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So i've finally decided to shelve my DM/Elec brute that I loved so much on live to a scrapper. He was a buzzsaw build back prior to the proc changes, but since that's no longer an option I'm going to try him with tasty crits instead. I lookd in the Pylon thread but couldn't find a build idea, anyone run one that could share some insight?

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I have to admit, my first instinct was that it didn't sound like an optimal pairing.  You are really doubling up on loads of endurance from everything Electric and Dark Consumption.  The -to hit from Dark Melee isn't really enough to cover all the defense shortcomings of the Electric secondary.  And yet...

 

You can do some really funky things with a build like this with some procs.  I'm gonna take a hard look tomorrow.

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Electric Armor is much better on brutes due to the higher resist cap. You can easily cap S/L/E. 

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16 hours ago, Uun said:

Electric Armor is much better on brutes due to the higher resist cap. You can easily cap S/L/E. 

Yeah my brute was super tough, but now the buzzsaw gimmick doesn't work so I was more interested in damage potential, unless the scrapper is going to be gimped

 

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On 9/17/2022 at 8:16 PM, Yomo Kimyata said:

I have to admit, my first instinct was that it didn't sound like an optimal pairing.  You are really doubling up on loads of endurance from everything Electric and Dark Consumption.  The -to hit from Dark Melee isn't really enough to cover all the defense shortcomings of the Electric secondary.  And yet...

 

You can do some really funky things with a build like this with some procs.  I'm gonna take a hard look tomorrow.

The brute never had endo issues from mid-30's on, if I remember correctly. And the way it worked pre-ED was you mainly cycled the first two attacks. They recharged so quickly, with the procs not being affected by recharge negatively, he really burned down enemies quickly

 

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Here's a take for you. I'll elaborate on my thought process below.

 

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I am the night, I am Battery: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus
  • (15) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge
  • (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage

Level 1: Charged Armor

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (5) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 2: Shadow Maul

  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (43) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (45) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (45) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 4: Conductive Shield

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (31) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 6: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (9) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (13) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc
  • (34) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
  • (34) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 10: Static Shield

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (13) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance

Level 12: Super Jump

  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 14: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (15) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 16: Grounded

  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (17) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  • (17) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 18: Boxing

  • (A) Empty

Level 20: Energize

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  • (21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (23) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal

Level 22: Tough

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (33) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 24: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge

Level 26: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (27) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (29) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (29) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge

Level 28: Lightning Reflexes

  • (A) Run Speed IO

Level 30: Touch of Fear

  • (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (46) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
  • (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (40) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge

Level 35: Dark Consumption

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (40) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (42) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (43) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 38: Moonbeam

  • (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime
  • (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 41: Shadow Meld

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (42) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 47: Tactics

  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
  • (48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  • (48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff

Level 49: Power Sink

  • (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge

Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Empty

Level 1: Critical Hit 


Level 1: Sprint
  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Swift
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Health
  • (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  • (3) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (3) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 1: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Stamina
  • (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
  • (7) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
  • (9) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge
Level 12: Double Jump 

Level 49: Quick Form 
Level 50: Spiritual Radial Paragon 
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@Yomo Kimyata is right that this can get pretty funky with procs, but I also wanted to make sure you would be as safe as possible while still pumping out huge damage. To this extent, I did not build up enough DEF to make you invincible as I did build up just enough that by clicking Shadow Meld, you will essentially be able to soak up alphas with no problem. IMO, this is something Elec Armor struggles with, as Energize is on a loooong cooldown for what it gives you.

 

Endurance not a problem? Great, now you can take Dark Consumption anyway and proc it the hell out to shore up your mediocre AoE damage. Hit Soul Drain before this, proc Critical Strikes, and you're looking at a pretty hefty pseudo-nuke that also gives you End back as a bonus!

 

Some other tidbits in my build:

-Getting slowed is for chumps!

-Tactics is our secret maneuver! The proc rate for Gaussian's increases for each target getting buffed by Tactics. This includes MM pets! Have teammates wondering how your spike damage is so high!

-Alpha slot is very flexible. For safety, I recommend Spiritual Core, as it will make Energize heal better, and make all of your key powers come back way quicker. Or, you can always go Musculature Radial if you want bigger orange numbers. Radial, because it also makes you run fast, and that's funny.

 

 

Hope this helps!

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On 9/25/2022 at 1:49 AM, Spaghetti Betty said:

Here's a take for you. I'll elaborate on my thought process below.

 

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https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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I am the night, I am Battery: Level 50 Magic Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite

  • (A) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Recharge/Critical Hit Bonus
  • (15) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge
  • (19) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (25) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Damage/Recharge
  • (31) Superior Scrapper's Strike - Accuracy/Damage

Level 1: Charged Armor

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (5) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (5) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (7) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 2: Shadow Maul

  • (A) Eradication - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (43) Eradication - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (43) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (45) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (45) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 4: Conductive Shield

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (31) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (31) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 6: Combat Jumping

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (9) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
  • (13) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage

Level 8: Siphon Life

  • (A) Superior Critical Strikes - RechargeTime/+50% Crit Proc
  • (34) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
  • (34) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage
  • (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (36) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 10: Static Shield

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (11) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (13) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance

Level 12: Super Jump

  • (A) Winter's Gift - Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 14: Hasten

  • (A) Recharge Reduction IO
  • (15) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 16: Grounded

  • (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3%
  • (17) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All)
  • (17) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP

Level 18: Boxing

  • (A) Empty

Level 20: Energize

  • (A) Preventive Medicine - Chance for +Absorb
  • (21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
  • (21) Preventive Medicine - Heal/RechargeTime
  • (23) Preventive Medicine - Endurance/RechargeTime
  • (23) Preventive Medicine - Heal/Endurance
  • (25) Preventive Medicine - Heal

Level 22: Tough

  • (A) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance
  • (33) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance
  • (33) Unbreakable Guard - RechargeTime/Resistance
  • (34) Unbreakable Guard - Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 24: Weave

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (45) Luck of the Gambler - Defense
  • (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance
  • (46) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Recharge

Level 26: Soul Drain

  • (A) Armageddon - Damage
  • (27) Armageddon - Damage/Endurance
  • (27) Armageddon - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (29) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (29) Armageddon - Damage/Recharge

Level 28: Lightning Reflexes

  • (A) Run Speed IO

Level 30: Touch of Fear

  • (A) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (46) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (48) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Recharge
  • (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Damage/Endurance
  • (50) Scirocco's Dervish - Accuracy/Damage

Level 32: Midnight Grasp

  • (A) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative)
  • (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Endurance
  • (37) Hecatomb - Recharge/Accuracy
  • (37) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
  • (40) Hecatomb - Damage/Recharge

Level 35: Dark Consumption

  • (A) Eradication - Chance for Energy Damage
  • (40) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage
  • (42) Scirocco's Dervish - Chance of Damage(Lethal)
  • (42) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End
  • (43) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage

Level 38: Moonbeam

  • (A) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage
  • (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/RechargeTime
  • (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
  • (39) Superior Winter's Bite - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
  • (40) Superior Winter's Bite - Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

Level 41: Shadow Meld

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
  • (42) Recharge Reduction IO

Level 44: Maneuvers

  • (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 47: Tactics

  • (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - Chance for Build Up
  • (48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance
  • (48) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Recharge/Endurance
  • (50) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff

Level 49: Power Sink

  • (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge

Level 1: Brawl

  • (A) Empty

Level 1: Critical Hit 


Level 1: Sprint

  • (A) Empty
Level 2: Rest
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Swift
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Health
  • (A) Panacea - +Hit Points/Endurance
  • (3) Miracle - +Recovery
  • (3) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery
Level 1: Hurdle
  • (A) Empty
Level 1: Stamina
  • (A) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Increased Run Speed
  • (7) Synapse's Shock - EndMod
  • (9) Synapse's Shock - EndMod/Recharge
Level 12: Double Jump 

Level 49: Quick Form 
Level 50: Spiritual Radial Paragon 
------------

 

@Yomo Kimyata is right that this can get pretty funky with procs, but I also wanted to make sure you would be as safe as possible while still pumping out huge damage. To this extent, I did not build up enough DEF to make you invincible as I did build up just enough that by clicking Shadow Meld, you will essentially be able to soak up alphas with no problem. IMO, this is something Elec Armor struggles with, as Energize is on a loooong cooldown for what it gives you.

 

Endurance not a problem? Great, now you can take Dark Consumption anyway and proc it the hell out to shore up your mediocre AoE damage. Hit Soul Drain before this, proc Critical Strikes, and you're looking at a pretty hefty pseudo-nuke that also gives you End back as a bonus!

 

Some other tidbits in my build:

-Getting slowed is for chumps!

-Tactics is our secret maneuver! The proc rate for Gaussian's increases for each target getting buffed by Tactics. This includes MM pets! Have teammates wondering how your spike damage is so high!

-Alpha slot is very flexible. For safety, I recommend Spiritual Core, as it will make Energize heal better, and make all of your key powers come back way quicker. Or, you can always go Musculature Radial if you want bigger orange numbers. Radial, because it also makes you run fast, and that's funny.

 

 

Hope this helps!

Wow that looks great! I didn't realize that about Gaussian's and tactics either! Can't wait to get this one rolling, thank you! Definitely looks better than my brute version

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I really really enjoy Dark Melee and I think Electric Armor is massively under represented/rated. DM pairs well with almost anything, and the PBAOE aura with ELA will help the minimal AOE with DM (btw, you can actually crank out some good AOE with DM if built appropriately). Proc bomb Touch of Fear and slot Soul Drain for damage. You may be really surprised how much these two changes can REALLY add to your AOE output. Doing the same with Dark Consumption, as Soul Drain, and you won't hate life when solo and big packs are a thing. Add in Ball Lightning in Mu Mastery for extra oomph. You CAN resist cap Electric Armor to a LOT of different types, but this is capped at 75% on a scrapper compared to the 90% on a tanker/brute. Yeah, it is definitely noticeable. Also, Electric Armor on a scrapper does NOT have a taunt aura. This one is a deal breaker for me personally, but not for others. Take that as you will.

 

I'd honestly be surprised you'd have End Issues. And Electric Armor has some really good Debuff Resistance baked in to the armor.

 

On a static target Electric Armor was king of ST DPS before Bio Armor hit the scene (well, and Fire Armor for scrappers too). It's moved down the list some since Bio, Stone, and Fire were options, but damn. Electric Armor is a really good option.

 

I'm of the opinion that Muscle > everything else for Alpha on a DPS oriented class like a scrapper, but that is up to preference. Muscle adds a LOT of damage. I get confused when people say they are building their scrap/stalk/blaster for damage and refuse to use Muscle Alpha.

 

I was never a fan of buzzsaw builds and my data collection backed that up. You said you were in the Pylon Thread, so you can see I'm decently active there. I'd also peruse the Pylon Spreadsheet when you get a chance.

 

Not sure how similar to how you would build these are for you, but might give some ideas. One is with Ball Lightning and the other is with Shadow Meld. Both are SLFCE resist capped. Obviously, the one with Shadow Meld is tougher to kill.

 

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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(37), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), TchofDth-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(15), UnbGrd-ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 2: Lightning Field -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Arm-Dmg(7), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(9), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(19)
Level 4: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 6: Touch of Fear -- Acc-I(A), CldSns-%Dam(40), GlmoftheA-Dam%(43), Erd-%Dam(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(46), Obl-%Dam(47)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Siphon Life -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(11), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(19)
Level 12: Static Shield -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Ags-ResDam(13), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Grounded -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Dmg(25), Obl-Acc/Rchg(25), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(49)
Level 20: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(21), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(21), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(36)
Level 22: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(47), ShlWal-Def(48), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(48)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(39), Rct-ResDam%(39)
Level 41: Moonbeam -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Dcm-Build%(43)
Level 44: Shadow Meld -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Power Surge -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(3)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(45)
Level 18: Double Jump
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 49: Quick Form
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Ball Lightning Build



This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(37), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), TchofDth-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37)
Level 2: Lightning Field -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Arm-Dmg(7), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(9), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(19)
Level 4: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7)
Level 6: Touch of Fear -- Acc-I(A), CldSns-%Dam(40), GlmoftheA-Dam%(43), Erd-%Dam(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(46), Obl-%Dam(47)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Siphon Life -- GldStr-%Dam(A), GldStr-Acc/Dmg(11), GldStr-Dam/Rech(11), GldStr-Dam/End/Rech(17), GldStr-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(17), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(19)
Level 12: Static Shield -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Ags-ResDam(13)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Grounded -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Dmg(25), Obl-Acc/Rchg(25), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(49)
Level 20: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(21), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(21), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(36)
Level 22: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(47), ShlWal-Def(48), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(48)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(39), Rct-ResDam%(39)
Level 41: Zapp -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Dcm-Build%(43)
Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Dmg(45), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Power Surge -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(3)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 49: Quick Form
Level 18: Double Jump
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
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The SM one personally looks pretty rock solid to me. Has a higher recharge too, and the Psi resist is at 60, instead of 50 with the other one. I can vouch from experience with my DM/BIO/MU that I do NOT miss Dark Consumption. It does have a Proc Bombed DNA Siphon in liu of though. Pretty sure if I spent more time on the DM/ELA/MU one I could really tighten it up, but the DM/ELA/SOUL was pretty darn easy.

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On 9/26/2022 at 3:20 PM, SomeGuy said:

I really really enjoy Dark Melee and I think Electric Armor is massively under represented/rated. DM pairs well with almost anything, and the PBAOE aura with ELA will help the minimal AOE with DM (btw, you can actually crank out some good AOE with DM if built appropriately). Proc bomb Touch of Fear and slot Soul Drain for damage. You may be really surprised how much these two changes can REALLY add to your AOE output. Doing the same with Dark Consumption, as Soul Drain, and you won't hate life when solo and big packs are a thing. Add in Ball Lightning in Mu Mastery for extra oomph. You CAN resist cap Electric Armor to a LOT of different types, but this is capped at 75% on a scrapper compared to the 90% on a tanker/brute. Yeah, it is definitely noticeable. Also, Electric Armor on a scrapper does NOT have a taunt aura. This one is a deal breaker for me personally, but not for others. Take that as you will.

 

I'd honestly be surprised you'd have End Issues. And Electric Armor has some really good Debuff Resistance baked in to the armor.

 

On a static target Electric Armor was king of ST DPS before Bio Armor hit the scene (well, and Fire Armor for scrappers too). It's moved down the list some since Bio, Stone, and Fire were options, but damn. Electric Armor is a really good option.

 

I'm of the opinion that Muscle > everything else for Alpha on a DPS oriented class like a scrapper, but that is up to preference. Muscle adds a LOT of damage. I get confused when people say they are building their scrap/stalk/blaster for damage and refuse to use Muscle Alpha.

 

I was never a fan of buzzsaw builds and my data collection backed that up. You said you were in the Pylon Thread, so you can see I'm decently active there. I'd also peruse the Pylon Spreadsheet when you get a chance.

 

Not sure how similar to how you would build these are for you, but might give some ideas. One is with Ball Lightning and the other is with Shadow Meld. Both are SLFCE resist capped. Obviously, the one with Shadow Meld is tougher to kill.

 

Shadow Meld Build

 

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

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Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(37), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), TchofDth-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(15), UnbGrd-ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 2: Lightning Field -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Arm-Dmg(7), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(9), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(19)
Level 4: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(46)
Level 6: Touch of Fear -- Acc-I(A), CldSns-%Dam(40), GlmoftheA-Dam%(43), Erd-%Dam(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(46), Obl-%Dam(47)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Siphon Life -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(A), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(11), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(19)
Level 12: Static Shield -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Ags-ResDam(13), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Grounded -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Dmg(25), Obl-Acc/Rchg(25), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(49)
Level 20: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(21), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(21), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(36)
Level 22: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(47), ShlWal-Def(48), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(48)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(39), Rct-ResDam%(39)
Level 41: Moonbeam -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Dcm-Build%(43)
Level 44: Shadow Meld -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Power Surge -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(3)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PwrTrns-+Heal(45)
Level 18: Double Jump
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
Level 49: Quick Form
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Ball Lightning Build

 

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This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5
https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn

Click this DataLink to open the build!

Level 50 Technology Scrapper
Primary Power Set: Dark Melee
Secondary Power Set: Electric Armor
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leadership
Ancillary Pool: Mu Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Smite -- SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(A), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg(37), SprBlsCol-Dmg/EndRdx(37), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprBlsCol-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), TchofDth-Dam%(40)
Level 1: Charged Armor -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(37)
Level 2: Lightning Field -- Arm-Dam%(A), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Arm-Dmg(7), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(9), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(19)
Level 4: Conductive Shield -- UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(5), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(5), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(7)
Level 6: Touch of Fear -- Acc-I(A), CldSns-%Dam(40), GlmoftheA-Dam%(43), Erd-%Dam(46), ScrDrv-Dam%(46), Obl-%Dam(47)
Level 8: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Siphon Life -- GldStr-%Dam(A), GldStr-Acc/Dmg(11), GldStr-Dam/Rech(11), GldStr-Dam/End/Rech(17), GldStr-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(17), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(19)
Level 12: Static Shield -- Ags-Psi/Status(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(13), Ags-ResDam(13)
Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(15)
Level 16: Grounded -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)
Level 18: Dark Consumption -- Obl-%Dam(A), Obl-Dmg(25), Obl-Acc/Rchg(25), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(31), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(49)
Level 20: Energize -- Prv-Absorb%(A), Prv-Heal(21), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(21), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg(23), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(36)
Level 22: Super Jump -- WntGif-ResSlow(A)
Level 24: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 26: Soul Drain -- SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(A), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(27), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29)
Level 28: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)
Level 30: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(31), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(34)
Level 32: Midnight Grasp -- Hct-Dam%(A), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(33), Hct-Acc/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), TchofDth-Dam%(34)
Level 35: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(47), ShlWal-Def(48), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(48)
Level 38: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(39), Rct-ResDam%(39)
Level 41: Zapp -- Apc-Dam%(A), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(42), Apc-Acc/Rchg(42), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(42), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Dcm-Build%(43)
Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(A), Rgn-Dmg(45), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(46)
Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 49: Power Surge -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)
Level 1: Critical Hit
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 1: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 1: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(3)
Level 1: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A)
Level 49: Quick Form
Level 18: Double Jump
Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon
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The SM one personally looks pretty rock solid to me. Has a higher recharge too, and the Psi resist is at 60, instead of 50 with the other one. I can vouch from experience with my DM/BIO/MU that I do NOT miss Dark Consumption. It does have a Proc Bombed DNA Siphon in liu of though. Pretty sure if I spent more time on the DM/ELA/MU one I could really tighten it up, but the DM/ELA/SOUL was pretty darn easy.

Wow thank you so much. So glad we have multiple builds lol

 

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