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I've read some posts that Tanker has gotten loved while Brute has gotten nerfed.   I've also read that Tankers can be more damaging than before.

Which do you think is better for Dark/Dark?

Snarky

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I think Dark Dark reaches its ultimate on the Brute.  It is easier to be survivable on the Tank but achievable on the Brute.  Like almost same survivability.  Then there is the fact that the Dark Armor “Tanks” really poorly.  Not in survivability, but in design.  Part of the survivability of Dark is the stealth field.  In survivability Def>Res>Heal.  Dark literally stands this on its head.   No defense or nearly none.  No defenses debuff resistance so worthless to build.  Instead Stealth, two toggles that do crowd control, massive to hit debuffs, and the best heal in the game.   But that stealth, non suppressed stealth.  Bad from a Tanker perspective.  Great on a Brute

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
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Dark Dark Darkitty DarkDarkDark: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- Acc-I(A), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(3), Arm-Dam%(3), Obl-%Dam(5), ScrDrv-Dam%(5), Erd-%Dam(7)
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(11), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(11)
Level 2: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(19), GldArm-3defTpProc(19)
Level 4: Shadow Maul -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(25)
Level 6: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 8: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Dark Regeneration -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(33)
Level 14: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(34), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(34), Rct-ResDam%(34)
Level 16: Siphon Life -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(37)
Level 18: Cloak of Fear -- GlmoftheA-Dam%(A)
Level 20: Touch of Fear -- Acc-I(A)
Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(39), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(40), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42)
Level 32: Soul Transfer -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(42), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(43), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(43), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(43), Obl-%Dam(45)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(45), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(45), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(46), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(46)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Hct-Acc/Rchg(48), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hct-Dam%(50), GldStr-%Dam(50)
Level 41: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Physical Perfection -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 49: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13), Mrc-Rcvry+(13)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.2.17
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Dark Dark Darkitty DarkDarkDark: Level 50 Magic Tanker
Primary Power Set: Dark Armor
Secondary Power Set: Dark Melee
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Energy Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Death Shroud -- Acc-I(A), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(3), Arm-Dam%(3), Obl-%Dam(5), ScrDrv-Dam%(5), Erd-%Dam(7)
Level 1: Shadow Punch -- SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(A), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(9), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(11), SprBlsCol-Rchg/HoldProc(11)
Level 2: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(15), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(19), GldArm-3defTpProc(19)
Level 4: Shadow Maul -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(21), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(23), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(23), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(25)
Level 6: Murky Cloud -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(25), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(27), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(27)
Level 8: Obsidian Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(29), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(29), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)
Level 10: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 12: Dark Regeneration -- SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg(A), SprGntFis-Dmg/Rchg(31), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), SprGntFis-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(33), SprGntFis-Rchg/+Absorb(33)
Level 14: Cloak of Darkness -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(34), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(34), Rct-ResDam%(34)
Level 16: Siphon Life -- SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMghoft-Dmg/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), SprMghoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprMghoft-Rchg/Res%(37)
Level 18: Cloak of Fear -- GlmoftheA-Dam%(A)
Level 20: Touch of Fear -- Acc-I(A)
Level 22: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(39), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39)
Level 26: Oppressive Gloom -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)
Level 28: Soul Drain -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(40), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(42)
Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42)
Level 32: Soul Transfer -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(42), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(43), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(43), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(43), Obl-%Dam(45)
Level 35: Dark Consumption -- ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(A), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(45), ScrDrv-Dmg/Rchg(45), ScrDrv-Acc/Rchg(46), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(46)
Level 38: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dmg/Rchg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Hct-Acc/Rchg(48), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Hct-Dam%(50), GldStr-%Dam(50)
Level 41: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50)
Level 44: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 47: Physical Perfection -- Prv-Absorb%(A)
Level 49: Hover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Gauntlet
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13), Mrc-Rcvry+(13)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface
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I might use this once I can take a look at it. I haven't played mine in a long time and since there has been updates to the powers it would be a great time to update the build.

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Dying Eagle

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@Snarky

Found this thread but I’m not sure if you’re still around 2 years later… 

You mentioned that stealth was good on a brute but not on a tanker. I was wondering what is the advantage of stealth to a brute? And why is it not good on a tanker? 

Snarky

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1 hour ago, Dying Eagle said:

@Snarky

Found this thread but I’m not sure if you’re still around 2 years later… 

You mentioned that stealth was good on a brute but not on a tanker. I was wondering what is the advantage of stealth to a brute? And why is it not good on a tanker? 

Well i had been slumbering in my coffin.  But since you woke me up… 

 

My favorite Tanker is an invulnerability/dark. Damned near unkillable.  But one year for winter i made an ice/ice theme tank.  It was insane how easy it was to tank, because everyone in the room hated him.  It was like people were telling people a hundred feet away to swarm the tank.  At least it felt that way. Lot of agro.  A lot.  
 

Dark Armor is stronger on a Tank. No doubt.  And the AoE increase is nice on Dark/Dark.  Very nice.  But since Dark Armor uses non suppressed stealth as a survival trick it acts the OPPOSITE of ice armor. Making it, in my mind, just more work to tank with.  Because i am a lazy old vampire.  

Dying Eagle

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Thanks for waking from your slumber to answer this haha. I see you’re still active because I saw you reply to other active threads recently. You are very helpful! 

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Hyperstrike

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8 hours ago, Snarky said:

Well i had been slumbering in my coffin.  But since you woke me up… 

 

My favorite Tanker is an invulnerability/dark. Damned near unkillable.  But one year for winter i made an ice/ice theme tank.  It was insane how easy it was to tank, because everyone in the room hated him.  It was like people were telling people a hundred feet away to swarm the tank.  At least it felt that way. Lot of agro.  A lot.  
 

Dark Armor is stronger on a Tank. No doubt.  And the AoE increase is nice on Dark/Dark.  Very nice.  But since Dark Armor uses non suppressed stealth as a survival trick it acts the OPPOSITE of ice armor. Making it, in my mind, just more work to tank with.  Because i am a lazy old vampire.  


And entire map full of aggroed "chase your ass down and kill you PAINFULLY!" enemies.



And that's just you walking into the map!

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If you want to be godlike, pick anything.

If you want to be GOD, pick a TANK!

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