PeregrineFalcon Posted March 16 Share Posted March 16 As I said earlier @Drow2100, some people just like to argue. Don't take it personally, it's not an attack on you. It's more like when little boys are mean to little girls. They do it because it's the only way they know to show that they like them. 2 Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Drow2100 Posted March 16 Author Share Posted March 16 1 hour ago, CrusaderDroid said: @RudraI'm confused as to what your goal is here. Do you want @Drow2100to make better contributions to the forums, or do you just want them to stop posting, period? If it's the former, I tried to outline some of the stuff that I thought was a pain point with you in my own post, so that the next time Drow2100 has an idea, they're better equipped to pitch it. It might help to de-escalate if you explain what exactly you're trying to do here. Actually, no! That's why the mechanics matter. Assault Rifle, Dual Pistols, and Beam Rifle could have all been reskins of each other, but instead they've all got different mechanics behind them that make them stand out - Dual Pistols' ammo switching and Beam Rifle's Disintegrating mechanics being particular standouts. Even if they all looked like a generic gun, the powers would have been meaningfully different enough that we could have decisions made based on how they play. That's a good thing. Flavor is great. It can't carry a powerset though. Since they're basically the equivalent of classes or talent trees or specs or what have you in other MMOs, they need to be meaningfully distinct from all other sets so there's a good reason to pick them and not relegate them to a particle of some other powerset. I don't think people are opposed to, say, Teleport Melee, but you'd need to pitch a really cool hook to get people to seriously think about it instead of rightfully saying "just use Combat Teleport". Without that pitch, there's nothing to get anyone invested in it, even if it can be a really cool idea. The good news is you don't need that much to stand out. Ammo switching and Disintegrating were good enough to carry those powersets. Come up with a sweet core mechanic and you're already halfway there. Fair enough, I'll keep that in mind Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
A.I.D.A. Posted March 18 Share Posted March 18 On 3/15/2024 at 4:25 PM, ShinMagmus said: Lieutenant Carnie... you ain't got no legs! Lel XD You say that, but the Carnival Illusionists actually ~don't~ have any legs! Their dresses are like upside-down wineglasses wrapped in cloth and tied off at the rim of the glass. They don't even have little feet sticking out after you finish 'em off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PeregrineFalcon Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 By the way, @Drow2100 I wanted to ask again about your Speedster concept because it seems interesting. My speedster on Homecoming is an MA/SR Scrapper with Super Speed. How would your suggested speedster be different than that? Being constantly offended doesn't mean you're right, it means you're too narcissistic to tolerate opinions different than your own. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Tenshi Posted March 19 Share Posted March 19 On 3/15/2024 at 2:28 PM, Drow2100 said: Mythical/Elemental Blast - This server has NO magic power sets whatsoever except for the sorcery secondary. It would be nice to add a touch of magic to the game. Demon summoning, Necromancy, and ninjas to a lesser extent say “hi”. To be honest, this is a huge pet peeve for me that these sets are ultimately arcane in nature, especially ninjas as you spend the first two tiers of pets with martial arts and assassination masters then suddenly; BOOM! Mystical Oni! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biostem Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 46 minutes ago, Sakura Tenshi said: BOOM! Mystical Oni! Because it is totally impossible that said Oni is a mutant or a guy with cleverly hidden fire-generating tech, concealed under/within a costume? 47 minutes ago, Sakura Tenshi said: Demon summoning That one is definitely more pigeon-holed than others, but still not impossible to explain away. 48 minutes ago, Sakura Tenshi said: Necromancy We literally have tech/science-based undead in-game, so this one's easy to attribute to other origins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 52 minutes ago, Sakura Tenshi said: especially ninjas as you spend the first two tiers of pets with martial arts and assassination masters then suddenly; BOOM! Mystical Oni! Personally, I would have gone with the stereotypical genin, chunin, and jounin sequence. Or even genin, jounin, and taoist sorcerer. A tengu would have made more thematic sense than an oni as well. However, oni tend to be better known by the general public than taoist sorcerers or tengu, so that may be why they were chosen. After all, ninjas are a trope and so are the oni. Tengu and taoist sorcerers not so much. Especially with the use of spirit masks, masks that were supposed to impart some of the mythological might of the creatures the masks were of, usually oni and long-nose tengu to the best of my knowledge. (Though fox spirit and cat... monster? beast? masks were also supposed to exist.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megaericzero Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 8 minutes ago, Rudra said: (Though fox spirit and cat... monster? beast? masks were also supposed to exist.) Kitsune and nekomata? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
biostem Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 (edited) Maybe some sort of "Hokage" would be a better T3 henchman for Ninja? Edited March 20 by biostem Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Tenshi Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, biostem said: Maybe some sort of "Hokage" would be a better T3 henchman for Ninja? Just Kage, and the power description for ninjas literally says that’s what you might be to them. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 2 hours ago, megaericzero said: Kitsune and nekomata? Yes, mostly kitsune, but yes. Though I should point out, at least for the kitsune, kitsune is just fox. We understand it as the fox spirit, but the word kitsune just means fox. So I am differentiating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rudra Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 1 hour ago, biostem said: Maybe some sort of "Hokage" would be a better T3 henchman for Ninja? 49 minutes ago, Sakura Tenshi said: Just Kage, and the power description for ninjas literally says that’s what you might be to them. Kage just means shadow. Things like hokage are a Naruto thing. Besides, we already have the oni and I'm rather partial to the oni now. While not thematically appropriate, it does still work. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PoptartsNinja Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 The Oni is already literally a (ho) fire (kage) shadow anyway. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sakura Tenshi Posted March 20 Share Posted March 20 https://homecoming.wiki/wiki/Ninjas Quote You are known by many names... Sensei, Shogun, Kage, Lord. What you are is a Master of the most deadly assassins the world has ever seen... You are a Ninja Master. Command your Ninja Henchmen and even train them in new weapons and techniques. Ninjas have superior reflexes and can even super leap. Their training makes them highly resistant to Confusion. Ninja Henchmen cannot be resurrected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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