d4verman Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Question: I tried to simulate a dead body using the technique Prime Elway mentioned in the pinned post. (set the person as "unconscious"). I even set the enemy group as "empty" so there was nothing to interact with, but when you get too close the "dead" person gets up and runs away. Is there a work around to this?
sponazgul Posted January 21 Posted January 21 Sadly, the body bag is kind of the go-to corpse indicator. Even if you set the person's behavior to be unconscious after the rescue too, I assume they get up and run away.
UltraAlt Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) 4 hours ago, d4verman said: I tried to simulate a dead body using the technique Prime Elway mentioned in the pinned post. (set the person as "unconscious"). Sounds like a "corpse" might be a good addition as an object. Suggest it in the suggestion forums. There could be some reason that a corpse can't be added as an object, but I'm not trying to suggest there is one. 4 hours ago, sponazgul said: Sadly, the body bag is kind of the go-to corpse indicator. Even if you set the person's behavior to be unconscious after the rescue too, I assume they get up and run away. It is definitely how it is used to portray corpses being "handled" by the Vahz. Often in the story missions I create, the dead have been consumed by the "enemies", and all that is left is a pile of bones. Edited January 22 by UltraAlt 1 If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them.
Clave Dark 5 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 I have a mission with some dead NPCs in it. I set them as Allies and to "do nothing" when they are acquired so to speak. I want to say I can remember sometimes they might shift about but stay on the floor in their "Unconscious" animation, but most of the time they will stand up and then remain there; I just ran it again and that's what they did this time anyway. This is another case of having to try and fit your story around the weird systems and sometimes glitches of the AE. In my story I could allow for it as they're sort of zombies, and @UltraAlt option isn't a bad idea either. I would have prefered they not do that of course but... Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
UltraAlt Posted January 22 Posted January 22 5 minutes ago, Clave Dark 5 said: I would have prefered they not do that of course but... which? Add a corpse as an object or "enemies" eating animals? If someone posts a reply quoting me and I don't reply, they may be on ignore. (It seems I'm involved with so much at this point that I may not be able to easily retrieve access to all the notifications) Some players know that I have them on ignore and are likely to make posts knowing that is the case. But the fact that I have them on ignore won't stop some of them from bullying and harassing people, because some of them love to do it. There is a group that have banded together to target forum posters they don't like. They think that this behavior is acceptable. Ignore (in the forums) and /ignore (in-game) are tools to improve your gaming experience. Don't feel bad about using them.
Clave Dark 5 Posted January 22 Posted January 22 (edited) Not stand up, remain on the ground. I'd be happy enough to see the AE, you know, actually work as instructed to and let us place a dead (or even just unconscious!) character. 😃 ETA: Here's what I mean... Me: "Will you lay down already GEEZ!" AE: You can't make me! Edited January 23 by Clave Dark 5 Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
Darmian Posted January 23 Posted January 23 If you set an NPC as a friendly boss (non objective) and use dead slab instead of unconscious, AND have a small set of minions attached to them apparently examining the body, then the body SHOULD stay dead. Yes it's a pain. It doesn't always work either! AE SFMA Arcs: The Meteors (Arc id 42079) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part One. (Arc id 26756) X | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Two. (Arc id 26952) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Three. (Arc id 27233) Darker Deeds: Part One (Arc id 28374) | Darker Deeds: Part Two. (Arc id 28536) | Darker Deeds: Part Three. (Arc id 29252) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part One (Arc id 29891) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Two (Arc id 30210) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Three (Arc id 30560) | Bridge of Forever ( Arc id 36642) | The Cassini Division (Arc id 37104) X | The House of Gaunt Saints (Arc id 37489) X | The Spark of the Blind (Arc id 40403) | Damnatio Memoriae (Arc id 41140) X | The Eve of War (Arc id 41583) X | Spirals: Part One. (Arc id 55109) | Spirals: Part Two. (Arc id 55358) | Spirals: Part Three. (Arc id 57197) I Sing of Arms and the Man (Arc id 42617) | Three Sisters (Arc id 43013) (Pre War Praetorian Loyalist. Pre War Praetorian Resistance. Pre ITF Cimerora. Post ITF Cimerora. X = Dev Choice/Hall of Fame )
Clave Dark 5 Posted January 23 Posted January 23 7 hours ago, Darmian said: It doesn't always work either! The AE System Still, thanks for the hack info! 1 Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
Darmian Posted January 25 Posted January 25 On 1/23/2025 at 5:41 PM, Clave Dark 5 said: The AE System Still, thanks for the hack info! Although why we can't just have a body option I dunno. How hard could it be? AE SFMA Arcs: The Meteors (Arc id 42079) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part One. (Arc id 26756) X | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Two. (Arc id 26952) | Dark Deeds in Galaxy City: Part Three. (Arc id 27233) Darker Deeds: Part One (Arc id 28374) | Darker Deeds: Part Two. (Arc id 28536) | Darker Deeds: Part Three. (Arc id 29252) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part One (Arc id 29891) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Two (Arc id 30210) | Darkest Before Dawn: Part Three (Arc id 30560) | Bridge of Forever ( Arc id 36642) | The Cassini Division (Arc id 37104) X | The House of Gaunt Saints (Arc id 37489) X | The Spark of the Blind (Arc id 40403) | Damnatio Memoriae (Arc id 41140) X | The Eve of War (Arc id 41583) X | Spirals: Part One. (Arc id 55109) | Spirals: Part Two. (Arc id 55358) | Spirals: Part Three. (Arc id 57197) I Sing of Arms and the Man (Arc id 42617) | Three Sisters (Arc id 43013) (Pre War Praetorian Loyalist. Pre War Praetorian Resistance. Pre ITF Cimerora. Post ITF Cimerora. X = Dev Choice/Hall of Fame )
Clave Dark 5 Posted January 26 Posted January 26 Probably not too difficult, but the current devs aren't too keen to do too much work with the AE. 1 Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
Clave Dark 5 Posted February 2 Posted February 2 Update: so I was randomly hopping into the AE with a new stalker (who couldn't handle it :P) and (re)discovered a published story with a perfect "dead body" in it. The title is "Murder on 34th Street," it was one of the Christmas contest winners (rightly so), and you find a body in the first mission. The dead guy didn't burble about when you get close, didn't stand up, anything - perfect execution. I have no idea how they did that 😄 I think it was a Boss set as ally, something something, but I dunno. I don't know if the author is still hanging around, but you could track the name down and send them a comment and see what they say. And please report back! Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝
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