Alchemystic Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I wanna know in what universe MMOs are built for solo play 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lazarillo Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Tyrannical said: I wanna know in what universe MMOs are built for solo play Same universe where people don't act in character in RPGs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 All classes can solo even controllers. Fire/kin controller used to be great soloers/farmers. But they are not made for solo play really. Scrappers are dps in teams but are still great soloers. I am kinda with @Tyrannical . I think classes should be built for teams and if they are great soloers then that is just a bonus. Dps classes quite often make the best soloers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 One thing i have learnt from this thread is how different peoples views are on how the Sentinel should be. I think the developers have a massive job in pleasing everyone lol, if they ever rework the Sentinel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemystic Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 27 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Ability to start TF/SF solo? Check. Archetypes designed specifically for the ability to dish out damage while surviving incoming damage with no external assistance? Check. No archetype was ever designed with solo play in mind, because soloing wasn't viable until the invention system was introduced. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 11 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: But by the argument that an MMO is only for teaming and no consideration should be given to soloing, then the developers never imagined anything would solo. And yet, as you say, everything can solo. So which is it? I just think some classes are naturally better at it. The classes with armour sets or strong CC usually. Soloing is killing and not being killed. Primarily classes were built for teams and some were given extra help for those times when they could not get a team or just wanted a slower pace on their own, at the request of the players. Defenders/controllers etc got damage buffs. But if they were to be built with soloing a big consideration i think they would have been built quite different. An empath defender can solo though, just not as well as others. Are classes all to be equal in soloing? Edited December 28, 2021 by Gobbledegook 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 All classes can solo to varying degrees so i don't know what the problem is really lol. Sentinels will be good soloers as they have damage and armour. Are they the best at it? No lol, but they aren't the worst either. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Master GM Flints Posted December 28, 2021 Game Master Share Posted December 28, 2021 This thread is going wildly off-topic towards confrontational, and needs to resume to actual discussion rather than antagonising. That said, "How do we fix sentinels?" Gets discussed a lot, I'm personally on my 11th Ice Armour Sentinel and having a blast. I really want to see Sentinels not be so far at the bottom of the pack. Further off-topic replies or replies against the code of conduct will be removed. 3 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 31 minutes ago, Gobbledegook said: Are classes all to be equal in soloing? Are all classes to be equal in teaming? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora_Girl Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 38 minutes ago, Tyrannical said: No archetype was ever designed with solo play in mind, because soloing wasn't viable until the invention system was introduced. Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Scrappers existed before IOs, I mean I'm not *that* old yet. 1 1 @Aurora Girl - Excelsior - BSOD Aurora Girl (Blaster)- Energy/Atomic, Queen of Faceplants and former Mayor of Pinnacle Server Straye (Brute)- Savage/SR, Survivor of +4 ITF Nictus Crystals and Bobcat's Bane Aurora Snow (Corruptor) - Ice/Cold, AV Humiliator Terraflux (Controller) - Earth/Rad, Bass Exploder Spynerette (Arachnos Soldier) - Night Widow, Super Spy of Sneakiness and Stabbing Snowberrie (Tank) - Ice/Spines, Disco Ball and Lady of Winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora_Girl Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Did nobody see my "add taunt to the blasts" thing? I feel like I was really on to something there. 1 @Aurora Girl - Excelsior - BSOD Aurora Girl (Blaster)- Energy/Atomic, Queen of Faceplants and former Mayor of Pinnacle Server Straye (Brute)- Savage/SR, Survivor of +4 ITF Nictus Crystals and Bobcat's Bane Aurora Snow (Corruptor) - Ice/Cold, AV Humiliator Terraflux (Controller) - Earth/Rad, Bass Exploder Spynerette (Arachnos Soldier) - Night Widow, Super Spy of Sneakiness and Stabbing Snowberrie (Tank) - Ice/Spines, Disco Ball and Lady of Winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 (edited) 1 minute ago, Aurora_Girl said: Did nobody see my "add taunt to the blasts" thing? I feel like I was really on to something there. I saw it. It would be certainly helpful to a team when teaming. Edit: And maybe for fleeing AVs. I still don't grok what's making them rabbit so hard these days. Edited December 28, 2021 by Bill Z Bubba Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A Cat Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 I still vote for more damage. I just want the scrapper/stalker experience I love so much, but lazy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Aurora_Girl Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 1 minute ago, Bill Z Bubba said: I saw it. It would be certainly helpful to a team when teaming. Edit: And maybe for fleeing AVs. I still don't grok what's making them rabbit so hard these days. Exactly! Provides utility to sents when teaming they don't currently have, and can only improve the soloing adventure. @Aurora Girl - Excelsior - BSOD Aurora Girl (Blaster)- Energy/Atomic, Queen of Faceplants and former Mayor of Pinnacle Server Straye (Brute)- Savage/SR, Survivor of +4 ITF Nictus Crystals and Bobcat's Bane Aurora Snow (Corruptor) - Ice/Cold, AV Humiliator Terraflux (Controller) - Earth/Rad, Bass Exploder Spynerette (Arachnos Soldier) - Night Widow, Super Spy of Sneakiness and Stabbing Snowberrie (Tank) - Ice/Spines, Disco Ball and Lady of Winter Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemystic Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 Just now, Aurora_Girl said: Uhmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Scrappers existed before IOs, I mean I'm not *that* old yet. Sure, but soloing usually suggests you can tackle any and all content on your own, which wasn't the case back then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 3 minutes ago, Aurora_Girl said: Did nobody see my "add taunt to the blasts" thing? I feel like I was really on to something there. Yes i saw it and all ideas are good. Hopefully the developers will consider all of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gobbledigook Posted December 28, 2021 Share Posted December 28, 2021 10 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Are all classes to be equal in teaming? Most are in their given roles. A corruptor gains more damage in exchange for some support etc. Sometimes some classes/skills are underpowered or overpowered and they get tweaked at some point. I feel the sentinel is not equal in a team though. They are slightly under par which should be addressed. They can solo though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Game Master GM Flints Posted December 28, 2021 Game Master Share Posted December 28, 2021 Thread has gone off-topic and has been locked. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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