Saarthalian Posted June 16, 2019 Posted June 16, 2019 So I've been looking around and doing some reading. Hearing that necro/dark is still a thing and I'm almost eager to get back to it. Anyone have any build tips and suggestions for end game content to be viable? Resist heavy builds? High def low resist? I'm not sure what the caps are on the pets and what would be best. I have been doing some reading and know to franken slot the zombies and grave knights after 4 IO's for a set bonus. I think one has to have the ATO and the other can be just a pet based system. (meaning 2 slots are on hit chance stuff/ while the other 4 slots are for set bonuses)? Any assistance in this would be awesome! Even just a point in the right direction. I've just not found any builds for necro/dark that are current. Thanks for the help! :D 1
Force Redux Posted June 16, 2019 Posted June 16, 2019 I had an Incarnate Necro/Dark on live, and I'm leveling another again this time around. It's a great combo, keeps you active and involved. One you put all your pet unique +Def/resist IOs slotted in soul extraction your pets become much tougher. And between your controls and debuffs, and those from Lich and Dark Fluffy, things become very safe. I'll try to post my build later today. @Force Redux on Everlasting ----- (read my guide) ----- Gather the Shadows: A Dark Miasma Primer for Masterminds
Force Redux Posted June 16, 2019 Posted June 16, 2019 Here you go. A basic template for slotting, powers and critical Pet IOs. The open slots you can do as you wish, either with basic IOs, sets, or frankenslotting. I put Hami-Os in Dark Servant, myself. This build assumes no Tankerminding, which I generally don't do, unless I were to AV hunt, in which case make a separate build for that. Then you'd need Provoke and possibly Fighting Pool to make yourself tougher. Let me know if any questions. Perhaps some of the other MM experts on the forum may provide additional insights! Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Necromancy Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Zombie Horde (A) Empty (5) Empty (7) Empty (7) Empty (9) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus (9) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Empty (11) Empty (11) Empty (13) Empty (13) Empty (15) Empty Level 2: Tar Patch (A) Empty (5) Empty (15) Empty (17) Empty (17) Empty (50) Empty Level 4: Darkest Night (A) Empty (19) Empty (19) Empty (21) Empty (21) Empty (23) Empty Level 6: Enchant Undead (A) EmptyLevel 8: Hover (A) EmptyLevel 10: Mystic Flight (A) EmptyLevel 12: Grave Knight (A) Empty (23) Empty (25) Empty (25) Empty (27) Empty (27) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage Level 14: Howling Twilight (A) Empty (48) Empty Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Empty (29) Empty (29) Empty (31) Empty (31) Empty (31) Empty Level 18: Spirit Ward (A) EmptyLevel 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Empty (33) Empty (33) Empty (33) Empty (34) Empty (34) Empty Level 22: Maneuvers (A) Empty (34) Empty (36) Empty (36) Empty Level 24: Soul Extraction (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (36) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (37) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (50) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen Level 26: Lich (A) Empty (37) Empty (37) Empty (39) Empty (39) Empty (39) Empty Level 28: Petrifying Gaze (A) Empty (40) Empty (40) Empty (40) Empty (42) Empty (50) Empty Level 30: Tactics (A) Empty (42) Empty (42) Empty (43) Empty (43) Empty (43) Empty Level 32: Dark Empowerment (A) EmptyLevel 35: Rune of Protection (A) EmptyLevel 38: Dark Servant (A) Empty (48) Empty (48) Empty Level 41: Dark Embrace (A) Empty (46) Empty Level 44: Soul Tentacles (A) Empty (45) Empty (45) Empty (45) Empty (46) Empty (46) Empty Level 47: Victory Rush (A) EmptyLevel 49: Vengeance (A) EmptyLevel 1: Brawl (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) EmptyLevel 1: Sprint (A) EmptyLevel 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) EmptyLevel 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) EmptyLevel 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+RecoveryLevel 2: Hurdle (A) EmptyLevel 2: Stamina (A) Empty (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod (3) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End ------------ @Force Redux on Everlasting ----- (read my guide) ----- Gather the Shadows: A Dark Miasma Primer for Masterminds
Saarthalian Posted June 16, 2019 Author Posted June 16, 2019 I really appreciate the help! This will actually give me a lot of leeway to fiddle around and see what I feel up to doing. If I come up with something fun, I'll get to posting it. :)
Saarthalian Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 So here's what I found, modified and fiddled with at your suggestions as well. Thanks for your help! This looks like it might be hilariously fun. Plus with the tohit debuffs on top of the high def just seems like this'll be untouchable. Should multibox it for lols. Also ignore the incarnate stuff - I haven't fiddled with that. Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Necromancy Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Concealment Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Zombie Horde (A) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus (3) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus (3) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage (5) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown (5) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (7) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing (7) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration (11) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage (11) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 2: Tar Patch (A) Recharge Reduction IO (13) Recharge Reduction IO (13) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (36) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge Level 4: Darkest Night (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff (17) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (17) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (19) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 6: Enchant Undead (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 8: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (19) Recharge Reduction IO Level 10: Howling Twilight (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun (21) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge (21) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (23) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge (23) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun (25) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 12: Grave Knight (A) Soulbound Allegiance - Damage (25) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage/Endurance (27) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (27) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Endurance (29) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (29) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up Level 14: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (31) Kismet - Accuracy +6% (33) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (33) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (34) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (34) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (34) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (36) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 18: Soul Extraction (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (36) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff (37) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff (39) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (39) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (39) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (40) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 22: Super Speed (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)Level 24: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 26: Lich (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage (40) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (40) HamiO:Peroxisome Exposure (42) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage (42) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (42) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen Level 28: Petrifying Gaze (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (43) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold (43) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (45) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold Level 30: Tactics (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure (45) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure Level 32: Dark Empowerment (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 35: Scorpion Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (45) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 38: Dark Servant (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff (46) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff (46) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (46) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (48) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (48) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 41: Burnout (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 44: Web Envelope (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize (48) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge (50) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge (50) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance (50) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold Level 47: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge SpeedLevel 49: Stealth (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge SpeedLevel 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IOLevel 2: Health (A) Miracle - +Recovery (15) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IOLevel 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod (15) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 1: Brawl (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) EmptyLevel 1: Sprint (A) Celerity - +StealthLevel 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) EmptyLevel 4: Ninja Run Level 0: Born In Battle Level 0: High Pain Threshold Level 0: Invader Level 0: Marshal Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany ------------
Force Redux Posted June 17, 2019 Posted June 17, 2019 Looking good... And expensive lol. Quick thoughts... I'd definitely put all the pet aura IOs in soul extraction and slot it with nothing else. It's there to be a slot mule, not a real pet. I like the procs in Grace Knight but they need more accuracy, they are your primary damage dealers Try: Acc/Dam Acc/Dam/End Acc/Dam/End Slot your Lich for control & debuffs... move that aura to Soul Extraction. Have fun, I love necro dark! @Force Redux on Everlasting ----- (read my guide) ----- Gather the Shadows: A Dark Miasma Primer for Masterminds
Saarthalian Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 Def look in to it Price is no object. If I can find a less expensive variance, I'll post it for people. Will give some feedback as I play him. :D
Saarthalian Posted June 17, 2019 Author Posted June 17, 2019 Definitely more where I want him to be. Thanks! :D Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Necromancy Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Concealment Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Zombie Horde (A) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus (3) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus (3) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (5) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Damage/Endurance (5) Overwhelming Force - Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown (7) Sovereign Right - Accuracy Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing (7) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing (9) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration (11) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage (11) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 2: Tar Patch (A) Recharge Reduction IO (13) Recharge Reduction IO (13) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (36) Pacing of the Turtle - Chance of -Recharge Level 4: Darkest Night (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff (17) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (17) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (19) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 6: Enchant Undead (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 8: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (19) Recharge Reduction IO Level 10: Howling Twilight (A) Absolute Amazement - Stun (21) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge (21) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Stun/Recharge (23) Absolute Amazement - Accuracy/Recharge (23) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun (25) Annihilation - Chance for Res Debuff Level 12: Grave Knight (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (25) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Endurance (27) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (27) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Accuracy/Damage (29) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (29) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up Level 14: Maneuvers (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (31) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (31) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (31) Kismet - Accuracy +6% (33) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (33) Reactive Defenses - Scaling Resist Damage Level 16: Shadow Fall (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (33) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (34) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed (34) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (34) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (36) Unbreakable Guard - +Max HP Level 18: Soul Extraction (A) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (36) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets (37) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets Level 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff (37) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff (39) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (39) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (39) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (40) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 22: Super Speed (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points)Level 24: Assault (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 26: Lich (A) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage (40) HamiO:Peroxisome Exposure (40) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (42) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (42) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (42) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 28: Petrifying Gaze (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (43) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge (43) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold (43) Basilisk's Gaze - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (45) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold Level 30: Tactics (A) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure (45) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure Level 32: Dark Empowerment (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 35: Scorpion Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance (45) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed Level 38: Dark Servant (A) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff (46) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/ToHitDebuff (46) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Recharge (46) Cloud Senses - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (48) Cloud Senses - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (48) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 41: Burnout (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 44: Web Envelope (A) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize (48) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Immobilize/Recharge (50) Gravitational Anchor - Accuracy/Recharge (50) Gravitational Anchor - Immobilize/Endurance (50) Gravitational Anchor - Chance for Hold Level 47: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge SpeedLevel 49: Stealth (A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge SpeedLevel 2: Swift (A) Run Speed IOLevel 2: Health (A) Miracle - +Recovery (15) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 2: Hurdle (A) Jumping IOLevel 2: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - EndMod (15) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 1: Brawl (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) EmptyLevel 1: Sprint (A) Celerity - +StealthLevel 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) EmptyLevel 4: Ninja Run Level 0: Born In Battle Level 0: High Pain Threshold Level 0: Invader Level 0: Marshal Level 50: Reactive Radial Flawless Interface Level 50: Intuition Radial Paragon Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany ------------ ------------ Set Bonus Totals: 4% DamageBuff(Smashing) 4% DamageBuff(Lethal) 4% DamageBuff(Fire) 4% DamageBuff(Cold) 4% DamageBuff(Energy) 4% DamageBuff(Negative) 4% DamageBuff(Toxic) 4% DamageBuff(Psionic) 6% Defense(Melee) 10% Defense 6% Defense(Smashing) 6% Defense(Lethal) 6% Defense(Fire) 6% Defense(Cold) 12.25% Defense(Energy) 12.25% Defense(Negative) 6% Defense(Psionic) 14.75% Defense(Ranged) 21% Defense(AoE) 9% Max End 113.8% Enhancement(RechargeTime) 39% Enhancement(Accuracy) 5% Enhancement(Heal) 22.5% SpeedFlying 117.5 HP (14.63%) HitPoints 22.5% JumpHeight 22.5% SpeedJumping Knockback (Mag -4) Knockup (Mag -4) MezResist(Confused) 35% MezResist(Held) 35% MezResist(Immobilized) 35% MezResist(Sleep) 35% MezResist(Stunned) 35% MezResist(Terrorized) 35% 10% (0.17 End/sec) Recovery 188% (6.29 HP/sec) Regeneration 40% Resistance(Smashing) 40% Resistance(Lethal) 52% Resistance(Fire) 52% Resistance(Cold) 46.75% Resistance(Energy) 46.75% Resistance(Negative) 42.25% Resistance(Toxic) 42.25% Resistance(Psionic) 0% Resistance(Smashing) 0% Resistance(Lethal) 0% Resistance(Fire) 0% Resistance(Cold) 0% Resistance(Energy) 0% Resistance(Negative) 0% Resistance(Toxic) 0% Resistance(Psionic) 22.5% SpeedRunning
Nyghtmaire Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 Saarthalian - Here's a different viewpoint. This is close cousin to my Live build before shutdown. I found that building for any sort of defensive softcap was less effective than focusing on recharge, -hit, and . However, I had a S/L/E softcap build with Scorpion Shield as an alternative (and team teleport for rapid pet positioning). This build has perma-hasten, -hit buffing focus for Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (and Cloud Senses proc as all of its abilities incorporate -hit), near capped hit and damage for all three pets, stealth in sprint to combine with Shadow Fall, all Def/Res pet procs, and a not unlivable amount of recovery with all toggles running. Flight speed boosts are a personal preference with an aim of getting it manageable for regular mobility on vertical cave maps. I'd prefer to have Howling Twilight up more often for the -Regen, but that's a real pain. For incarnates, interface is to taste. It has Clarion for the mm's mez protection, but it's worth building Barrier for greater pet survivability. Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Necromancy Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Teleportation Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Speed Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Zombie Horde -- SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(A), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), BldMnd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), EdcoftheM-PetDef(7) Level 1: Twilight Grasp -- TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(A), TchoftheN-Acc/Heal(11), TchoftheN-Acc/EndRdx/Heal/HP/Regen(11) Level 2: Tar Patch -- RechRdx-I(A), TmpRdn-EndRdx/Rchg/Slow(50) Level 4: Darkest Night -- DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(7), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(9), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(9) Level 6: Enchant Undead -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 8: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), HO:Micro(46), Flight-I(48), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(48) Level 10: Howling Twilight -- AbsAmz-EndRdx/Stun(A), AbsAmz-ToHitDeb%(37), AbsAmz-Stun/Rchg(37), AbsAmz-Acc/Stun/Rchg(37), AbsAmz-Acc/Rchg(40), EndRdx-I(40) Level 12: Grave Knight -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), TchofLadG-%Dam(13), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(15), HO:Nucle(15), HO:Nucle(19) Level 14: Teleport -- Jnt-EndRdx/Rng(A) Level 16: Shadow Fall -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(17), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(17), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), HO:Ribo(31), GldArm-RechEnd(50) Level 18: Soul Extraction -- ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(A), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(19), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(21), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(21), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(23), SvrRgh-PetResDam(23) Level 20: Fearsome Stare -- CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-Acc/Rchg(33), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(33), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(33), DmpSpr-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(50) Level 22: Recall Friend -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 24: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(25), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(25) Level 26: Lich -- HO:Endo(A), HO:Perox(27), CldSns-%Dam(27), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(29), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(29), HO:Nucle(31) Level 28: Petrifying Gaze -- BslGaz-EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(A), BslGaz-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg/Hold(34), BslGaz-Acc/Hold(34), BslGaz-Rchg/Hold(34) Level 30: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(A), AdjTrg-EndRdx/Rchg(43), AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(43), AdjTrg-ToHit(45), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(45) Level 32: Dark Empowerment -- EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(36) Level 38: Dark Servant -- CldSns-%Dam(A), CldSns-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(39), CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(39), CldSns-ToHitDeb/EndRdx/Rchg(39), HO:Endo(40) Level 41: Soul Tentacles -- GrvAnc-Immob/EndRdx(A), GrvAnc-Hold%(42), GrvAnc-Immob/Rchg(42), GrvAnc-Acc/Immob/Rchg(42), GrvAnc-Acc/Rchg(43) Level 44: Oppressive Gloom -- RopADop-Acc/Stun(A) Level 47: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(48) Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige 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DSorrow: “Give a man a build export and you feed him for a day, teach him to build and he's fed for a lifetime.
StrikerFox Posted June 18, 2019 Posted June 18, 2019 So here's what I found, modified and fiddled with at your suggestions as well. Thanks for your help! This looks like it might be hilariously fun. Plus with the tohit debuffs on top of the high def just seems like this'll be untouchable. Should multibox it for lols. Also ignore the incarnate stuff - I haven't fiddled with that. What the heck! You pretty much just stole my build.
Vinxnotha Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 Looking good... And expensive lol. Quick thoughts... I'd definitely put all the pet aura IOs in soul extraction and slot it with nothing else. It's there to be a slot mule, not a real pet. I like the procs in Grace Knight but they need more accuracy, they are your primary damage dealers Try: Acc/Dam Acc/Dam/End Acc/Dam/End Slot your Lich for control & debuffs... move that aura to Soul Extraction. Have fun, I love necro dark! Would you please post your build, Or a build that is optimized the best. Expense is not a problem. As influence is easy to come by.
Force Redux Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 Sure thing Vinxnotha! I'll post in a little bit @Force Redux on Everlasting ----- (read my guide) ----- Gather the Shadows: A Dark Miasma Primer for Masterminds
Saarthalian Posted June 23, 2019 Author Posted June 23, 2019 So here's what I found, modified and fiddled with at your suggestions as well. Thanks for your help! This looks like it might be hilariously fun. Plus with the tohit debuffs on top of the high def just seems like this'll be untouchable. Should multibox it for lols. Also ignore the incarnate stuff - I haven't fiddled with that. What the heck! You pretty much just stole my build. Found this on the old forums. I'm not sure if you read where I said I *found* and fiddled with this. I never claimed to create it. But just in case you're too slow to understand what that means, since you apparently are for choosing not to read: I in no way took credit for creating this. And the fact people on here are helpful is entirely why I got on to ask people for assistance. It's also why I shared what I found or what I will be using regardless as to not be self-centered about these trifling things.
Saarthalian Posted June 23, 2019 Author Posted June 23, 2019 Saarthalian - Here's a different viewpoint. This is close cousin to my Live build before shutdown. I found that building for any sort of defensive softcap was less effective than focusing on recharge, -hit, and . However, I had a S/L/E softcap build with Scorpion Shield as an alternative (and team teleport for rapid pet positioning). This build has perma-hasten, -hit buffing focus for Fearsome Stare and Dark Servant (and Cloud Senses proc as all of its abilities incorporate -hit), near capped hit and damage for all three pets, stealth in sprint to combine with Shadow Fall, all Def/Res pet procs, and a not unlivable amount of recovery with all toggles running. Flight speed boosts are a personal preference with an aim of getting it manageable for regular mobility on vertical cave maps. I'd prefer to have Howling Twilight up more often for the -Regen, but that's a real pain. For incarnates, interface is to taste. It has Clarion for the mm's mez protection, but it's worth building Barrier for greater pet survivability. I really enjoyed looking over this build. I have actually already fully built mine based on the one I posted above with a few personal changes of course. And I decided to attempt a multibox actually and found them to be nearly godly. Incarnates with barrier/protections of status will definitely be options taken. I greatly appreciate that you posted this build as it helps me understand the class a bit better as well. Thanks so much for being helpful and awesome :D
Marshal_General Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 I just noticed something about the MM ATOs You could 2 slot each of them into 3 powers and get 30% recharge and 12% global damage. It might be worth trying to figure a way to do that in a build.
Force Redux Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 I just noticed something about the MM ATOs You could 2 slot each of them into 3 powers and get 30% recharge and 12% global damage. It might be worth trying to figure a way to do that in a build. That's pretty neat! Does global damage affect pets? I didn't think so, but I'd like to be wrong! @Force Redux on Everlasting ----- (read my guide) ----- Gather the Shadows: A Dark Miasma Primer for Masterminds
Nyghtmaire Posted June 23, 2019 Posted June 23, 2019 I just noticed something about the MM ATOs You could 2 slot each of them into 3 powers and get 30% recharge and 12% global damage. It might be worth trying to figure a way to do that in a build. That's pretty neat! Does global damage affect pets? I didn't think so, but I'd like to be wrong! Nope. Global damage only effects the player. The Splintered Soul Project: (Nyght****) 21 and counting (18 max). DSorrow: “Give a man a build export and you feed him for a day, teach him to build and he's fed for a lifetime.
Vuhart Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 I quite like StrikerFox's pet slotting that he provided in this thread: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/index.php/topic,1603.0.html He does split Superior Mark of Supremacy to get the 30% recharge buff, all 6 unique pet IOs and a ton of procs to boot. Definitely expensive but if you can get there...
Force Redux Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Looking good... And expensive lol. Quick thoughts... I'd definitely put all the pet aura IOs in soul extraction and slot it with nothing else. It's there to be a slot mule, not a real pet. I like the procs in Grace Knight but they need more accuracy, they are your primary damage dealers Try: Acc/Dam Acc/Dam/End Acc/Dam/End Slot your Lich for control & debuffs... move that aura to Soul Extraction. Have fun, I love necro dark! Would you please post your build, Or a build that is optimized the best. Expense is not a problem. As influence is easy to come by. Here you go. "Best" is always subjective, but this build has worked very well for me in the past. I don't try to cap resistance, though I do attempt to boost it. With all the controls and debuffs, things 'whiff' a lot or else are locked down. I like procs on things, and I build for control on Necro/Dark because it plays to its strengths, but the power sets are neat, because there are always odd ways to get more damage in via procs. Grave Knights are slotted for damage, and Lich for lots of control. Just my way of doing it, but since you asked me to share, here it is: Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962 http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic Mastermind Primary Power Set: Necromancy Secondary Power Set: Dark Miasma Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Presence Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery Villain Profile: Level 1: Zombie Horde (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (5) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (5) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (7) Call to Arms - Defense Bonus Aura for Pets (7) Edict of the Master - Defense Bonus (9) Sovereign Right - Resistance Bonus Level 1: Twilight Grasp (A) Touch of the Nictus - Healing (11) Touch of the Nictus - Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration/Recharge (11) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Healing (13) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Heal/HitPoints/Regeneration (13) Touch of the Nictus - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (15) Touch of the Nictus - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 2: Tar Patch (A) Impeded Swiftness - Chance of Damage(Smashing) (15) Pacing of the Turtle - Endurance/Recharge/Slow (17) Recharge Reduction IO (17) Recharge Reduction IO Level 4: Darkest Night (A) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff (19) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge (19) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Recharge/Endurance (21) Dark Watcher's Despair - Recharge/Endurance (21) Dark Watcher's Despair - To Hit Debuff/Endurance (23) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow Level 6: Enchant Undead (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 8: Hover (A) Freebird - +Stealth (9) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) Level 10: Howling Twilight (A) Absolute Amazement - Endurance/Stun (23) Absolute Amazement - Stun/Recharge (25) Overwhelming Force - Endurance/Recharge Level 12: Grave Knight (A) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (27) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (27) HamiO:Nucleolus Exposure (29) Endurance Reduction IO (29) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (31) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up Level 14: Mystic Flight (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 16: Shadow Fall (A) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All) (34) Shield Wall - Defense/Endurance (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance (36) Impervium Armor - Resistance/Endurance/Recharge Level 18: Soul Extraction (A) Superior Mark of Supremacy - Endurance/Pet +Resist +Regen (25) Superior Command of the Mastermind - Recharge/Pet +AoE Defense Aura (31) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 20: Fearsome Stare (A) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff (37) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/ToHit Debuff (37) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Recharge (37) Siphon Insight - ToHit Debuff/Endurance/Recharge (40) Siphon Insight - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (40) Siphon Insight - Chance for +ToHit Level 22: Maneuvers (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (40) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (43) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (45) Red Fortune - Defense (45) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 24: Tactics (A) Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control - To Hit Buff/Endurance (50) Adjusted Targeting - To Hit Buff/Endurance (50) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure Level 26: Lich (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (33) Blood Mandate - Damage/Endurance (34) Blood Mandate - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (34) Dark Watcher's Despair - Chance for Recharge Slow Level 28: Petrifying Gaze (A) Lockdown - Accuracy/Hold (31) Lockdown - Accuracy/Recharge (48) Lockdown - Recharge/Hold (48) Lockdown - Endurance/Recharge/Hold (48) Lockdown - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (50) Lockdown - Chance for +2 Mag Hold Level 30: Provoke (A) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge (46) Perfect Zinger - Accuracy/Recharge (46) Perfect Zinger - Taunt/Recharge/Range (46) Perfect Zinger - Chance for Psi Damage Level 32: Dark Empowerment (A) Endurance Reduction IOLevel 35: Dark Embrace (A) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) (36) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% Level 38: Dark Servant (A) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (39) HamiO:Endoplasm Exposure (39) Recharge Reduction IO (39) Recharge Reduction IO Level 41: Arcane Bolt (A) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance (42) Thunderstrike - Damage/Recharge (42) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (43) Thunderstrike - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (43) Thunderstrike - Damage/Endurance/Recharge Level 44: Rune of Protection (A) Recharge Reduction IOLevel 47: Spirit Ward (A) Miracle - Heal/Endurance/RechargeLevel 49: Vengeance (A) Defense Buff IOLevel 1: Brawl (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Dash (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Slide (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Quick (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Rush (A) EmptyLevel 1: Prestige Power Surge (A) EmptyLevel 1: Sprint (A) EmptyLevel 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest (A) EmptyLevel 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift (A) EmptyLevel 2: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+RecoveryLevel 2: Hurdle (A) EmptyLevel 2: Stamina (A) Endurance Modification IO (3) Performance Shifter - EndMod (3) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1456;674;1348;HEX;| |78DA6593C96F127114C77FC30C65DF040A2D4B4B17A9A023B89D4C4C6CAD26ED344| |D1AEB16432694B61381C11948E4E89F604DF4E4D683698CD67871BDE8D1FF412FDE| |8CA97AB06E89C1C7BC574166C2E4C37CDFFA7BBFDF4FBA32E5DE3C79F518E3FC936| |559D70B92ACD74B5A45A92E5925794529F20C1E1BBCF18EA5B0D0A854D4AA38572A| |6A6A45AE169BB12EE3F1C6F2B238256B970A9222EB1599B9E655B52C4E979595D5B| |ADBF8BFA06AC592D6F4191FB32579A9A4E9AB4A2D607C4B7255A935CA725D51ABF1| |1335A5287657561B65EAB11985AEC6E1DDB0327A5A56761420F04CE861DF070B630| |981F57D84EFB4C0ECDBC0BCC04E0B5DB141DED09C216218E9EE274690DE28721162| |398CE5B9FB9C91DFFB84336CFE2CFB8F67C097A73AFC538BA1ED7A467C8E0CBD20B| |E44F6BF423E80F5E1125BCC9AC27C0ED8129B51BCC5D9FE604DFB3BF43F0BB51CE8| |6F71CC51AE1964F43DF6FE1012BA30DEEAA2190DF6304EB5E26F203628B0E424E6B| |80E43F7503F1EF23907357D988FF7CD608DD43472748C33663E9A463E82DA01EA2F| |D00E6CF7F5167D93DFB0C6799083D45FD086B6313BD1417422D32EA21B1980D9846| |9D66127473EC88C1BB9D743F4127DC820C446A8B7C806F6925F271EC6B96C42FF03| |947FE0086AC3BDFC8473496D11692F2FC0BA62141BDB462DF91DB9FF07F127F117D| |5FD8D1C84DE1274DE122A6AFB2E136B441DF9187A1CA23D1AA23D7A0DE319A13333| |7280F62682E7F6A28077A99D7B9CD6B07B87748677B8068E13B486895BA8EDB94DB| |C43BC8BCCDC23AE236F406C96FACA52BE6BA089A489A7F08C8460AD39D272493A87| |9DBB0A3F7858C6A4E44C4ADEA41C3429874CCAAC49913A4A6BBE73F31967581DFE7| |FF7BBB5E5042BD76DFDD2AD2CE249FB6CF2FADA512CDC30AED9B286FB69B989FC0B| |5516E60A| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| @Force Redux on Everlasting ----- (read my guide) ----- Gather the Shadows: A Dark Miasma Primer for Masterminds
Saarthalian Posted June 24, 2019 Author Posted June 24, 2019 I quite like StrikerFox's pet slotting that he provided in this thread: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/index.php/topic,1603.0.html He does split Superior Mark of Supremacy to get the 30% recharge buff, all 6 unique pet IOs and a ton of procs to boot. Definitely expensive but if you can get there... Didn't even know this post existed. Thanks. Found the one I modified off of Ship of Heroes (Archived forums?) And modified at the suggestion of Gmredux's early advice. Build was around 600mil - If I chose to craft, it would have been half that. I've avoided resistances for defense and of course -to hit (which is essentially more def) Haven't had issues yet and I'm rolling around at +4x8
Force Redux Posted June 24, 2019 Posted June 24, 2019 Awesome to hear Saarthalian :) @Force Redux on Everlasting ----- (read my guide) ----- Gather the Shadows: A Dark Miasma Primer for Masterminds
Atomos Posted June 27, 2019 Posted June 27, 2019 As someone who plays primarily solo with the MM, is Howling Twilight worth taking still? Given the pets can't be rezzed by it, does it have any benefit to using outside of the rez ability, or would there be a different power "more recommended" for use?
Nyghtmaire Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 As someone who plays primarily solo with the MM, is Howling Twilight worth taking still? Given the pets can't be rezzed by it, does it have any benefit to using outside of the rez ability, or would there be a different power "more recommended" for use? Howling Twilight is AMAZING. An auto mag 3 stun and massive -Regen on top. Howling Twilight is a use early and often power. Rezzing party members should be seen as a byproduct rather than a primary feature. The Splintered Soul Project: (Nyght****) 21 and counting (18 max). DSorrow: “Give a man a build export and you feed him for a day, teach him to build and he's fed for a lifetime.
Atomos Posted June 28, 2019 Posted June 28, 2019 Howling Twilight is AMAZING. An auto mag 3 stun and massive -Regen on top. Howling Twilight is a use early and often power. Rezzing party members should be seen as a byproduct rather than a primary feature. That's useful to know, didn't realize it was that good! Thanks!
StrikerFox Posted June 30, 2019 Posted June 30, 2019 I quite like StrikerFox's pet slotting that he provided in this thread: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/index.php/topic,1603.0.html He does split Superior Mark of Supremacy to get the 30% recharge buff, all 6 unique pet IOs and a ton of procs to boot. Definitely expensive but if you can get there... Didn't even know this post existed. Thanks. Found the one I modified off of Ship of Heroes (Archived forums?) And modified at the suggestion of Gmredux's early advice. Build was around 600mil - If I chose to craft, it would have been half that. I've avoided resistances for defense and of course -to hit (which is essentially more def) Haven't had issues yet and I'm rolling around at +4x8 I see. The build you found happens to have the exact same slotting in Maneuvers and Shadow Fall. Including the level 30 LotG +7.5% recharge IO's, exactly like my build posted in the above link. That's the weirdest coincidence. Should give credit to the creator. I'm sure the dude on the SoH forum worked hard on it.
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