pixelBlitzer Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 (edited) So, I've been working on an AE arc and I've been playing around with Escorts (IE Allied characters who you need to bring to a destination to complete them as an objective), and I've noticed what I believe to be a bug. Any escort who I place in a mission that doesn't have enemies surrounding them (either by setting the enemy group to None Selected or Empty) before you walk up to them will spawn and count as completed without needing to be escorted to their destination. I've tried this both on escorts who want to go to go to the mission entrance, and escorts who want to go to collectables-- in both instances they spawn and count as completed before I even approach them, breaking the sequence of my missions. When I change the escort to have enemies guarding them when they spawn, the game waits for them to get to their destination before counting the objective as completed and triggering whatever comes next, whether it be mission completion or another objective linked to it. I can handwave an in-plot excuse to have these escorts need to be freed from an enemy first, but it does limit what you can do with escorts a teeny bit. Has anyone else run into this issue and/or have a workaround other than putting baddies around my poor escorts? Edited February 15, 2021 by pixelBlitzer clarification Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
huang3721 Posted February 15, 2021 Share Posted February 15, 2021 I have stumbled upon this bug, but I haven't found any workaround for an ally that: Has no enemies guarding him/her. Need to be escorted to a certain point. Is a non-optional mission objective. If I need points 1 & 2, I set the mission objective to optional. If I only need point 1, I use Ally Mission instead of Escort Mission. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pixelBlitzer Posted February 15, 2021 Author Share Posted February 15, 2021 That's super interesting. I wonder if I can trick the sequence into working by making an important NPC optional but tying them to a non-optional collection or something. Thanks for the tip! 🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ankylosaur Posted February 18, 2021 Share Posted February 18, 2021 It's a known thing - though I think it has always been that way so while quirky I just count it as one of the many things in AE you learn to work with. 🙂 As my workaround I tend to mention that the person is in the mission waiting for them either in the send off text, the mission entry pop-up or both. AE Arcs: Search for @Ankylosaur * denotes Dev's Choice Adventures in Lit: Adventures in Wonderland - 25-54* | Adventures in Oz - 40-54 | Adventures in Neverland - 45-54 Notable One-offs: Rularularian - 41-54* | The Serpent Beyond the Horizon - 46-52* | Robolution - 25-34* | The Genesis & Geneticists of The Coming Hamiggedon - 41-54* | Spycraft and Spidermen - 40-47 | Return to Faultline - 40-54 Post-Praetoria Series: All That Glitters: Gold Brickers & Mooks - 9 Arcs | All That Glimmers: First Warders & Mu - 9 Arcs | All That Glints: The Awakened & Council - 3 Arcs | All That Glows: Nictus & 5th Column - 3 Arcs* | All That Gleams: Epilogue (Neo Tokyo) - 1 Arc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailcoat Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I'm having the same kind of problem, except my Escort has some enemies. After you rescue her, I want the Boss to spawn and for her to follow you and fight. I tried setting up a collection (the Plot Device that summons the Boss), with the condition that it becomes active "after <character> is rescued" but I still get an error. I wasn't sure if the "rescued" option meant that the objective completed when the player frees the ally, or after the player guides the NPC to the destination. What happens if you just ignore the warning? Can you still publish? Once my ally gets to the objective (the 'Plot Device") and I activate it, she just kind of stays in one place despite having set her to "follow." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Darmian Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 I've spoofed this by having an escort get to the collection glowie/whatever, state that they have to do something and then run off. Then respawn the same character a little later as an ally after doing whatever they had to do. You just need an intermediate objective to trigger the ally spawn for the player to handle otherwise you may get both versions on the map together. The escort needs to reach an exit before the next trigger, so you need to slow the player down enough for that to happen in the right sequence. AE SFMA Arcs: The Meteors (Arc id 42079) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part One. (Arc id 26756) X | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Two. (Arc id 26952) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Three. (Arc id 27233) Darker Deeds: Part One (Arc id 28374) | Darker Deeds: Part Two. (Arc id 28536) | Darker Deeds: Part Three. (Arc id 29252) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part One (Arc id 29891) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Two (Arc id 30210) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Three (Arc id 30560) | Bridge of Forever ( Arc id 36642) | The Cassini Division (Arc id 37104) X | The House of Gaunt Saints (Arc id 37489) X | The Spark of the Blind (Arc id 40403) | Damnatio Memoriae (Arc id 41140) X | The Eve of War (Arc id 41583) X | Spirals: Part One. (Arc id 55109) | Spirals: Part Two. (Arc id 55358) | Spirals: Part Three. (Arc id 57197) I Sing of Arms and the Man (Arc id 42617) | Three Sisters (Arc id 43013) (Pre War Praetorian Loyalist. Pre War Praetorian Resistance. Pre ITF Cimerora. Post ITF Cimerora. X = Dev Choice/Hall of Fame ) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tailcoat Posted June 6, 2021 Share Posted June 6, 2021 6 hours ago, Darmian said: I've spoofed this by having an escort get to the collection glowie/whatever, state that they have to do something and then run off. Then respawn the same character a little later as an ally after doing whatever they had to do. You just need an intermediate objective to trigger the ally spawn for the player to handle otherwise you may get both versions on the map together. The escort needs to reach an exit before the next trigger, so you need to slow the player down enough for that to happen in the right sequence. I tried that too, but I was using a map with a portal and she just hung out at the portal instead of using the "door" so I guess I'll have to use a map with a real door. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PresidentDSG Posted June 7, 2021 Share Posted June 7, 2021 I don't think it's necessarily a bug, but rather just a quirk of how the game counts objectives as completed. Collecting the ally isn't really objective- Removing the enemies around him is. So if there's no enemies to remove, congratulations! Objective's already done. You're amazing. The only real thing you can do about it is just relent and give them enemies for the player to fight. You can play with animations to make it look like the escort/ally is fighting rather than captured- Animations like the various gun shooting ones are good for this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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