Fire/storm rocks.

[Neogumbercules]

OK so super late to the party here but... I never played storm much on Live (which is weird considering the coalition I ran with had an all storm supergroup).

 

Omg it's so good. Even just using freezing rain every spawn I feel like I'm making a huge contribution. Of course we all know how good Bonfire is slotted for KD, and I just hit level 26 and slotted it. 

 

It's total lock down for every spawn we come across. 

 

It also happens to be an amazing farmer. I've been running -1/8 since like level 8 (right after my first DFB) and it's great. Now that I have Bonfire I'm melting spawns and they can't touch me. Cannot wait for tornado. 

 

Any unique slotting options I can take advantage of? 

[Radiaria]

Awesome! I believe I posted this suggestion for it's wonderful synergy! You can also take advantage of thunder clap and combine this with flashfire so that it can even stun bosses. It also grants great immobs that protect against enemies running away from you and because of storm it offers excellent damage. I hope you enjoy this!

[VV]

Slot Tornado for KD and Def Debuff. Helps you melt (literally) everything.

[Zep]

I also like to put devastation in Lightning Storm complete with the chance to hold.

 

Chance to immob in flashfire.

 

Chance to hold in Fire Cages. 

 

And many more depending on build specifics. 

 

It is a really nice combo.

[oedipus_tex]

Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharge in Tornado and Bonfire. -KB proc in both Tornado and Lightning Storm.

 

Fire/Storm is indeed very strong, and has only gotten better in the late issues of the game.

 

 

[Yeoman]

I'm glad I looked here tonight. I've been leveling my first controller in years and it's Fire/Storm.  My worry has been three things: 1) will I have endurance issues and how to solve them, 2) which defense to build for since I will be up close with hot feet, and 3) if I'm running toggles galore to get my def up, back to worry 1. 

 

Any suggestions on how to do this lovely combo without being end hungry and super squishy?

[Zep]

You will have endurance issues - depending on build and how many toggles you add (like all 3 leadership) it can get pretty bad. At 50 with the Alpha Slot things get much better.

 

You'll want 3 end redux in hotfeet. Once you get Imps you can turn it off a lot when not in use till 50/Alpha.

 

Slot a lot of end redux till 50, in everything - once you have your alpha resec and remove some of them - not all.

 

Fire Cages - if you use it - is a huge end pig with its fast recharge it can drain you with some toggles running.

[Neogumbercules]

On 9/28/2019 at 10:41 PM, Yeoman said:

I'm glad I looked here tonight. I've been leveling my first controller in years and it's Fire/Storm.  My worry has been three things: 1) will I have endurance issues and how to solve them, 2) which defense to build for since I will be up close with hot feet, and 3) if I'm running toggles galore to get my def up, back to worry 1. 

 

Any suggestions on how to do this lovely combo without being end hungry and super squishy?

 

Personally I'm not going to waste sets on going for any type of defense. Freezing plus Bonfire plus tornado (both with -kb slotted) is an enormous amount of mitigation. And that's before flashfire + thunderclap. Just go crazy with recharge so you can have these abilities up all the time. 

[VoidWolf3]

Any builds lying around to give people an idea of where to start? as I too am way late to this synergy however going in blind seems rather daunting. Very appreciative of the advice already given above 🙂

[Yeoman]

Well, here is the build I have cobbled together to fit my own play style.  It definitely isn't for everyone.  As a typically ranged AT player, I decided to build my guy for ranged DEF and therefore dropped Hot Feet entirely.  I also skipped Cinders, both for that reason and because I wasn't impressed with it as I was leveling (I am still leveling, only at lvl 31 as I write this.)  I have had very few low endurance concerns so far, with the attuned sets I have had from lvl 25 up to this level, and I spam Fire Cages, Flashfire, Freezing Rain and Bonfire whenever they're up.  I totally get what people are saying about not needing softcapped defense when your controls are all working, but I guess as a newbie controller and a former defender/blaster/Nova/Huntsman, ranged defense is hard to quit :)

 

 

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Pizza Oven Jones: Level 50 Magic Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Flight
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Ancillary Pool: Fire Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char

• (A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold
• (5) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge
• (7) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold
• (7) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold
• (15) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold
• (15) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold
  

Level 1: Gale

• (A) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown
  

Level 2: Fire Cages

• (A) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
• (9) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
• (9) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
• (11) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy)
• (11) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (13) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold
  

Level 4: Fly

• (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)
  

Level 6: Hover

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• (50) Defense Buff IO
  

Level 8: O2 Boost

• (A) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance
• (17) Numina's Convalesence - Endurance/Recharge
• (17) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Recharge
• (19) Numina's Convalesence - Heal/Endurance/Recharge
• (19) Numina's Convalesence - Heal
• (21) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
  

Level 10: Smoke

• (A) Accuracy IO
  

Level 12: Hasten

• (A) Recharge Reduction IO
• (13) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 14: Flashfire

• (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Recharge
• (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge
• (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance
• (27) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized
• (27) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Confused/Hold/Immobilize/Sleep/Stun/Terrorized/Endurance/Recharge
• (29) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage
  

Level 16: Freezing Rain

• (A) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff
• (29) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff
• (31) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Defense Debuff
• (31) Range IO
• (31) Shield Breaker - Defense Debuff/Endurance/Recharge
• (33) Recharge Reduction IO
  

Level 18: Kick

• (A) Empty
  

Level 20: Tough

• (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
• (21) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  

Level 22: Weave

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• (23) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance
• (23) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge
• (33) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge
• (33) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge
• (34) Red Fortune - Endurance
  

Level 24: Steamy Mist

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
• (34) Endurance Reduction IO
  

Level 26: Bonfire

• (A) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown
• (37) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage
• (39) Positron's Blast - Damage/Endurance
• (42) Positron's Blast - Damage/Recharge
• (43) Positron's Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (43) Range IO
  

Level 28: Thunder Clap

• (A) Stupefy - Accuracy/Recharge
• (36) Stupefy - Endurance/Stun
• (36) Stupefy - Accuracy/Endurance
• (36) Stupefy - Stun/Range
• (37) Stupefy - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
• (37) Stupefy - Chance of Knockback
  

Level 30: Combat Jumping

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  

Level 32: Fire Imps

• (A) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage
• (34) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance
• (45) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Endurance
• (45) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (50) Blood Mandate - Accuracy
• (50) Blood Mandate - Damage
  

Level 35: Tornado

• (A) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown
• (39) Call to Arms - Damage/Endurance
• (40) Range IO
• (43) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (45) Call to Arms - Endurance/Damage/Recharge
• (46) Call to Arms - Accuracy/Damage
  

Level 38: Lightning Storm

• (A) Sudden Acceleration - Knockback to Knockdown
• (39) Decimation - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge
• (40) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage
• (40) Decimation - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (42) Decimation - Damage/Endurance
• (42) Decimation - Damage/Recharge
  

Level 41: Fire Blast

• (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage
• (46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance
• (46) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge
• (48) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
• (48) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
• (48) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  

Level 44: Group Fly

• (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)
  

Level 47: Afterburner

• (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  

Level 49: Hurricane

• (A) Endurance Reduction IO
  

Level 1: Brawl

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Slide

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Quick

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Rush

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Prestige Power Surge

• (A) Empty
  

Level 1: Sprint

• (A) Empty
  

Level 2: Rest

• (A) Empty
  

Level 4: Ninja Run 

Level 2: Swift

[VoidWolf3]

Quickly cobbled this together, I'm missing 3 slots as I swapped out a power last minute and cant be bothered redoing the whole build (as it was at the 6th power selection). Also i'm using Pines and not Heroes Reborn (cant get it to work currently) so Sudden Acceleration should be assumed for Tornado and lightning storm over whats there currently...

 

I'm not tied to the ice power pool, just liked the idea of ice storm thematically.

 

Please those in the know give me some feedback. This combo seems quite slot hungry but i guess it's what you should be looking to build towards...I might be just as well be better off removing slots for more recharge than +def. Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

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Alto Stratus: Level 50 Science Controller
Primary Power Set: Fire Control
Secondary Power Set: Storm Summoning
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Char -- BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(3), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(3), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(5)
Level 1: Gale -- Acc-I(A)
Level 2: Fire Cages -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(5), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(7), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), PstBls-Dam%(9), GrvAnc-Hold%(9)
Level 4: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 6: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), Ksm-ToHit+(21), LucoftheG-Def(23)
Level 10: Boxing -- KntCmb-Acc/Dmg(A), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx(13), KntCmb-Dmg/Rchg(15), KntCmb-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15)
Level 12: Flashfire -- RzzDzz-Immob%(A), AbsAmz-Stun(17), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(17), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(19), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(19), AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(21)
Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(23), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(27), GldArm-3defTpProc(27)
Level 16: Freezing Rain -- ShlBrk-DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(29), ShlBrk-Acc/Rchg(29), ShlBrk-DefDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(31), ShlBrk-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(31), ShlBrk-%Dam(31)
Level 18: Cinders -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(33), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(34), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(34)
Level 20: Hurricane -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(34), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(36), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(36)
Level 22: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(37), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(37)
Level 24: Hot Feet -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(39), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Obl-%Dam(40)
Level 26: Bonfire -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(42)
Level 28: Thunder Clap -- Stp-Acc/Rchg(A), Stp-EndRdx/Stun(42), Stp-Acc/EndRdx(42), Stp-Stun/Rng(43), Stp-Acc/Stun/Rchg(43)
Level 30: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(43)
Level 32: Fire Imps -- CaltoArm-Acc/Rchg(A), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg(45), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), CaltoArm-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(45)
Level 35: Tornado -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(46)
Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Apc-Acc/Rchg(48), Dvs-Hold%(48)
Level 41: Hibernate -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 44: Frozen Armor -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Ice Storm -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(50), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(50), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(50)
Level 49: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Containment 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon 
Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany 
Level 50: Assault Radial Embodiment 
Level 50: Pyronic Radial Final Judgement 
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