset combos offer. Strong solo troller or defender builds are almost always the result of dedicated study and knowledge by a player, be that experience or instruction. They're anomalous rather than the default experience. Dom struggles in this respect out of the redside ATs for the first half of the leveling curve, but it makes up for it with a vengeance and I'd say it's much more part of the standard Dom experience.

Per City of Data, range is a disallowed strength on judgements but range is an allowed enhancement for the Cryonic and Vorpal Judgement trees. This unique interaction causes the detailed information to list the effects of an alpha slot that enhances range (such as Intuition) but in actual play, there is no such range enhancement.

I think this is a great bit of feedback. Your solutions are both comprehensive and well-explained, and take into account both the concept and training the instincts of players. From a meta standpoint, I am a little leery of -res (the fact that it keeps being used as a solution can become a compounding problem of its own) but it's hard to think of other answers that navigate as many concerns about the set successfully. I certainly don't have a better one, and I think this would make a great cornerstone for any dev looks at the subject matter.

I personally dislike lore pets as well as barrier and I'm not a *huge* fan of judgement, but I don't like the "restrict these outside of incarnate content" suggestions because very little interferes with my perception that my character has grown stronger than "you may only use these abilities at approved times". Incarnate shifts are tolerable because they have always only pertained to your performance within incarnate trials and are basically a hard gear check and nothing else. I mean, jeez, when am I gonna appreciate the fact that I can teleport-kick a few dozen people if not solo? Because it's sure not going to be in the middle of a busy eight-person Advanced Mode Taskforce where I've got my mind everywhere but how pretty my abilities are and in fact I probably should be turning particles off. WoW has gone heavy on this concept (by causing enemies in current content to first scale with your level and now scale with your gear) and sure, I don't really *need* to be able to outscale random enemies as part of my daily content but it also meant I increasingly treated the game as a lobby game rather than a roleplaying game. It's a pretty good lobby game these days, I really have enjoyed the last few seasons of M+, but it's not a game I like to passively exist in as much as I used to. And personally speaking, I do not really feel outcompeted with by judgment except on content that's so easy I could probably comfortably solo, duo, or trio it with the right people. My opinions in these matters frequently boil down to: your desire is reasonable, but is it worth transforming the game as it exists with its current install base to cater to that? Most of the answers I see tell me that it is not.

Trenchcoat has a special shoulder item that is also called Bow Tie with a different model, separate from the Bow Tie chest detail item available to most tops. If it could be enabled for all tops as a shoulder item, that'd be appreciated. Thanks.

Reasonable theory, but it's not the result of vengeance. I make a point of letting vengeance wear off on groups when I'm trying to sneak. I don't team often for content outside of taskforces and trials, and it'll just.... happen randomly that on some maps I need to be on guard against the Tirailleurs. (This variable *does* seem to be largely a map-based phenomenon, and I think it might be tied to a specific variant of the Tirailleurs, but it's difficult for me to read the entity data on CoD2). I've noticed this behavior in the months I've been back in game across old content. It was something of an interesting pain and is actually part of why I wished there was more depth to the stealth system of this game. In other MMO games, you can see the perception radius of enemies with heightened sight and you can use a variety of movement, CC, and perception tools to navigate these; high risk/reward.

In an ideal world, Blast sets would probably be designed very differently. However, I am not convinced that any attempt to bring nukes in line after we've had them like this for five years would be constructive or pleasant rather than disruptive, and I very specifically dislike your proposal, sorry. Every single powerset is bespoke (positive) or inconsistent (negative) to some degree and this would completely shake up every single blast powerset such that you'd need to look at them in totality all over again.

The Tirailleurs in Nemesis (which are by far the most common sniper group found in mission maps) do frequently but not consistently see me farther than I think they should on my Stalker who runs both Hide and a Stealth IO, I can verify this -- it happens at roughly 60 feet, I believe. I haven't looked into why. Sometimes I can get right up to melee range with them no problem and assassinate, sometimes it triggers at 60. Sometimes a character with no StealthRadius increases beyond the Unique IOs is able to deal with them at normal range. I'm not sure what's going on there precisely.

No, I am very directly saying that the -Res would stay in Distract. I chose the wording of 'enhance' specifically; I am sorry that my initial wording was not sufficiently clear for you, but my follow-ups have been clear that I have no interest in putting -Res in a travel power, and no interest in removing it from Misdirection. -Res is the current lynchpin of that power. I do not personally find your argument against a Confuse power having -Res to be compelling. Stealth runs are not concerned with the idea of experience lost, and this would be a deep power in the concealment tree. I do not think it is an unreasonable argument, and it is something that anyone who reads this suggestion should consider, but I don't think it is a strong one. Point of clarification: pop-up travel powers are not slottable. As it currently stands, and I already agreed, this proposal would result in the loss of the ability to use placate sets. I'm not going to repeat myself on other points further. I do concede that the out-of-combat defense portion for Stealth is larger than I recalled, and I'm not married to changes to the Stealth power at this time.

Well, it is a good thing then that I have made a topic in which I would like to explore how the concealment pool can be changed to increase the depth of non-combat stealth play! 🙂 Minor is not the same as non-existent, and Hide was used as a comparative that has a much better version of the stealth bonus. And Stealth is the topic at hand. I am not here dumping on the Hide power as being weak. What you have described is a minor benefit. One that I enjoy. And one that Stealth is not comparable with. Last post on this from me.

Let me ask you something, Rudra: How often do you, on your stalkers, encounter situations where there is AoE damage on your way to something you want to maintain the hidden state for and the only or best way for you to bypass it is to take a direct line through the AoE damage where you have, at minimum, a 5% chance of getting struck and losing that state. Because I think that's happened to me maybe twice? I usually have a better option for it. It's nice to have, but yes, it is minor. I get more (yet still not tons!) of value from the Hide state appearing mid-combat for whatever reason, like getting held or something and then porting back to catch up with the fight. And yet (to return to topicality) it is still far more significant than a value a tenth of that.

When that huge number is only active when you are not currently in combat... yes, it is only a minor convenience. I'm confused what you're objecting to here, honestly; within context, I wasn't saying "Hide is weak", I was pointing out that an out of combat defense buff is not much consideration in most purposes, especially as small of one as Stealth's or Infiltration's. Those extra values only matter for the very small scenario in which you are still in the hidden state but someone is attacking you, a situation which usually lasts a few seconds tops. It can be nice (but still quite risky and situational) on Stalkers for running through area damage on your way to something else.

I did not say: give the travel power version -res. I am saying: give a travel power a placate similar to misdirection, with a lower cooldown as it cannot be enhanced, and turn misdirection from a placate to a targeted confuse, but with identical radius and cooldown currently. I did not even directly reference misdirection when discussing the travel power tray in the original suggestion for a reason, precisely because I am aware the -res component is the significant purpose of the misdirection power as it presently exists, outside of muling. Yes, placate sets in there would be lost and placate sets are pretty strong as mules, so that would get lost. Sure, I can concede that. I'm also aware that my suggestion is on the strong side and likely needs whittling; the loss of being able to slot a full placate set isn't meaningfully going to amount to a net nerf, though it would certainly nerf some builds. Toss the confuse? Yeah, I can see that being reasonable, though I'd want more time to think through the ideas at the brainstorming stage. Regardless of confuse staying or going, I'm not really interested in hashing out specific numbers in the course of this thread, which is why I was vague about whatever more would need to be given to Stealth within this context. (And doubling a minor level of defense when you're out of combat is not a meaningful amount of value. The very large AoE defense granted by Stalker Hide is considered a minor convenience.) Added depth requires both player systems and level design, yes. This is not a point of disagreement. The devs are already frequently and actively engaging with player unintentional skips in the new content they've added and which I have given feedback on separately. There's a negotiation present in what's good emergent gameplay and what's not and it'll be a while before we see full development, but I have every confidence that if nothing else, they do look to see how players can use existing tools in more meaningful ways.

Then read it again, please. I *like* stealth. I want there to be more mechanical depth and reward to stealth. I want to feel a sharper difference between my characters which invest in stealth and those that do not, the way that I feel sharp differences between those that invest in the other travel pool powers. And I want the benefits for going deep into concealment to pertain primarily to acting in a concealed way. I want to be able to specialize beyond "Stalker has the Hide power." City of Heroes is the only MMO in which one of my mains has never been a stealthy character (although I play and enjoy Stalker) because there's not much to the stealth component. If I'm determined, fast, and durable enough I can brute-force a skip on a non-stealthy character with just a single IO. Have you ever experienced the joy of sneaking through a dungeon designed for 5 max level characters with a buddy and using everything in your arsenal to make it to all the treasure chests and a few key minibosses? Cuz that was *fun*. I don't think we can bring that into City, but I think we can borrow a few elements towards it.