Fletch42 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 I just got my earth/storm controller to 50. I was hoping to see some other heroes builds so I can get an idea of how to slot/enhance him. Thanks
Coyote Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 I don't run that anymore, but I have one simple suggestion times three: Force Feedback proc in EQ, Tornado, and LS Also, Stoney's main purpose is tanking, so put all 4 pet defense/resist IOs in him. Adding a bit more damage isn't as important as making him tougher. I'd finish with a SoulBound Damage and an Acc/Dam IO or Hami-O to get more out of him, but the defensive portion is the most important. Also, you don't need more control, you want more damage, so slot up Fossilize with damage procs.
Doomguide2005 Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) 4 hours ago, Coyote said: I don't run that anymore, but I have one simple suggestion times three: Force Feedback proc in EQ, Tornado, and LS Also, Stoney's main purpose is tanking, so put all 4 pet defense/resist IOs in him. Adding a bit more damage isn't as important as making him tougher. I'd finish with a SoulBound Damage and an Acc/Dam IO or Hami-O to get more out of him, but the defensive portion is the most important. Also, you don't need more control, you want more damage, so slot up Fossilize with damage procs. This is sound advice. Have you picked an Epic. Mine was and is Stone. Seismic Smash is very potent melee attack and for me Fissure is another stun to go with Stalagmites and Thunderclap as my build rarely uses Hurricane and focuses on stunning the mob(s) into oblivion. Plus it will hold another FF proc. And sorry only internet is this phone so unable to post/view Mids' or get in game currently. Totally blows I find HC and the computer up and keels over ☹ 3 months later ... the universe hates me. Edited June 20, 2020 by Doomguide2005
fitzsimmons Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 One of my favorite builds. I went the acrobatics route instead of clarion. I took nerve agility for the defense buff boost which gets me to softcapped for melee and ranged. There are other options. It plays beautifully but solo is a slow burn. On teams it's fantastic. Pop stone cages before stalagmites otherwise they'll go flying. Have not looked at the new IO sets but there may be changes I can do. That being said, I love him just the way he is. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1469;665;1330;HEX;| |78DA6594594F13511886CF999952E8424B4B6D11BA500B65B350F5DE0444130349B| |589576A6960BA24D0366D71493482CBBD6BBC72FD01FE02F587E84F300A821BDED4| |6FE6FD4A1B6792E699F37ECB9C79BF395DBE71C6F5EEDCF66921BD0BEBF94623B75| |0AD34EBD5F575BD6E5BCE17CBABC2B8ECF48B7522EDA4D462BEDE2CB557D1AE84F9| |CD4221956D56EB1BB9ECE6C646B552AE14852353A59A6C4DD7D73CE6ED929E5FD3E| |B8D52B9E66AAF6B94E8361767CBC5529356BEC55A79D5E855D173CBF94653AFDF0C| |D17626E8774B0ABE5A36719916614D2879B0F70AE8B8CACC81AE1570A5532BC4034| |588414DDC264D723FF990EED29AD01E311F833D4F984FC1DE67609C3C52CDE29654| |A785A945980314B371CC1640FEA0173C42313B628AFDBFD8F8BE6A7295967DC8B1F| |53910EB77325DA0D7CDEC077D1E708BE0E47772DE81E6BAC739F7790F5BCC6D3074| |170CD2DEDCA895EE4F8AA9C53E836B94E2E1BE1EA99A9E8E2A4C95A981C76CCC1ED| |078CC006A9581F7D4CF4FB10F60E22318A267FBF1CEC23F0A1F2569019E59A04597| |504909B2B3C113702B14C4848D9718E21D0EFDC4AE8FFE62FE0647FE300FC0C85F5| |0A3BEC3DC7798A712E3A9148CF6E8AB851B7856AC0926AE83E39BCC6BA0617894F7| |12DDC133123FC0C95D70EA3B738FB90F16A936CEB571763AC94E27D9E9243B3DC94| |E4FB2D325AA1DE3DAB1177071E62578FC15F335F30D38FB16FCA2E29419539AE0DA| |59AE9DE5DA039710D3C851A7338438F5CF82E90BCC8BE037EA97624F5311CC2ACD2| |7C4477ECFF1B4E778DA235AD70935A71DEE28AD294B74CEA2A42DCA498B72CAA22C| |59948C76F8BF20A4A9F479E9B4F34EBE3A282ABBA33B1D45CA4BF86A66CE1393E48| |2257BB7A328328677579891E7F8065A87D7BC9F0464B7FE01ECEDF161| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Seigmoraig Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 (edited) Here's the build I roll on my Earth/Storm. It's focused on making the enemies do the belly flop dance with Earthquake, Gale and both Tornadoes it's a lot of fun ! Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Technology ControllerPrimary Power Set: Earth ControlSecondary Power Set: Storm SummoningPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FlightAncillary Pool: Psionic Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Fossilize -- GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(A), GldNet-Dam%(3), UnbCns-Dam%(5), NrnSht-Dam%(5), GldJvl-Dam%(7), HO:Nucle(45)Level 1: Gale -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(3)Level 2: Stone Cages -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/Rchg(7), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(9), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(9), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(11), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(11)Level 4: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(13)Level 6: Quicksand -- PcnoftheT--Rchg%(A), PcnoftheT-Acc/Slow(13), PcnoftheT-Dmg/Slow(15), PcnoftheT-Acc/EndRdx(15), PcnoftheT-Rng/Slow(17), PcnoftheT-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(17)Level 8: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(29), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(29), UnbGrd-ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)Level 12: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)Level 14: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), StdPrt-ResKB(25), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(33), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(43), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(43)Level 16: Freezing Rain -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A)Level 18: Earthquake -- DmpSpr-ToHitDeb(A), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg(19), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/Rchg/EndRdx(19), DmpSpr-Rchg/EndRdx(21), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(21), FrcFdb-Rechg%(23)Level 20: Hurricane -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 22: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45)Level 24: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(33)Level 26: Volcanic Gasses -- UnbCns-Acc/Rchg(A)Level 28: Tactics -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(40), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(48), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(25), GssSynFr--Build%(50)Level 30: O2 Boost -- Heal-I(A)Level 32: Animate Stone -- BldMnd-Acc/Dmg(A), BldMnd-Dmg/EndRdx(45), BldMnd-Acc/EndRdx(46), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), BldMnd-Acc(46), BldMnd-Dmg(50)Level 35: Tornado -- SlbAll-Dmg/Rchg(A), SlbAll-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SlbAll-Acc/Rchg(36), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37)Level 38: Lightning Storm -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(40), FrcFdb-Rechg%(40)Level 41: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(42)Level 44: Indomitable Will -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 47: Mind Over Body -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(48), GldArm-3defTpProc(50)Level 49: Psionic Tornado -- OvrFrc-Dam/KB(A), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(37), OvrFrc-End/Rech(34), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(34), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(34), FrcFdb-Rechg%(23)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: ContainmentLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(42), Mrc-Rcvry+(42)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(43)Level 0: The Atlas MedallionLevel 50: Ageless InvocationLevel 50: Support Partial Radial GraftLevel 50: Spiritual Partial Core Revamp------------ Edited June 20, 2020 by Seigmoraig
Avilister Posted June 20, 2020 Posted June 20, 2020 Here's the build I use. I drop Volcanic Gasses because I just wasn't ever using it and replaced it with Thunder Clap, which, though it has a lower mag than most controller stuns, stacks with them. Also I love the Thunder Clap animation. It has half the rechage of Stalagmites, so I use it pretty frequently. Its safe, too, because of the faceplant loop that FR+EQ+Tornado will put everything in. I am quite fond of KB->KD enhancements, as this build shows, but they do a great job of actually letting you control. Some judicious use of Hurricane can help keep mobs grouped tightly to be AOE'd down. This build is capable of substantial solo damage, mostly single-target, but still surprising when I first finished it. Seismic Smash on a controlled target is not to be underestimated. I was able to solo my Mender Ramiel missions with only a little trouble on the last mission (I think I died twice?). This doesn't include incarnates in the build. I went with Intuition Radial for the debuff enhancements and damage buff, Reactive Core for the resistance debuff (something the set doesn't have natively, but you can slot and add this to get some of), Ion Core Judgement (of course, lightning, and also damage, don't really care about the extra control chance on a controller), Clarion Core Destiny (finally some mez prots), I've got Banished Panthon and Storm Elemental Lore pets both, BP for somewhat more hardcore material and Storm Elementals because... more storm. Finally I went with Support Core for Hybrid slot. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.1.25https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Soul of Gaia: Level 50 Magic ControllerPrimary Power Set: Earth ControlSecondary Power Set: Storm SummoningPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: FightingAncillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Fossilize -- GhsWdwEmb-Acc/EndRdx(A), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(3), GldNet-Dam%(3), GldJvl-Dam%(5), UnbCns-Dam%(5), NrnSht-Dam%(7)Level 1: Gale -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD(A), FrcFdb-Rechg%(9)Level 2: Stone Cages -- PstBls-Acc/Dmg(A), PstBls-Dmg/EndRdx(19), PstBls-Dmg/Rchg(19), PstBls-Dmg/Rng(23), PstBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(25), PstBls-Dam%(25)Level 4: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 6: Quicksand -- TmpRdn-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(A)Level 8: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(9)Level 10: Steamy Mist -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(11), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(11), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17)Level 12: Stalagmites -- SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprWiloft-EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(13), SprWiloft-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprWiloft-Rchg/Dmg%(15), PstBls-Dam%(17)Level 14: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)Level 16: Freezing Rain -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 18: Earthquake -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(21), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(27), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(27), FrcFdb-Rechg%(43)Level 20: Hurricane -- EndRdx-I(A), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(21)Level 22: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(23), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(37)Level 24: Boxing -- HO:Nucle(A)Level 26: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(34), GldArm-End/Res(40)Level 28: Thunder Clap -- SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear(A), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx(29), SprOvrPrs-Acc/Conf/Hold/Immob/Sleep/Stun/Fear/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprOvrPrs-Rchg/Energy Font(40)Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(31), LucoftheG-Def(31)Level 32: Animate Stone -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(33), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(33), SlbAll-Build%(34), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(34)Level 35: Tornado -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(36), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(36), AchHee-ResDeb%(37), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(37)Level 38: Lightning Storm -- Dcm-Acc/Dmg(A), Dcm-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Dcm-Dmg/Rchg(39), Dcm-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), Dcm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(46)Level 41: Fissure -- Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(42), FrcFdb-Rechg%(42), ExpStr-Dam%(42), Ann-ResDeb%(43), PstBls-Dam%(43)Level 44: Seismic Smash -- TchofDth-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Hct-Dam%(45), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(45), TchofDth-Dam%(45), GldStr-%Dam(46), Mk'Bit-Dam%(46)Level 47: Rock Armor -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(48), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(48)Level 49: Hurl Boulder -- Thn-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), GldJvl-Dam%(50), ExpStr-Dam%(50), FrcFdb-Rechg%(50)Level 1: Brawl -- HO:Nucle(A)Level 1: ContainmentLevel 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- IntRdx-I(A)Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(31), Mrc-Rcvry+(48)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(7)------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1471;699;1398;HEX;| |78DA6594CB4F135114C6EFED4C859656CAA3142C8596872D7DD1AA4B13131189421| |39226EE4C9DC0F4A16DA7E92391448DC4F80FB8C1C7CA8D5149DCF800DCF97FB831| |C6B8500465E5AA9ECEF9B04D3A49F3CBF9CEF9EE3DF7CCDCA66E5F72BC59DABC20A| |46BA1A8D56A9905A35CAF1AC5A25EB5A6B45C614DD0E3481B8DA2DFC8FA97B482D6| |4382BF5D756C882F6AD57AFE389AEC28B8D8C866E3E9BA512D65D28D52C92817CA3| |9E15835C8B3A26B158AEC6690AEE8FA7AFFB1BEAE576BF942C569C6970BB97C9D0A| |07172B85B5D65A653D93D26A75BDBA314AEDCCD2EF8E14789A56719382A42A2C257| |05131A946C12B16932734CAFB5471A3ED95E2AB6AE67A1F72CD5DCA49AC2BDF0A53| |1B7C07BE678E7C608EEE80BBD069568A696E0AC5CDBDDC2358793D61DD6E6936314| |5753D5C277B22ECED05D748B7714EB1610DFB119FC3BECC74B958BF4FE843AF7D2F| |38E77809BE629E7C0D6EC38B5E3DD483137D393FF3D9D769BD7E68FD663F36B149D| |A006BEAC00ED70DEF324F7D04F79861CC5027CF10E63B14E0FD8631E701DAD7CDE7| |B3B871BE9161E60CCE25A9C6833E3CE709AA2214D2C6E01B3BC3670978F87D06931| |C6729F4B24FF18EF27EE35E709C19F431555ACF87F57CE86302FB4FA09F078449CC| |77F280CFE63F04FF8047CCC002F8857BC991770ADE2978A77F83F04EC33BF389384| |4C48CF292BFF19677768B1054C5E9C7E013F02933F88C1983F7276D1F8237F48D7B| |99DBE3DC1CDECFDC06EF17FECEF930BE89BF0E2122F046AEF3BAD1087BA2B85BD10| |CF60BB137768BBDFB14C631CF38E6398F39CE63AE3FA82681F79378CEBE24EE6812| |3D25D163EB75E18E0A816FC0D7D69AE1CE7C931E91E852925DCAD92EE55C97B2D25| |2708B858DBB5955FFFF2B08E9E5CE6D2EBAEDE866DF4E7978648CF3076DCD22037C| |CA896B98C855694EF157A72FC4BEC3B626E516FEB91E31FF016185DD05| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Doomguide2005 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, fitzsimmons said: <snip> Pop stone cages before stalagmites otherwise they'll go flying. <snip> Curious, they shouldn't go flying, the power has no knock*. Stagger around some perhaps ... cages is probably a good idea anyway but I'd probably use it after my alpha.
fitzsimmons Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 17 minutes ago, Doomguide2005 said: Curious, they shouldn't go flying, the power has no knock*. Stagger around some perhaps ... cages is probably a good idea anyway but I'd probably use it after my alpha. For my build only Doom... for my build only. To get the ranged defense I went 6 slot with stupefy. It has a KB proc in it. 1
Coyote Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Yeah, I love the set bonuses on Stupefy, but turning Stuns into KB powers when you want them as openers is annoying, so I usually use a Controller/Dominator ATO set in there rather than Stupefy, since it also has a Recharge/Ranged Defense combination. And I don't use it in the Holds since I slot them up as damage powers, so putting the set into a Stun works fine for me.
fitzsimmons Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Coyote said: Yeah, I love the set bonuses on Stupefy, but turning Stuns into KB powers when you want them as openers is annoying, so I usually use a Controller/Dominator ATO set in there rather than Stupefy, since it also has a Recharge/Ranged Defense combination. And I don't use it in the Holds since I slot them up as damage powers, so putting the set into a Stun works fine for me. Yep, I don't need it as an opener and at the time I built this, I don't think I was really using a lot of ATOs. One of the best things about this game is there's so many ways to build and play it. The other two builds look very nice too. I typically go with stone cages, stalag, run in and thunderclap then I bring the pain! Anyway, whatever you decide to go with, enjoy it. Or put your spin on your own build. There's no wrong way to eat a Resces or build a toon. Well I guess there is. Don't stick candy up your butt and don't 6 slot brawl. 1 1
Doomguide2005 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 Heck we have multiple builds. Use them --> team build, chaos build, herdicane build, stunning build, ranged build, melee build. More variety of builds types than build slots ... no wonder I got altitis.
Fletch42 Posted June 21, 2020 Author Posted June 21, 2020 Great advice everyone....really appreciate it. I think my epic will be stone....just fits the concept. Although I do hear good things about the set so its a win win.
Seigmoraig Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 8 hours ago, Doomguide2005 said: Heck we have multiple builds. Use them --> team build, chaos build, herdicane build, stunning build, ranged build, melee build. More variety of builds types than build slots ... no wonder I got altitis You need to be really committed to the character for that though because you need to rebuy all the enhancements for your second build. At that point, I rather just roll another character and get it slotted
Doomguide2005 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Seigmoraig said: You need to be really committed to the character for that though because you need to rebuy all the enhancements for your second build. At that point, I rather just roll another character and get it slotted I get that, but either way it's another set of enhancements and the expense. And we are talking a level 50 looking to invest, at least in this case, into a build. That implies a certain level of commitment right there. And the 2nd+ builds don't require full IO sets either ... unless of course they are enjoying it enough to make the investment. Edited June 21, 2020 by Doomguide2005 Added last paragraph
Nightmarer 2 Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 4 hours ago, Fletch42 said: Great advice everyone....really appreciate it. I think my epic will be stone....just fits the concept. Although I do hear good things about the set so its a win win. I think your epic should be fire, so you'll have Earth, Wind and Fire... ... please don't kick me from forums I really had to 2 Being chased by a wasp is the most complete sport practice!
fitzsimmons Posted June 21, 2020 Posted June 21, 2020 2 hours ago, Nightmarer said: I think your epic should be fire, so you'll have Earth, Wind and Fire... ... please don't kick me from forums I really had to I think you get a pass because it's father's day. Unless you're a woman, then it's illegal to use a pun. Up to 6 months in prison and a 10,000 dollar fine.
Fletch42 Posted June 27, 2020 Author Posted June 27, 2020 Earth wind and fire.....lol that's pretty good
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