Jump to content

Recommended Posts

Posted

I'm a long-time player of kinetics and radiation defenders and love them.  I wanted to explore the viability of these secondaries on a mastermind.  Folks have talked about kinetics, and I get the impression that it makes wonderfully violent pets that don't survive very well.  I can grasp that.

 

But I'm wondering about /radiation, too.  My rad/ sonic defender can solo just about anything in the game (though very slowly).  I wondered if I could make an effective mastermind using a similar strategy.

 

Unfortunately, my hero planner crashes when I even make the attempt.  It will not load the Radiation set for masterminds.  I looked online and saw that people used to have this problem, but everyone says it's fixed now.  So I tried to download the latest version of pines.  My version insists that it IS, in fact, the latest version.  No new updates available.  So I installed mids reborn.  Upon starting, it covers my screen with error messages that will not go away.  AGAIN, on the forums, people say this used to be a problem, but it's fixed now.  AGAIN I tried to get the latest version, only to be told that I already have it.

 

I'm not a computer expert.  I can barely turn my computer on without help.  I just want to look at the viability of these builds.  And I'm frustrated to the point of distraction now.

 

Maybe someone can talk about /radiation at level 50, fully slotted.  How does it perform?  Can it solo well?  Does anyone have a good build to share?  If it doesn't work well, I won't keep pursuing it.

 

Everyone swears by /time, and I know /time is effective (at least for a defender, it is), but I find it clunky and unpleasant to manage.  It's just not very compatible with my play-style.  I'm really hoping for a viable strategy that uses one of the sets I already love.  If this isn't possible, I will adapt and overcome.

 

Posted

I'm going with the standard build I do normally and break out from there.

Radiation is like dark I see so unless you can defense cap you will be relying on your toggles and anchor to keep you at defense cap.

ATM right from the start I am thinking Range defense cap, Smash and Lethal defense cap and then mid 20s with Melee and AOE defenses and use Radiation infection to get you to get you to Melee and AOE defense cap. 

 

Not crazy about EMP Pulse and the crash. I am thinking power boost instead.

Will look at this some more.  But its a start

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.5
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 49 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Demon Summoning
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Summon Demonlings -- Empty(A), Empty(3), Empty(3), Empty(5), Empty(5), Empty(7)
Level 1: Radiant Aura -- Empty(A), Empty(7), Empty(9), Empty(9), Empty(11)
Level 2: Radiation Infection -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Accelerate Metabolism -- Empty(A)
Level 6: Enchant Demon -- Empty(A)
Level 8: Hasten -- Empty(A)
Level 10: Enervating Field -- Empty(A)
Level 12: Summon Demons -- Empty(A), Empty(13), Empty(13), Empty(15), Empty(15), Empty(17)
Level 14: Super Speed -- Empty(A)
Level 16: Mutation -- Empty(A)
Level 18: Hell on Earth -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Lingering Radiation -- Empty(A)
Level 22: Maneuvers -- Empty(A)
Level 24: Tactics -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Summon Demon Prince -- Empty(A), Empty(27), Empty(27), Empty(29), Empty(29), Empty(31)
Level 28: Choking Cloud -- Empty(A)
Level 30: Kick -- Empty(A)
Level 32: Abyssal Empowerment -- Empty(A)
Level 35: Fallout -- Empty(A)
Level 38: EM Pulse -- Empty(A)
Level 41: Tough -- Empty(A)
Level 44: Weave -- Empty(A)
Level 47: Hover -- Empty(A)
Level 49: Scorpion Shield -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy 
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- Empty(A)
------------

| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1005;431;862;HEX;|
|78DA65D2EB4A02411400E0D9D4CC5B2A22666A966189C262D4FFA0B4085C907C005|
|974D4015DC555A89F3D46449727E8772FD5E50DEC78E6A44333B087996FCF9C39EC|
|AC75570BBF5F3F9C33237639B45DB76DD9EE8C4F47C2E9FA2CBB2F3A1E06C30FCFC|
|1FA4DBB351F8DC68E59E31069219C7E41C9B898F77AE6ADDD15F64C404E7D245C17|
|26F11B67C0A7DC99997F9360733C1E9AAD09E7DD284E1BDCEEF2A93B109308AEAF4|
|47F3083EA21B91A2E97D9FA44744CE538CBEE706AFD7E079A2DC2F3186334163EB6|
|80C13694E855E226C67C7995EF658A6F293188711F320D033399817200E2917B990|
|7E5094EF791F8500A7EF92197E29702BB02542780F20CBB42D4730825ACC46D25C6|
|301E42C108D58C48819A519228CA0BD48C93C4518A90932049A0C4A14E923A49A22|
|4405224299457A893A6DED228BB4ACC2A710FE3119C92A15332F2CB43CD1C490EE5|
|0D6AE649F228C7B0AB4052402995E57D2EA588E2813A25EAAD24EF11A4425241098|
|0982426CA075C5095A42ABBF5AE6E9CC91B2F6B52D5E44493534DCE34696862AD65|
|D184B9C1D43F2A105BFD518BCFE0FFFFED5B932F4D7E34F9053AE3613D|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Posted

I really enjoyed my Rad\Rad defender back on live and I never created a Beast MM.    So I have a lvl 47 Beast\Rad.

Solo is not an issue at all.    Once I have the boss pinned with the Rad toggles it makes it easy.

I finally was able to slot my 50s so I am still pushing up how high I can go in missions.

 

Here is what I am shooting for,   I have the purples and MM sets,   they are not able to be slotted yet for me,

 

Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.1
https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer

timber: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Beast Mastery
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
------------
Level 1:    Summon Wolves            SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(7), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SlbAll-Dmg(9), SlbAll-Build%(11), AchHee-ResDeb%(50)
Level 1:    Radiant Aura            NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(3), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(3), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(5), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(5), NmnCnv-Heal(7)
Level 2:    Radiation Infection        AchHee-ResDeb%(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(21), DarWtcDsp-Slow%(21)
Level 4:    Accelerate Metabolism        EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(A), EffAdp-EndMod(19), PrfShf-EndMod(46), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(48)
Level 6:    Train Beasts            EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8:    Call Hawk            FrcFdb-Rechg%(A), CldSns-%Dam(23), CldSns-ToHitDeb(23), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(33), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(33), GldJvl-Dam%(34)
Level 10:    Enervating Field        EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12:    Summon Lions            SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprMarofS-Dmg(13), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(13), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(15), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(17)
Level 14:    Call Ravens            Ann-Acc/Dmg(A), TchofLadG-DefDeb/EndRdx(36), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), Ann-ResDeb%(36), TchofLadG-%Dam(37), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(37)
Level 16:    Super Jump            Jump-I(A)
Level 18:    Fortify Pack            ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(A), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(48), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(50), Rct-ResDam%(50)
Level 20:    Lingering Radiation        PcnoftheT-Acc/Slow(A), PcnoftheT--Rchg%(34), PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(34)
Level 22:    Maneuvers            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37), LucoftheG-Def(39), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(48)
Level 24:    Tactics                GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(25), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(25), GssSynFr--Build%(31), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(31), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(33)
Level 26:    Summon Dire Wolf        SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(27), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(27), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(29), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(31)
Level 28:    Choking Cloud            BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(40), Lck-%Hold(43), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(43), BslGaz-Slow%(46)
Level 30:    Combat Jumping            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 32:    Tame Beasts            EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35:    Hasten                RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(40)
Level 38:    EM Pulse            BslGaz-Acc/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg(39), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(39), BslGaz-Slow%(40)
Level 41:    Scorpion Shield            LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def(42), LucoftheG-EndRdx/Rchg(42), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42)
Level 44:    Web Envelope            EnfOpr-Acc/Rchg(A), EnfOpr-EndRdx/Immob(45), EnfOpr-Acc/EndRdx(45), EnfOpr-Immob/Rng(45), GrvAnc-Hold%(46)
Level 47:    Power Boost            EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49:    Vengeance            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1:    Brawl                Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Dash        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Slide        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Quick        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Rush        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Surge        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                Run-I(A)
Level 1:    Supremacy    
Level 2:    Rest                Empty(A)
Level 4:    Ninja Run    
Level 2:    Swift                Run-I(A)
Level 2:    Health                Mrc-Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(19)
Level 2:    Hurdle                Jump-I(A)
Level 2:    Stamina                PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(11), EndMod-I(17)
------------

 

Murph

 

Posted

Thanks for fast and helpful responses.  On some of the AT forums, you get ignored for days, then abused, then ignored some more.  Who'd have thought such a naughty AT would have such a pleasant community?

 

I'll create a /rad MM this very day and see how it goes!

 

Anyone have any other strategies or build ideas?

Posted

Just wanted to say I find this aoe pulsing hold to be a useful form of damage mitigation, as you can pretty much ignore minions while focusing down bosses and LTs. I don’t run more than -1x1 because I’m more focused on merits, but most times I don’t even need to debuff, just let the choking cloud do its thing.

Posted
13 hours ago, Shoulung said:

Just wanted to say I find this aoe pulsing hold to be a useful form of damage mitigation, as you can pretty much ignore minions while focusing down bosses and LTs. I don’t run more than -1x1 because I’m more focused on merits, but most times I don’t even need to debuff, just let the choking cloud do its thing.

I appreciate that advice.  I've never taken Choking Cloud before, but I will this time to see how it performs!  In my own sketched-out build, which is a close mash-up of the above offering, I still have two powers I can pick that I'm not totally married to.  I'll use Choking Cloud for one of them.

 

I'm on a mission.  I hear so much about how well /time performs to make your minions unkillable.  I like unkillable.  But as I said before, I don't enjoy running with /time.  I'm hoping (desperately) that I can do just as well with /rad.  Because I think /rad is so much fun... and it turns AVs and monsters into paste and asks so little in return.

 

I'm running through an initial toon (sort of a test-toon) right now: necro/ rad.  He's only 30 so far.  He's soloed all the Task Force Commander TFs but the final two (about to do Manticore today) and my, is he beastly.  I know that this doesn't really say anything about the challenges of the end-game--they're very different.  I know that.  But I'll get to those things, too, in time.  If they defeat me, they defeat me, and this will be a learning experience.

 

What I really want is a great bots/ toon.  I've always thought bots were the coolest.  If I can do well in the end game with this necro/ toon, I'll make a bots/ rad and (hopefully) love him, cherish him, put him on my page 1 with all my 50s I actually like and want to keep playing.  That's my goal.

Posted

Here's my concept build for a Mortician: necro/rad!  Not only does he raise the dead to serve him as pets; he calls allies to him with recall friend and then casts vengeance, fallout, mutation! 

 

He's just shy of soft-cap to S/L, but with radiation infection, gloom, life drain, and all the -tohit generated by the pets you are essentially softcapped to much more than just S/L.  The defense is backed by moderate resists, and heals from radiant aura and life drain (which some pets also have).  The pets also have +10 defense to all (+25 to AoE) and +25 resist to all from the pet proc IOs, which goes on top of their inherent armor.

 

While Bots are better AV and GM killers this build can also solo AVs and GMs.

 

Hero Plan by Mids' Hero Designer 1.962
http://www.cohplanner.com/

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Necrotic Flea: Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Necromancy
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Teleportation
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Zombie Horde -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(7)
Level 1: Radiant Aura -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(11), Prv-Absorb%(11)
Level 2: Gloom -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(15), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(17)
Level 4: Accelerate Metabolism -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(17), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(19), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(19), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(21), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(21)
Level 6: Enchant Undead -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 8: Life Drain -- GldJvl-Acc/Dmg(A), GldJvl-Dam/Rech(23), GldJvl-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(23), GldJvl-Dam/End/Rech(25), GldJvl-Dam%(25), TchoftheN-%Dam(27)
Level 10: Enervating Field -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Grave Knight -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(27), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(29), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(29), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(31)
Level 14: Maneuvers -- Rct-ResDam%(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(31), LucoftheG-Rchg+(33)
Level 16: Radiation Infection -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(33), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(33), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(34), AchHee-ResDeb%(34)
Level 18: Soul Extraction -- CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg(A), CaltoArm-Dmg/EndRdx(34), CaltoArm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(36), EdcoftheM-PetDef(36), SvrRgh-PetResDam(37)
Level 20: Lingering Radiation -- RechRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(37)
Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)
Level 24: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(37), UnbGrd-ResDam(39), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(39), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(39), UnbGrd-Max HP%(40)
Level 26: Lich -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(40), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(40), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(42), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(42)
Level 28: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(43), LucoftheG-Def(43)
Level 30: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Dark Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(43), LucoftheG-Def(46)
Level 38: Mutation -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 41: Vengeance -- Krm-ResKB(A), LucoftheG-Rchg+(48)
Level 44: Fallout -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(45), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(46), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(46)
Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48)
Level 49: Recall Friend -- WntGif-RunSpd/Jump/Fly/Rng/EndRdx(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(50), Mrc-Rcvry+(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(48), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(50)
Level 0: Portal Jockey
Level 0: Task Force Commander
Level 0: The Atlas Medallion
Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve
Level 50: Agility Radial Paragon
Level 50: Barrier Partial Core Invocation
Level 50: Void Partial Radial Judgement
Level 50: Support Core Genome
Level 50: Degenerative Partial Radial Conversion
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Partial Core Improved Ally
------------

 

| Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build |
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|
|MxDz;1601;731;1462;HEX;|
|78DA6594CB4F135114C6EFB453B185D296B63C4A79D522D0424BD5BD8902264A0D1|
|1445D1832B6034CD257DA92C8D23F40131F892BF7BCDD28A0890B139FFF841A378A|
|8AA040D4B8A8C7399F7462276D7E77BE7BCF39DFB93377E257076A564E5D3B2E24E|
|7C99452284CC4954251CDA7B54CD21257A6B484A0CB7E564DE4B3452DD13E945295|
|2A52FCE56513A333E9743613D1D7A4954C623660983C3133391939A72435A5A8653|
|3138369AD50A081708C64B3A9C8B0AA24D57C615ACBD9F5FB216D6ABAA865A66CFA|
|DD684E559375FA704C4DA9B96CBEA867F10FE6B444C45024AE2454189F6D247751F|
|ACF5904AE92453C330B119385E939F88229BF045F310FBC66D6860CB11F31B7C13C|
|F809FCCCB47D013799F3545742AC3427EB5ACD3CB8C0AC5D049798CE6590EA9A258|
|E35DF32B1769B597707BCCEF4DC006F3217A82EB75C12960EA16B8B2454C14B550F|
|FBAB0F8161666304EC65FA1A992EF262453E2BF22D51BE6AE4AB1E63CFBE71A6FF3|
|C7881D97A11BCC47491113BF766B2EF708DD633CC76AFA4D341351D9C5F76AC725F|
|ED6BE03AB3E331F894E896C5327972C193EB0D692D34F79679E81DF81EDCA0655DB|
|208EE713F6EAAE7E658C91D662D885E25F2EB45FF5E1F6B66D21AF07C1AFE0E2867|
|F008F7707817DC037F30BB7E3157C867137C366D710F5DDBE03766CF777007DC65C|
|A54B7197BD78CBD0A39410FB38ED6B4F01AD1821EEE53CD36F4D0066D9DEC04902B|
|F05FAEBE7FB9685F3A11D7897DF150FE6EEC55F74FA1F71E45BC97D687D15BF8013|
|FEFDE87E02AB8C6EC5B071F31039437C27EA4885ECB2AA26027CDF5C347BF8FF7D1|
|2FEF9F4DFAD12542154A7F8512AB508E5628C72A94E10A255E564A23F2FE4917923|
|E6B75D2F9C5ECA68D66F13CA43EDEC3ADB266923AB89FD838EF61ECB4A4BF9B5F8D|
|71DD1CB76D8CBBCBEF4414DF8718BE0F976DBA4BBDB662185F318C470CE3DFF514C|
|6394BF7E810C4A0F778CAFA9340591F6828EB1F82E5F11F673C11EC|
|-------------------------------------------------------------------|

Posted

That build looks beautiful.

 

I notice you did NOT go with choking cloud.  Do you not feel that it's an effective enough controller for lesser bad-guys?

 

I also see that you took Mutation and Fallout, neither of which work with your pets.  Are they meant to make you more  useful for groups?

Posted (edited)

I'm generally not a fan of choking cloud UNLESS it's paired with another aura, like hot feet for example.  Other people love it, especially with the Lockdown +2 hold proc.  And yes, recall friend/mutation/fallout/vengeance is part of this build's gimmick as a "mortician" or a necromancer.  You could certainly switch those out to go in a different direction and you should if you intend to solo all the time or play in teams where no one ever dies.  But in PUG groups, it's an amazing combination that can turn an almost team-wipe into a curb stomp.  Fallout does amazing damage AND is an insane debuff (-20 def, -50 res, -30 tohit, and -30 dam).  That combined with the buffs from vengeance, which also benefit your pets, and even the dead ally gets a boost from the mutation rez, makes for some fun times.

Edited by Bionic_Flea
Posted
10 hours ago, ApollyonJones said:

I appreciate that advice.  I've never taken Choking Cloud before, but I will this time to see how it performs!  In my own sketched-out build, which is a close mash-up of the above offering, I still have two powers I can pick that I'm not totally married to.  I'll use Choking Cloud for one of them.

 

I'm on a mission.  I hear so much about how well /time performs to make your minions unkillable.  I like unkillable.  But as I said before, I don't enjoy running with /time.  I'm hoping (desperately) that I can do just as well with /rad.  Because I think /rad is so much fun... and it turns AVs and monsters into paste and asks so little in return.

 

I'm running through an initial toon (sort of a test-toon) right now: necro/ rad.  He's only 30 so far.  He's soloed all the Task Force Commander TFs but the final two (about to do Manticore today) and my, is he beastly.  I know that this doesn't really say anything about the challenges of the end-game--they're very different.  I know that.  But I'll get to those things, too, in time.  If they defeat me, they defeat me, and this will be a learning experience.

 

What I really want is a great bots/ toon.  I've always thought bots were the coolest.  If I can do well in the end game with this necro/ toon, I'll make a bots/ rad and (hopefully) love him, cherish him, put him on my page 1 with all my 50s I actually like and want to keep playing.  That's my goal.

I’m surprised you’re finding AVs so easy on your/rad; my necro/rad had to get the envenomed daggers temp power to take down the clockwork king, though I didn’t have any of the pet aura IOs and everything wasn’t fully slotted yet, so that might have made the difference.

Posted

Dr. Vahz in Posi 2 gave me the most trouble.  I was exemplared to 16 for that one, of course, so that didn't help--two little minions and one medium was all I got.  When all the additional mobs arrived, I eventually had to back off and heal up.  But when I did, the little mobs followed me and he didn't.  So my guys killed them, then I came back, found him alone, and dropped him.

 

And Vandal (was that Citadel's TF?  I think it was Citadel) stunned me and dropped my toggles at one point, and by the time I had my debuffs up again he had ALMOST killed me, and he'd killed most of the pets.  But I was able to recover and get him.

 

The clockwork king was the easiest of all--he gave me no trouble I could remember, except at low health he started running around, which was annoying.

 

I didn't get to Manticore today, but if I remember right, you have to kill an AV, then you have to kill that one a second time and another one with him.  And Numina's end-boss is Jurassic, a monster, which should be much harder.  Those will be more interesting tests, for sure.

  • 1 year later
Posted (edited)

Main thing I'd give for advice is don't bother trying to hit 45% Defense values.

 

With a slotted Rad Infection you'll hose their chance to hit, meaning you can get by with lower Defense.  I wound up with 33% S/L and 26% Energy without even trying.  That should be enough in most circumstances.

 

Nemesis Vengeance stacking will suck regardless.

 

I built this with that lower Defense target in mind; main thing it does is perma Lingering Rad and Accelerate Metabolism.  Didn't take Hasten for this, as I can now autofire Clarion instead.

 

I also left out Call Ravens, as it drew a bit too much hate.  Rad works best when things aren't targeting you with mez.  If you get mezzed, your debuff toggles drop and you die.  Hence why I went with Clarion.

 

Spoiler

This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.9
https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Doc Wardwell: Level 50 Science Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Beast Mastery
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Emission
Power Pool: Experimentation
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Summon Wolves -- SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx:50(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx:50(45), SlbAll-Dmg:50(46), AchHee-ResDeb%:20(46), TchofLadG-%Dam:50(46), ShlBrk-%Dam:30(48)
Level 1: Radiant Aura -- Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx:50(A), Prv-Heal:50(23), Prv-Heal/EndRdx:50(25), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(40), Prv-Heal/Rchg:50(43), Prv-Absorb%:50(43)
Level 2: Call Hawk -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:40(A), Dcm-Acc/Dmg:40(3), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg:40(3), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg:40(7), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx:40(13), Dvs-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(19)
Level 4: Radiation Infection -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb:50(A), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx:50(5), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx:50(5), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx:50(7)
Level 6: Train Beasts -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 8: Accelerate Metabolism -- RechRdx-I:50(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech:50(9), PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech:50(9), PreOptmz-EndMod/End:50(11), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End:50(11), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech:50(45)
Level 10: Enervating Field -- EndRdx-I:50(A), EndRdx-I:50(19)
Level 12: Summon Lions -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg:50(13), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx:50(15), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef:50(15), OvrFrc-Dam/KB:50(17), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets):30(17)
Level 14: Speed of Sound -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB:50(A)
Level 16: Mutation -- PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech:50(A)
Level 18: Fortify Pack -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)
Level 20: Lingering Radiation -- TmpRdn-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow:50(A), TmpRdn-Acc/EndRdx:50(21), TmpRdn-Acc/Slow:50(21), TmpRdn-Acc/Dmg/Slow:50(23), TmpRdn-Rng/Slow:50(25), RechRdx-I:50(45)
Level 22: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Summon Dire Wolf -- SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(A), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg:50(27), SprMarofS-Dmg:50(27), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen:50(29), ImpSwf-Dam%:30(29), EdcoftheM-PetDef:40(33)
Level 28: Choking Cloud -- BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(A), BslGaz-Acc/Hold:30(34), BslGaz-Acc/Rchg:30(34), BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:30(34), GldNet-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:50(37), GldNet-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold:50(50)
Level 30: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx:40(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:40(31), RctArm-ResDam:40(31), RctArm-EndRdx:40(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(33), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(33)
Level 32: Tame Beasts -- EndRdx-I:50(A)
Level 35: Scorpion Shield -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx:50(A), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(36), RedFrt-Def:50(36), RedFrt-EndRdx:50(36), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg:50(37), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(37)
Level 38: EM Pulse -- UnbCns-Acc/Hold/Rchg:50(A), UnbCns-Acc/Rchg:50(39), UnbCns-Hold/Rchg:50(39), UnbCns-EndRdx/Hold:50(39), UnbCns-Dam%:50(40), Lck-%Hold:50(40)
Level 41: Fallout -- Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(A), Rgn-Acc/Rchg:50(42), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg:50(42), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(42), Rgn-Knock%:50(43)
Level 44: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)
Level 47: Tactics -- RctRtc-Pcptn:20(A)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)
Level 1: Supremacy 
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth:50(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Heal-I:50(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(50), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(50)
Level 1: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A), PrfShf-EndMod:50(48), PrfShf-End%:50(48)
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon 
Level 50: Mighty Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Degenerative Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Robotic Drones Radial Superior Ally 
Level 50: Support Core Embodiment 
Level 50: Clarion Core Epiphany 
Level 1: Alpha Howler Wolf 
Level 1: Howler Wolf 
Level 26: Dire Wolf 
Level 12: Lioness 
Level 1: Pack Mentality 
------------

 

The Endurance values in Mids are bugged for some reason, but with perma AM going you shouldn't be out of breath too often.

 

I finally decided on this for my Beast/ cuz I wanted to hunt AVs/GMs, and Rad tends to do that better than any other secondary.  Beasts can kick out serious proc damage against a single target, and the Wolves keep Achilles' up nearly all the time.

 

My pet slotting is optimal DPS for Beasts, but I'm sure you can do something similar with Demons.

Edited by SableShrike
  • Thumbs Up 1

Create an account or sign in to comment

You need to be a member in order to leave a comment

Create an account

Sign up for a new account in our community. It's easy!

Register a new account

Sign in

Already have an account? Sign in here.

Sign In Now
×
×
  • Create New...