-recharge and other debuffs?

[Nemu]

13 hours ago, Maelwys said:

  

 

It was far more than one instance. However more importantly: the OP wasn't actually asking how to fix something, they were making absolute (and disprovable) statements whilst asking if anyone else had seen the same thing (and we hadn't). This is essentially a rant thread that some of us valiantly attempted to turn into a viable bug report.

Rereading the thread; it's less "lol you're dumb ROFL" and more "That doesn't look right. Can you provide more information and check those facts so we can check?"
Even our resident crazy cat lady took a moment from posting memes to point out how the claimed level of debuffery in the situation as-stated simply wasn't possible .

Multiple posters highlighted the discrepancy of the debuff values that were being claimed; and multiple posters (like ZemX) pointed out generic methods of countering the debuffs.

  

Actually on occasion I do look forwards to those posts... because the OP almost always forgets to return but once the memes die down the followup conversation often tends to be a fun back-and-forth infodump which helps clear up any misunderstandings for newbies who happen across the thread and wonder what the hell just happened.

But as mentioned earlier; after several years worth of trying eventually you start getting jaded.

Here is an example of how to apply some emotional intelligence to a response to the original post:

 

Yeah recharge debuffs can suck, especially if you don’t have a lot of powers to cycle through. (Not invalidating the fact that recharge debuffs exist and they can be debilitating)

 

The -recharge cap is 4x the base recharge value of the power, for example a power that recharges in 6 seconds would take 24 seconds if you are at the -recharge cap all the time. If you are experiencing more than 4x then it maybe a bug. (Based on the poster’s history he cares more about theme and has never expressed a penchant for deep math and data centric deep dives of powers. This keeps the explanation at a high level to get the message across. You are meeting him where he is)

There are a few ways to combat this debuff:

Through IOs, the winter universal travel unique is fairly cheap. It provides 20% -recharge resistance and can be slotted early. There are other sets but those can be much more costly.

Base buff - you can craft another 15% there

Accolade - Time lord offers another 20% but it may take a bit of time to get that accolade.

Avoid getting hit - use your lucks.

(offer some solutions, give him tools deal with the problem. Whether he leans into those is up to him)

 

This one response could have ended the thread instead of 2 pages of toxic replies mocking/gaslighting the poster before this “valiant” effort to determine whether the experience is a bug.

 

[Maelwys]

  

4 hours ago, Nemu said:

Here is an example of how to apply some emotional intelligence to a response to the original post:

 

Counterpoint: The original post was already appropriately responded to.


The ONE engaging question the OP asked of the forum was "Am I imagining this, or was there a change recently?" which Hedgefund gave a succinct snark-free answer to in the 5th reply.
The intervening replies were a request for more information from Lemming; some examples of how to combat Recharge Debuffs from Glacier Peak; and a followup from the OP with another separate outlandish claim with no supporting context or evidence "I'm finding my endurance drained from full to 0 in two shots, from MINIONS." 
Glacier Peak and Without_Pause also repeatedly pointed out that more context would be required in order to provide accurate answers. ZemX (after a very brief bit of calling out) and Riverdusk and SeraphimKensai actually tried to engage and provided generic help. Without_Pause again asked for more information. The first sign of blatant snark I can see is from Luminara in reply #24; and I'm pretty sure she's got a doctor's note to cover it (my money's on a rare strain of Tourette's that manifests itself as an involuntary reflexive posting of memes in response to viewing emotionally-laden rants with no observable factual basis).

Into Page 2: Memes start flying, but Hedgefund was still trying to helpfully engage. ZemX was too; albeit with a bit more exasperation showing.

Into Page 3: Finally we get a screenshot of one specific power on cooldown (and I eventually draw out which power it actually was; without snark and instead giving a thanks and a thumbs up for finally providing some solid contextual information) which allowed for a controlled test of the enemy attack in question. Since any powers bug server-side was disproved; that leaves a Client-Side UI bug, lag, or user error as the possible culprits. We can't help with those and there have already been PLENTY of generic "here's how you can tackle recharge debuffs" guidance given further up-thread. So it's "case closed".

Second half of Page3 and into Page 4: After 2 months of the thread being "finished" (from what I can see the OP's original queries have been fully handled + server-side bugs disproven as best we can without any Dev interjection)... various unrelated forumites commence arguing with each other about rudeness and posting etiquette; despite the thread itself apparently not being worthy of being reported or hit with a Mod lock; let alone any banhammers.

IMO requests for more information intermixed with (largely equal parts!) helpful responses and impolite snarkiness/memes does not constitute bullying.

  

4 hours ago, Nemu said:

This one response could have ended the thread instead of 2 pages of toxic replies mocking/gaslighting the poster before this “valiant” effort to determine whether the experience is a bug.

And here is an example of how the original post could have been worded:

"Recently sometimes when things hit me my powers suddenly take a very long time to recharge. I'm finding it very annoying and impossible to play. Has anyone noticed the same happening?"

Remove the factual errors and absolute statements such as  "ALL my powers suddenly take 40+ seconds to recharge" and "There's literally no way to fight back" and "it's basically impossible to fight some of these guys" and suddenly it's not a rant; but a conversation.



Or better yet: 

"Hey; my level 23 Street Justice / Willpower Scrapper was fighting Council in a radio map and suddenly my powers started taking a very long time to recharge. I noticed one saying 54 seconds. Is this normal or a bug?"



Or best of all:

Put it in the Bug Report subforum; titled something along the lines of "Possible recharge time debuff bug?"
"TOONNAME - Lv23 SrtJ/Wp Scrapper
Council Radio Mission MISSIONNAME - MISSIONMAPID#
After getting hit by a POWERNAME from MOBNAME ; my powers suddenly starting showing an abnormally long time to recharge.
I'm unsure if it's intended or due to a UI bug or a wider server-side powers issue; but my POWERNAME went to [54] seconds as per the screenshot below.
Combat log attached.
Thanks in advance!"


Whenever someone wants to ask their peers for something on a forum then regardless of their intelligence (emotional or otherwise) their request should not require the respondents to possess a functioning crystal ball or run it through an incoherent-rambling-to-human parser first.

I fully acknowledge that some people simply cannot process life without continually verbally expressing their immediate thoughts to those around them (no inner monologue, nor ability to internally reflect and consider things). I'm married to one of these people. But before committing a query to paper or print or post there exists a more than adequate opportunity to take sufficient time to formulate your question in such a way that people can understand what the f%$k you're asking; assuming that you're actually intending to ask something instead of just vent/rant.

Otherwise you end up with this; where GM_Impervium put it best:
 

 

Edited Thursday at 11:29 AM by Maelwys

[tidge]

19 hours ago, Nemu said:

And that last quote calling out the other user yall love to pile on to just shows the malevolence @Camel pointed out. I bet the lot of you just light up seeing that person post so you can swarm all over that post.

 

That other user: I have mad respect for how good a job they do with thread titles that end up being the perfect 'click bait', but the content of the original posts in those threads is (mostly) absurd(*1) and (sometimes) mildly inflammatory, and it is so common that the user name is pretty reasonably associated with that forum behavior IMO.

 

(*1) I'm thinking of things like "Yellow Enhancements Can't be Slotted and Don't Do Anything Anyway" (made up example) where forum regulars who should know better begin engagement.

[Maelwys]

3 hours ago, tidge said:

where forum regulars who should know better begin engagement.

It's like a drug.
We're all just hoping against hope for one of those sweet elusive occasions where they grace the thread with their presence again and occasionally even express gratitude.
Maybe, just MAYBE this time they'll learn... 🤞 ....Nah. 🤮

[GM_GooglyMoogly]

What are we taking about?  -Recharge?  Forum Etiquette?

 

The first one seems to be covered. 

 

The second flows from the power of Bill and Ted: