Syant Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 Been playing around with my staff/ice brute and man what a aggro hog. But it seem this combo is not used a lot was wonder why and if some might have a good build lay out I can take a look at please. I know ice can be tricky and a pain to level but some insight and help would be great.
Erratic1 Posted June 8, 2022 Posted June 8, 2022 I think the prevailing wisdom is that Staff is lackluster as goes damage and Ice probably draws less attention because people dislike its visual effects. Still, I play from time to time with a guy who has multiple Staff/Bios (Brutes, Scrappers, and Tankers) and he seem to churn out nice damage. I do not have a build lying around but if I get a moment or two (depending on work) I may try to toss a quickie together at some point.
Syant Posted June 20, 2022 Author Posted June 20, 2022 Any good idea yet here power pools i think just need to slot out and set out. This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 49 Magic BrutePrimary Power Set: Staff FightingSecondary Power Set: Ice ArmorPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Mercurial Blow -- Empty(A)Level 1: Frozen Armor -- Empty(A)Level 2: Guarded Spin -- Empty(A)Level 4: Hoarfrost -- Empty(A)Level 6: Eye of the Storm -- Empty(A)Level 8: Staff Mastery Level 10: Wet Ice -- Empty(A)Level 12: Chilling Embrace -- Empty(A)Level 14: Hasten -- Empty(A)Level 16: Glacial Armor -- Empty(A)Level 18: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 20: Energy Absorption -- Empty(A)Level 22: Tough -- Empty(A)Level 24: Weave -- Empty(A)Level 26: Innocuous Strikes -- Empty(A)Level 28: Permafrost -- Empty(A)Level 30: Super Speed -- Empty(A)Level 32: Sky Splitter -- Empty(A)Level 35: Icicles -- Empty(A)Level 38: Superior Conditioning -- Empty(A)Level 41: Physical Perfection -- Empty(A)Level 44: Maneuvers -- Empty(A)Level 47: Assault -- Empty(A)Level 49: Victory Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Fury Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 1: Health -- Empty(A)Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 1: Stamina -- Empty(A)Level 1: Combo Level 1 Level 1: Combo Level 2 Level 1: Combo Level 3 Level 8: Form of the Body Level 8: Form of the Mind Level 8: Form of the Soul Level 30: Speed Phase ------------
fancy ketchup Posted June 20, 2022 Posted June 20, 2022 I've been told by some that ice is avoided by brutes due to slows (causing less fury). I've had some fun playing one dispite this.. so what if it kills slightly slower if you enjoy it. but it may be more useful on a tank.. and I get that.
Errants Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 5 hours ago, fancy ketchup said: I've been told by some that ice is avoided by brutes due to slows (causing less fury). I've had some fun playing one dispite this.. so what if it kills slightly slower if you enjoy it. but it may be more useful on a tank.. and I get that. Fury builds by attacking and being attacked. */Ice allows for +End... allows for more attacking. As long as the fury builds, who care where it comes from? I need to roll an */Ice brute some time. Death is the best debuff.
fancy ketchup Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 (edited) 6 hours ago, Errants said: Fury builds by attacking and being attacked. */Ice allows for +End... allows for more attacking. I disagree to some extent* on the end, I feel like attack rate would be a better way to bring up your fury if you're getting hit at a slower rate. *That being said I like to take care of any end issues I have as quickly as possible because I hate running out. Edited June 21, 2022 by fancy ketchup
Hjarki Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 58 minutes ago, fancy ketchup said: I disagree to some extent* on the end, I feel like attack rate would be a better way to bring up your fury if you're getting hit at a slower rate. *That being said I like to take care of any end issues I have as quickly as possible because I hate running out. I don't know that anyone has rigorously clocked the rate of Fury gain, but most of the time a Brute reaches near-cap in short order and them remains there indefinitely just from their own attacks. I certainly wouldn't be concerned about the fact that certain armor sets minimize the number of times Brutes get hit from the standpoint of Fury generation. 1
fancy ketchup Posted June 21, 2022 Posted June 21, 2022 9 minutes ago, Hjarki said: I don't know that anyone has rigorously clocked the rate of Fury gain, but most of the time a Brute reaches near-cap in short order and them remains there indefinitely just from their own attacks. I certainly wouldn't be concerned about the fact that certain armor sets minimize the number of times Brutes get hit from the standpoint of Fury generation.
Syant Posted June 22, 2022 Author Posted June 22, 2022 Still looking for some build pointers Never been good with defense power sets. I kind of out line a power pick set up that I think maybe good mix just need help slotting and setting it out.
Zepp Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 One thing that you might want to consider is running Staff without Eye of the Storm or Sky Splitter. I have found that I get more benefit for extended conflicts maintaining perfection rather than spending it on "finisher" attacks. Just a thought. With Ice Armor, it is the OG layer build. Basically, rather than maxing out resist, defense, or regen, it is designed to find the balance between the three. It can be extremely powerful, but you are going to have to maintain your attacks so that you maintain fury as mobs won't feed your fury as much as other armors. Archetype Concept Compilation -- Powerset Concept Compilations: Assault Melee -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- The Great Archetype Concept Battle: Final Round -------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Archetype Proposal Amalgamation
Erratic1 Posted June 23, 2022 Posted June 23, 2022 On 6/21/2022 at 10:27 PM, Syant said: Still looking for some build pointers Never been good with defense power sets. I kind of out line a power pick set up that I think maybe good mix just need help slotting and setting it out. Would I suggest the following? No...probably not. Bu t it might give you some idea: | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1457;692;1384;HEX;| |78DA65945B6F1241148067974504165A2C2D85B6B6D00BA5176CFD055E4A13AB245| |8125F09A1039250208049FB2FB4C6F8A66DBDEBCFF0D9BB51FF8105B9B4EA4B4DCC| |7A76CE9940EC24BBDFCE3973E6DC6636BEB5A267B3AB1798E2BC5C4857ABA94B955| |B356E4B66F2BC98E11606C3064F408853715EE03C9AACA5B3D9D46A3E77B3962FE6| |7CA85AE1595EACF2E8950C4F5DAC6C962ACC9128950AD16499F30D97F894165E318| |B6D957925BFC98BB5742D5F2A3A7149C15CE38F95F39968ACC82BB9ED543C5DADF1| |CA3606360CB184E1791384976246C70C0B4B00421A53AF13D7915A12B916E92EB6B| |23624B50CCA0EF2D421F10879FA27F117F22D7852C858536E6B42A8DF41BA778877| |91FDF790EFC048D4CE0CCF5257191B03650379A6496C2127A1C0565ACCAC060CF60| |1EC6DE4D4783EC3989D26CC6E260E1EDE039DB2004EF2E0250F5EF230441E9EC10E| |2E9983CB6E153B0C3990C34EA28E0CB8904FC1A84F56ADEF00AB11A823471BC41FC| |8B34D620BF905C2F34863CF2E29F79013FBC447C4C7C8E013E406747840111D33AC| |030D2C69B0496C2127DBC40E7150117C01610F4ACF830E144EB989C74C1464EA0F7| |2E62F918C5568854FB6C2275AF11532F1CBDAF9CDDA99EB9DC8B04E7411DD58BB97| |10C40819A9233E452823BF31BDC831D202CEC6645FC7CEA3F01BB81B97E18FEB985| |BC4859C7313FB88FDC8050FF215B80DC94311A243B1408762810EC5221D0ABB87B1| |69E97EFABE2A7670807056663BFB00858B0F89BBC8737BC47DA40E46F364A4CCEF9| |09276D420CBA85446AF6296CB54EF102897A8DEEAD23C1EEDE5FF38AA31390CF33E| |4053563571A3D7C5FDB876529FD0E485079122442D47F72740AB3A3D2285ADC1571| |82A7003436B9F5C7FD8235219E5E9A03CF5098CF6FB50371AE3A07752EF9D88F131| |887F5721F9D43BF9DC3B793DD7FD4118FF00CFCFF4EF| |-------------------------------------------------------------------|
Syant Posted June 25, 2022 Author Posted June 25, 2022 hmmm I feel like it could be better but I know how i can make it better lol
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