Flavors of the tank

Intermipants · Friday at 08:42 PM

Ahoy Homecoming! I’ve recently been experimenting with tankers and the different ways they can be played. I took the secondary effect of the tanker primary (slows, mez, damage etc.) and combined them with a secondary that accentuates those effects to build various different types of tanks.

Couple of caveats on the builds - I made sure that they were sturdy enough for tank basics (i.e. holding aggro without dying) and then I skewed them to accentuate their secondary effects and so they’re not min/maxed and some of them lack damage. However, all of them are more than capable of tanking at +4x8 if that’s the kind of thing you like to do. Also, there are purple sets etc. in the builds but I found that they’re not really necessary and can be substituted for less expensive sets that do the same thing just slightly less effectively. Finally, I love procs in some of my damage powers for tanks and so some of the builds are choc-a-bloc with procs.

Thanks to the great Homecoming community both in the forums and in game for all the advice and help you’ve given with the builds. If anyone has any other flavors of tank that they’d recommend please let me know!

Here’s the experience I’ve had so far:

Mez Tank

Powersets: dark armor / energy melee

Goal: reduce incoming damage by stunning everything

Build priorities: resistance; stun magnitude; endurance management

Being surrounded by people staggering around never gets old, and that’s as true in City of Heroes as it is down the pub. The combination of oppressive gloom and the disorient proc in cloak of fear guarantees that all minions and roughly half the lieutenants are stunned instantly. Everyone else can be stunned with a quick energy melee bash. This tank was very durable and highly effective and great fun to play (I took it all the way to Tier 4 incarnates). There were some downsides though: (1) stunned mobs are difficult to cluster tightly; (2) the stun effect doesn’t switch on until level 20 with oppressive gloom; and (3) endurance is something that you have to stay on top of – getting ready for a Synapse TF was like an 800 lb chain smoker limbering up for a marathon. I actually installed a chair near my SG entrance just for this character. I really enjoyed this one and I’d recommend it for any control freaks and dominators (like me) who also like a bit of tanking.

Here's the build I used for Disorient Express:

Spoiler

Disorient Express - Hero Tanker
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.5 rev. 21
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Primary powerset: Dark Armor
Secondary powerset: Energy Melee
Pool powerset (#1): Fighting
Pool powerset (#2): Leaping
Pool powerset (#3): Speed
Pool powerset (#4): Presence
Epic powerset: Earth Mastery

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Dark Embrace

A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
3: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
3: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
13: Aegis: Psionic/Status Resistance

Level 1: Barrage

A: Absolute Amazement: Stun
5: Absolute Amazement: Stun/Recharge
5: Absolute Amazement: Stun/Recharge/Accuracy
7: Absolute Amazement: Recharge/Accuracy
7: Absolute Amazement: Stun/Endurance
9: Absolute Amazement: Chance for ToHit Debuff

Level 2: Murky Cloud

A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
15: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
15: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 4: Death Shroud

A: Invention: Accuracy
17: Superior Might of the Tanker: Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)

Level 6: Obsidian Shield

A: Impervium Armor: Psionic Resistance
17: Impervium Armor: Resistance/Endurance
19: Impervium Armor: Resistance/Recharge
19: Impervium Armor: Endurance/Recharge

Level 8: Dark Regeneration

A: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb
21: Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance
21: Preventive Medicine: Heal
23: Preventive Medicine: Heal/Endurance
23: Preventive Medicine: Endurance/RechargeTime
25: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime

Level 10: Taunt

A: Mocking Beratement: Threat/Placate
25: Mocking Beratement: Threat/Placate/Range

Level 12: Kick

(Empty)

Level 14: Tough

A: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP
27: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
27: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
29: Steadfast Protection: Knockback Protection

Level 16: Combat Jumping

A: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
31: Kismet: Accuracy +6%

Level 18: Cloak of Fear

A: Unspeakable Terror: Disorient Bonus
31: Unspeakable Terror: Accuracy/Endurance
31: Invention: Endurance Reduction
33: Triumphant Insult: Chance to Disorient
33: Glimpse of the Abyss: Accuracy/Endurance
33: Invention: Accuracy

Level 20: Total Focus

A: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage
34: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Damage/RechargeTime
34: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
34: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
36: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
36: Superior Gauntleted Fist: RechargeTime/+Absorb

Level 22: Oppressive Gloom

A: Rope A Dope: Accuracy/Endurance
36: Rope A Dope: Accuracy/Stun
37: Rope A Dope: Endurance/Stun
37: Rope A Dope: Accuracy/Recharge

Level 24: Weave

A: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage
29: Karma: Knockback Protection

Level 26: Super Speed

A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 28: Power Crash

A: Armageddon: Damage
37: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge
39: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
39: Armageddon: Recharge/Accuracy
39: Armageddon: Damage/Endurance
40: Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage

Level 30: Energy Transfer

A: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage
40: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Recharge
40: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
42: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
42: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
42: Pounding Slugfest: Disorient Bonus

Level 32: Provoke

A: Invention: Accuracy

Level 35: Salt Crystals

A: Call of the Sandman: Accuracy/Recharge
43: Call of the Sandman: Endurance/Sleep
43: Call of the Sandman: Accuracy/Endurance
43: Call of the Sandman: Sleep/Range
45: Call of the Sandman: Accuracy/Sleep/Recharge
45: Call of the Sandman: Chance of Heal Self

Level 38: Intimidate

A: Invention: Accuracy

Level 41: Quick Sand

A: Pacing of the Turtle: Damage/Slow
45: Pacing of the Turtle: Accuracy/Endurance
46: Pacing of the Turtle: Range/Slow
46: Pacing of the Turtle: Accuracy/Slow
46: Pacing of the Turtle: Endurance/Recharge/Slow

Level 44: Stalagmites

A: Rope A Dope: Accuracy/Recharge
48: Rope A Dope: Accuracy/Stun/Recharge
48: Rope A Dope: Endurance/Stun
48: Rope A Dope: Accuracy/Endurance
50: Rope A Dope: Accuracy/Stun

Level 47: Invoke Panic

A: Unspeakable Terror: Disorient Bonus
50: Invention: Accuracy

Level 49: Hasten

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
50: Invention: Recharge Reduction

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Inherents:

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

(Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

(Empty)

Level 2: Rest

(Empty)

Level 1: Swift

(Empty)

Level 1: Hurdle

(Empty)

Level 1: Health

A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
9: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery
11: Miracle: +Recovery

Level 1: Stamina

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
11: Performance Shifter: EndMod
13: Invention: Endurance Modification

Level 1: Energy Focus

Level 38: Speed Phase

Damage Tank

Powersets: fiery armor / fiery melee

Goal: reduce incoming damage through arson

Build priorities: resistance; accuracy, recharge, endurance (the holy trinity of damage dealers)

Absolutely nothing subtle about this one - just glorious amounts of enormous damage. I love playing this tank – although it’s probably the least sturdy of the tanks it can still hold its own, can manage aggro well, and the damage level is really nuts. It works equally well on teams, solo, and in farms if you like that kind of thing (I do enjoy the odd bit of farming here and there). Downsides are that you have to keep an eye on your green bar and get ready to heal and it’s quite expensive compared to the other builds. This is now my go to for soloing and it can pretty much solo everything (I sometimes like to take my time soloing TFs so that I can read the dialogue and as a brief aside if you haven’t already done it I’d highly recommend taking your time on the Aeon SF, it’s really well written and hilarious!) Love playing this tank and I’d recommend it for any soloists, farmers, or blasters who fancy some red hot tanking action.

Here's the build I use for Emberno Fantastico:

Spoiler

Emberno - Hero Tanker
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.5 rev. 21
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Primary powerset: Fiery Aura
Secondary powerset: Fiery Melee
Pool powerset (#1): Flight
Pool powerset (#2): Fighting
Pool powerset (#3): Speed
Pool powerset (#4): Leadership
Epic powerset: Energy Mastery

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Fire Shield

A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
3: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
3: Unbreakable Guard: Endurance/RechargeTime
5: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance
5: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime

Level 1: Fire Sword

A: Hecatomb: Damage
7: Hecatomb: Damage/Recharge
7: Hecatomb: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
9: Hecatomb: Recharge/Accuracy
9: Hecatomb: Damage/Endurance
11: Hecatomb: Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 2: Healing Flames

A: Preventive Medicine: Heal
17: Preventive Medicine: Heal/Endurance
17: Preventive Medicine: Endurance/RechargeTime
19: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime
19: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
21: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb

Level 4: Combustion

A: Superior Gauntleted Fist: RechargeTime/+Absorb
21: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
23: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
23: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
25: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Damage/RechargeTime
50: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage

Level 6: Temperature Protection

A: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)
25: Aegis: Psionic/Status Resistance
27: Impervious Skin: Status Resistance/Regeneration
27: Impervium Armor: Psionic Resistance

Level 8: Blazing Aura

A: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage
29: Superior Might of the Tanker: Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
29: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Recharge
31: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
31: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
31: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 10: Taunt

A: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate
33: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate/Recharge

Level 12: Plasma Shield

A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
33: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
33: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
34: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance
34: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP

Level 14: Consume

A: Synapse's Shock: EndMod
36: Synapse's Shock: Damage/Rechage
36: Synapse's Shock: EndMod/Recharge
36: Synapse's Shock: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
37: Synapse's Shock: Damage/Accuracy/Endurance
37: Synapse's Shock: EndMod/Increased Run Speed

Level 16: Hover

A: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
37: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage
39: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 18: Burn

A: Fury of the Gladiator: Chance for Res Debuff
39: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
39: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
40: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage
40: Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage
40: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage

Level 20: Kick

(Empty)

Level 22: Fiery Embrace

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
42: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 24: Build Up

A: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff
42: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Recharge
42: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff/Endurance/Recharge

Level 26: Tough

A: Steadfast Protection: Knockback Protection
43: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%
50: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/Endurance

Level 28: Fire Sword Circle

A: Achilles' Heel: Chance for Res Debuff
43: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
43: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
45: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage
45: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Damage
45: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage

Level 30: Hasten

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
46: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 32: Greater Fire Sword

A: Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage
46: Superior Blistering Cold: Damage/Endurance
46: Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
48: Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
48: Superior Blistering Cold: Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
48: Superior Blistering Cold: Recharge/Chance for Hold

Level 35: Conserve Power

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
50: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 38: Focused Accuracy

A: Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control: Chance for Build Up

Level 41: Physical Perfection

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End

Level 44: Weave

A: Kismet: Accuracy +6%

Level 47: Maneuvers

A: Karma: Knockback Protection

Level 49: Phoenix Rising

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End

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Inherents:

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

(Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

(Empty)

Level 2: Rest

(Empty)

Level 1: Swift

(Empty)

Level 1: Hurdle

(Empty)

Level 1: Health

A: Numina's Convalesence: Heal
11: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
13: Regenerative Tissue: +Regeneration
13: Numina's Convalesence: Heal/Endurance
15: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery
34: Miracle: +Recovery

Level 1: Stamina

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
15: Power Transfer: Chance to Heal Self

Slow Tank

Powersets: ice armor / ice melee

Goal: reduce incoming damage by slowing everything to a crawl

Build priorities: defense; -recharge; -slow

This tank was just ok for me - I felt ice armor was a bit unpredictable and could be great for a while and then everything could go catastrophically sideways in a hurry. This character benefited from “micro-kiting” where you cluster the mobs and then step about ten feet away from them and wait – with all the slows it takes them so long to reach you that some will have died of old age, others will have retired to a nice seaside community, and the rest will have been killed by your teammates. The slow effect was good but the unpredictable fragility of the tank and the ongoing endurance issues put me off a bit. I think I could’ve slotted better to manage endurance but I never really got into the groove with this one and just like in real life I stopped caring and gave up at 50.

Here's the build I used for Disco Dancefloe:

Spoiler

Disco Dancefloe - Hero Tanker
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.5 rev. 21
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Primary powerset: Ice Armor
Secondary powerset: Ice Melee
Pool powerset (#1): Fighting
Pool powerset (#2): Flight
Pool powerset (#3): Leadership
Pool powerset (#4): Speed
Epic powerset: Ice Mastery

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Frozen Armor

A: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
3: Shield Wall: Defense
3: Shield Wall: Defense/Endurance

Level 1: Frozen Fists

A: Ice Mistral's Torment: Endurance/Slow
7: Ice Mistral's Torment: Damage/Recharge
7: Ice Mistral's Torment: Damage/Slow
9: Ice Mistral's Torment: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
9: Ice Mistral's Torment: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
11: Ice Mistral's Torment: Chance for Cold Damage

Level 2: Chilling Embrace

A: Ice Mistral's Torment: Endurance/Slow
17: Ice Mistral's Torment: Damage/Recharge
17: Ice Mistral's Torment: Damage/Slow
19: Ice Mistral's Torment: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
19: Ice Mistral's Torment: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
21: Ice Mistral's Torment: Chance for Cold Damage

Level 4: Hoarfrost

A: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb
5: Preventive Medicine: Heal
5: Preventive Medicine: Heal/Endurance
31: Preventive Medicine: Endurance/RechargeTime
33: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime

Level 6: Wet Ice

A: Invention: Endurance Reduction

Level 8: Permafrost

A: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP
21: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)
23: Aegis: Resistance/Endurance
23: Aegis: Resistance
25: Aegis: Resistance/Recharge

Level 10: Taunt

A: Invention: Accuracy

Level 12: Kick

(Empty)

Level 14: Tough

A: Aegis: Psionic/Status Resistance
25: Aegis: Resistance
27: Aegis: Resistance/Endurance
40: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%
46: Aegis: Resistance/Recharge

Level 16: Weave

A: Kismet: Accuracy +6%

Level 18: Glacial Armor

A: Reactive Defenses: Defense
27: Reactive Defenses: Defense/Endurance
29: Reactive Defenses: Endurance/RechargeTime
29: Reactive Defenses: Defense/Endurance/RechargeTime
31: Reactive Defenses: Defense/RechargeTime
31: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage

Level 20: Hover

A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 22: Energy Absorption

A: Performance Shifter: EndMod
33: Performance Shifter: EndMod/Recharge
33: Performance Shifter: EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
34: Performance Shifter: Accuracy/Recharge
34: Performance Shifter: EndMod/Accuracy
34: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End

Level 24: Ice Patch

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
36: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 26: Icicles

A: Superior Might of the Tanker: Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
36: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage
36: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Recharge
50: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

Level 28: Greater Ice Sword

A: Crushing Impact: Accuracy/Damage
37: Crushing Impact: Damage/Endurance
37: Crushing Impact: Damage/Recharge
37: Crushing Impact: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
39: Crushing Impact: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
39: Crushing Impact: Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 30: Frozen Aura

A: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage
39: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
40: Superior Gauntleted Fist: RechargeTime/+Absorb
40: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
42: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
45: Invention: Accuracy

Level 32: Frost

A: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
42: Annihilation: Chance for Res Debuff
42: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
43: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
43: Ice Mistral's Torment: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge
43: Ice Mistral's Torment: Chance for Cold Damage

Level 35: Block of Ice

A: Basilisk's Gaze: Chance for Recharge Slow

Level 38: Hibernate

A: Power Transfer: Chance to Heal Self

Level 41: Shiver

A: Ice Mistral's Torment: Endurance/Slow
45: Ice Mistral's Torment: Damage/Recharge
45: Ice Mistral's Torment: Damage/Slow
46: Ice Mistral's Torment: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
46: Impeded Swiftness: Chance of Damage(Smashing)

Level 44: Ice Storm

A: Annihilation: Accuracy/Damage
48: Annihilation: Damage/RechargeTime
48: Annihilation: Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
48: Annihilation: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
50: Annihilation: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
50: Annihilation: Chance for Res Debuff

Level 47: Assault

A: Invention: Endurance Reduction

Level 49: Tactics

A: Invention: To Hit Buff

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Inherents:

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

(Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

(Empty)

Level 2: Rest

(Empty)

Level 1: Swift

(Empty)

Level 1: Hurdle

(Empty)

Level 1: Health

A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
11: Regenerative Tissue: +Regeneration
13: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery
13: Numina's Convalesence: Heal/Endurance
15: Numina's Convalesence: Endurance/Recharge

Level 1: Stamina

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
15: Performance Shifter: EndMod

Regen Tank

Powersets: willpower / dark melee

Goal: sluice away incoming damage in an endless torrent of regen and healthy superfoods

Build priorities: smash / lethal resistance; typed defense; regen; HP

This is the vegan yoga instructor of City of Heroes. In the two weeks I spent leveling this character I lost 20lbs, started wearing hemp trousers, and discovered the meaning of the word bespoke. I initially had trepidation about this build because I thought I’d get knackered by the alpha strikes but it actually turned out to be extremely sturdy and was the second toughest of the tanks I built. The damage was very weak (the build isn’t very balanced) but it could easily tank on teams at +4x8 and while there wasn’t anything particularly unique about it I really enjoyed playing this one. I’d recommend this for anyone who still has vague memories of playing a regen scrapper in the early days of live and being unkillable.

Here's the build I used for Bamboodoo:

Spoiler

Booboo Bamboodoo - Hero Tanker
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.5 rev. 21
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Primary powerset: Willpower
Secondary powerset: Dark Melee
Pool powerset (#1): Fighting
Pool powerset (#2): Presence
Pool powerset (#3): Experimentation
Pool powerset (#4): Flight
Epic powerset: Energy Mastery

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Mind Over Body

A: Aegis: Resistance
3: Aegis: Resistance/Endurance
3: Impervious Skin: Status Resistance/Regeneration
5: Aegis: Resistance/Recharge

Level 1: Shadow Punch

A: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage
5: Superior Might of the Tanker: Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)
7: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Recharge
13: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
37: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
37: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge

Level 2: High Pain Tolerance

A: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)
7: Impervium Armor: Psionic Resistance
9: Impervious Skin: Status Resistance/Regeneration
9: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%
11: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP

Level 4: Fast Healing

A: Preventive Medicine: Heal
13: Preventive Medicine: Heal/Endurance
23: Preventive Medicine: Endurance/RechargeTime
29: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime
29: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
31: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb

Level 6: Indomitable Will

A: Kismet: Accuracy +6%

Level 8: Rise to the Challenge

A: Numina's Convalesence: Heal/Endurance
15: Numina's Convalesence: Endurance/Recharge
15: Numina's Convalesence: Heal/Recharge
23: Numina's Convalesence: Heal/Endurance/Recharge
25: Numina's Convalesence: Heal
25: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery

Level 10: Taunt

A: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
11: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate
36: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate/Recharge

Level 12: Quick Recovery

A: Power Transfer: EndMod
33: Power Transfer: Damage/Recharge
34: Efficacy Adaptor: EndMod/Endurance
34: Efficacy Adaptor: EndMod
34: Power Transfer: Damage/Accuracy/Recharge/Endurance
36: Power Transfer: Chance to Heal Self

Level 14: Kick

(Empty)

Level 16: Siphon Life

A: Theft of Essence: Chance for +Endurance
17: Theft of Essence: Accuracy/Healing
17: Touch of the Nictus: Healing/Absorb
19: Touch of the Nictus: Healing/Absorb/Recharge
19: Touch of Death: Chance of Damage(Negative)
21: Mako's Bite: Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 18: Heightened Senses

A: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage
21: Reactive Defenses: Defense
33: Reactive Defenses: Defense/Endurance

Level 20: Tough

A: Aegis: Psionic/Status Resistance
31: Aegis: Resistance
31: Aegis: Resistance/Endurance
33: Impervious Skin: Status Resistance/Regeneration

Level 22: Weave

A: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
36: Shield Wall: Defense
37: Shield Wall: Defense/Endurance

Level 24: Soul Drain

A: Eradication: Damage
39: Eradication: Accuracy/Recharge
39: Eradication: Damage/Recharge
39: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage
40: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
40: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage

Level 26: Strength of Will

A: Aegis: Resistance
27: Aegis: Resistance/Endurance
27: Aegis: Resistance/Endurance/Recharge

Level 28: Dark Consumption

A: Efficacy Adaptor: EndMod
42: Efficacy Adaptor: EndMod/Recharge
42: Efficacy Adaptor: EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge
43: Efficacy Adaptor: Accuracy/Recharge

Level 30: Provoke

A: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate
43: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate/Recharge
43: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range

Level 32: Intimidate

A: Nightmare: Accuracy/Fear
40: Nightmare: Accuracy/Recharge
42: Nightmare: Endurance/Fear

Level 35: Focused Accuracy

A: Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control: Chance for Build Up
45: Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control: To Hit Buff
45: Gaussian's Synchronized Fire-Control: To Hit Buff/Recharge

Level 38: Unrelenting

A: Miracle: +Recovery
50: Miracle: Heal/Endurance
50: Miracle: Endurance/Recharge
50: Miracle: Heal/Recharge

Level 41: Physical Perfection

A: Panacea: Heal/Endurance
45: Panacea: Endurance/Recharge
46: Panacea: Heal/Recharge
46: Panacea: Heal/Endurance/Recharge
46: Panacea: Heal
48: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance

Level 44: Speed of Sound

A: Blessing of the Zephyr: Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range
48: Blessing of the Zephyr: Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance
48: Blessing of the Zephyr: Knockback Reduction (4 points)

Level 47: Toxic Dart

(Empty)

Level 49: Adrenal Booster

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction

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Inherents:

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

(Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

(Empty)

Level 2: Rest

(Empty)

Level 1: Swift

(Empty)

Level 1: Hurdle

(Empty)

Level 1: Health

A: Regenerative Tissue: +Regeneration

Level 1: Stamina

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End

Level 44: Jaunt

Tanker’s Tank

Powersets: invulnerability / staff

Goal: just be really really tough

Build priorities: resistance; defense

I thought that my willpower tank was going to be difficult to beat in the sturdiness stakes. How wrong I was! This tank was ridiculous! After level 30 my green bar barely moved at all and when it did I thought there was some kind of problem with my vision. This could tank everything and by the time I reached 50 I had stopped paying attention to my green and blue bars. The only downside to this build is that it removes all jeopardy from the game. Admittedly I didn’t run anything on hard mode but everything else didn’t scratch the paint. I’d recommend this for anyone who wants to run a tank but is deathly afraid of the ignominy, disgrace, and enormous humiliation that comes with occasionally faceplanting. I actually really enjoyed this one particularly because I find the staff moves endlessly entertaining.

Here's the build I used for Kendo Barbie:

Spoiler

Kendo Barbie - Hero Tanker
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.5 rev. 21
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Primary powerset: Invulnerability
Secondary powerset: Staff Fighting
Pool powerset (#1): Fighting
Pool powerset (#2): Fighting
Pool powerset (#3): Leaping
Pool powerset (#4): Leadership
Epic powerset: Energy Mastery

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Temp Invulnerability

A: Aegis: Resistance/Endurance
7: Aegis: Resistance/Recharge
9: Aegis: Resistance

Level 1: Mercurial Blow

A: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage
5: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Damage/RechargeTime
5: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/RechargeTime
7: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
23: Superior Gauntleted Fist: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/RechargeTime
25: Superior Gauntleted Fist: RechargeTime/+Absorb

Level 2: Resist Physical Damage

A: Impervium Armor: Psionic Resistance
3: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 4: Guarded Spin

A: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage
9: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Recharge
11: Superior Might of the Tanker: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
11: Superior Might of the Tanker: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
13: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
13: Superior Might of the Tanker: Recharge/Chance for +Res(All)

Level 6: Dull Pain

A: Preventive Medicine: Heal
27: Preventive Medicine: Heal/Endurance
27: Preventive Medicine: Endurance/RechargeTime
29: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime
33: Preventive Medicine: Heal/RechargeTime/Endurance
34: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb

Level 8: Resist Elements

A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
15: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
15: Unbreakable Guard: Endurance/RechargeTime
19: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance
19: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
21: Unbreakable Guard: +Max HP

Level 10: Taunt

A: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate
34: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate/Recharge
34: Perfect Zinger: Threat/Placate/Recharge/Range

Level 12: Unyielding

A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
37: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
40: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
42: Unbreakable Guard: Endurance/RechargeTime
42: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance

Level 14: Resist Energies

A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
17: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
17: Unbreakable Guard: Endurance/RechargeTime
21: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance
23: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance/RechargeTime
25: Aegis: Psionic/Status Resistance

Level 16: Eye of the Storm

A: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
45: Fury of the Gladiator: Chance for Res Debuff
45: Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage
48: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage
50: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
50: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Damage

Level 18: Invincibility

A: Kismet: Accuracy +6%

Level 20: Staff Mastery

Level 22: Tough Hide

A: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage
48: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
48: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Endurance

Level 24: Kick

(Empty)

Level 26: Unstoppable

A: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance
36: Unbreakable Guard: Resistance/Endurance
36: Unbreakable Guard: RechargeTime/Resistance
37: Unbreakable Guard: Endurance/RechargeTime
37: Titanium Coating: Endurance/Recharge
50: Titanium Coating: Resistance/Endurance

Level 28: Tough

A: Impervious Skin: Status Resistance/Regeneration
29: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%

Level 30: Sky Splitter

A: Touch of Death: Accuracy/Damage
31: Touch of Death: Damage/Endurance
31: Touch of Death: Damage/Recharge
31: Touch of Death: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
33: Touch of Death: Damage/Endurance/Recharge
33: Touch of Death: Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 32: Weave

A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
42: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
46: Shield Wall: Defense/Endurance
46: Shield Wall: Defense

Level 35: Conserve Power

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
36: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 38: Innocuous Strikes

A: Eradication: Chance for Energy Damage
39: Scirocco's Dervish: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
39: Obliteration: Chance for Smashing Damage
39: Ice Mistral's Torment: Chance for Cold Damage
40: Perfect Zinger: Chance for Psi Damage
40: Scirocco's Dervish: Accuracy/Damage

Level 41: Physical Perfection

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End

Level 44: Focused Accuracy

A: Adjusted Targeting: To Hit Buff

Level 47: Combat Jumping

A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 49: Maneuvers

A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

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Inherents:

Level 1: Gauntlet

Level 1: Brawl

(Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

(Empty)

Level 2: Rest

(Empty)

Level 1: Swift

(Empty)

Level 1: Hurdle

(Empty)

Level 1: Health

A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance
43: Regenerative Tissue: +Regeneration
43: Miracle: +Recovery
43: Numina's Convalesence: +Regeneration/+Recovery
45: Numina's Convalesence: Heal/Endurance
46: Numina's Convalesence: Endurance/Recharge

Level 1: Stamina

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End
3: Performance Shifter: EndMod

Level 20: Form of the Body

Level 20: Form of the Mind

Level 20: Form of the Soul

Level 1: Combo Level 1

Level 1: Combo Level 2

Level 1: Combo Level 3

My final planned tank is an electric / electric sapper although I don’t really have high hopes for it given my experience with sapping on other ATs.

Thanks for reading, and again if anyone has ideas for other tanker flavors I’d love to try them!

Warshades · Saturday at 02:27 PM

Sapping works, just not on melee ATs. You want to have a lot of -rec in AoE attacks (enemies need a small sliver of end to launch attacks). While power sink and/or energy absorption work well in draining endurance, electric melee is terrible for this and mu mastery AoEs don't guarantee that -rec will apply. Sentinels, Corrs, and Defenders all do it much better.

This isn't really a different flavor of tank (unless you consider knockdown to be a flavor), but I've not played a tank that can out damage a proc bombed rad/ss. You could maybe compare it to your fire/fire.

tidge · Saturday at 03:10 PM

I smell what you are cooking with the Invulnerability Tank, I have one that performs really well across all content (including boosted Shadow Shard). There may be a case to be made for Super Reflexes. I haven't taken SR Tankers through as much (in terms of variety of) content, but I found them to be more boring than Invuln, at least once I had a handle on how much I could rely on Scaling Damage Resistance and when a burning of the green bar should be troubling and when it was just business as usual.

That being said, I do have a few bones to pick with the slotting choices on the Invulnerability primary:

I feel like the suggested slotting of Invincibility and Tough Hide is inferior to something like:

Level 18: Invincibility

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

(*) Shield Wall - Defense: Level 50+5

(*) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

(*) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure (Endurance/ ToHit/Defense)

Level 22: Tough Hide

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

(*) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

(*) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Obviously I'm shuffling Scaling Damage Resistance to somewhere else (in place of a LotG), but the Auto boost from Tough Hide is where Kismet should go, and underslotting Invincibility seems like a crime against the AT. I've copied in my slotting showing that I'm trying for +Regeneration boosts in addition to simply boosting the Defensive attributes. 3-slotting Shield Wall would be a good thing for a Tanker (more HP) , but I decided leaning into each of the Hami-O boosts to be slightly preferable. I often drop the Gaussian's %Build up in Invcibility as well.

In the current game, Invuln has much less of a "Psi Hole" than in the distant past, so there may be little need to try to patch it, especially if the ATO +Res is in use. MMV based on content I suppose. It also appears to be lacking a Power Transfer %Heal, which is far more important to an Invuln (or any, because of HP) Tanker IMO than an Impervium Armor Psi Resist piece.

Thraxen · Saturday at 04:36 PM

SR tank crazy. I almost never even worry about the scaling resists. He never gets low enough for them to kick in. Tanked 4star ITF on him no prob.

ice/spines is good for slows too.

Maltese_Knight · Saturday at 09:01 PM

5 hours ago, tidge said:

I smell what you are cooking with the Invulnerability Tank, I have one that performs really well across all content (including boosted Shadow Shard). There may be a case to be made for Super Reflexes. I haven't taken SR Tankers through as much (in terms of variety of) content, but I found them to be more boring than Invuln, at least once I had a handle on how much I could rely on Scaling Damage Resistance and when a burning of the green bar should be troubling and when it was just business as usual.

That being said, I do have a few bones to pick with the slotting choices on the Invulnerability primary:

I feel like the suggested slotting of Invincibility and Tough Hide is inferior to something like:

Level 18: Invincibility

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

(*) Shield Wall - Defense: Level 50+5

(*) Shield Wall - +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

(*) HamiO:Cytoskeleton Exposure (Endurance/ ToHit/Defense)

Level 22: Tough Hide

(A) Luck of the Gambler - Recharge Speed

(*) Luck of the Gambler - Defense

(*) Kismet - Accuracy +6%

Obviously I'm shuffling Scaling Damage Resistance to somewhere else (in place of a LotG), but the Auto boost from Tough Hide is where Kismet should go, and underslotting Invincibility seems like a crime against the AT. I've copied in my slotting showing that I'm trying for +Regeneration boosts in addition to simply boosting the Defensive attributes. 3-slotting Shield Wall would be a good thing for a Tanker (more HP) , but I decided leaning into each of the Hami-O boosts to be slightly preferable. I often drop the Gaussian's %Build up in Invcibility as well.

In the current game, Invuln has much less of a "Psi Hole" than in the distant past, so there may be little need to try to patch it, especially if the ATO +Res is in use. MMV based on content I suppose. It also appears to be lacking a Power Transfer %Heal, which is far more important to an Invuln (or any, because of HP) Tanker IMO than an Impervium Armor Psi Resist piece.

Can we run with the Build Up proc from Gaussian's in Invinc a bit?

Is that chance to proc affected at all by target count in Invince or is it proc'ed based on a chance per time frame? Because if I'm in a wad o' bad guys and it's triggering BECAUSE of Invinc mob counts (or increases the chances), that's pretty dang sexy.

Biff Pow · Saturday at 09:21 PM

18 minutes ago, Maltese_Knight said:

Can we run with the Build Up proc from Gaussian's in Invinc a bit?

Is that chance to proc affected at all by target count in Invince or is it proc'ed based on a chance per time frame? Because if I'm in a wad o' bad guys and it's triggering BECAUSE of Invinc mob counts (or increases the chances), that's pretty dang sexy.

Yes, the chance for build up increases with enemies around you. If you're in a group of 10+ it fires off a lot.

Spaghetti Betty · Saturday at 10:03 PM

57 minutes ago, Maltese_Knight said:

Can we run with the Build Up proc from Gaussian's in Invinc a bit?

Is that chance to proc affected at all by target count in Invince or is it proc'ed based on a chance per time frame? Because if I'm in a wad o' bad guys and it's triggering BECAUSE of Invinc mob counts (or increases the chances), that's pretty dang sexy.

37 minutes ago, Biff Pow said:

Yes, the chance for build up increases with enemies around you. If you're in a group of 10+ it fires off a lot.

I just want to add to this!

I've fiddled with this exact concept on my own quite a bit, and in practice it's not extremely reliable!

Keep in mind that Invincibility will only ever affect 10 targets at a time, and toggles will only check procs every 10 seconds. Gaussian 's has pitifully low proc chance as it is, so unless you're constantly around 10 targets every 10 seconds, the proc chance is wildly inconsistent!

On the flip side, if you want to run the BU proc passively, you could slot it in Tactics! It'll function much the same, but the firing will be based on how many ally players and NPCs are affected by your Tactics, which has much higher target cap. This includes pretty much any summonable entity that can receive buffs, like Controller or MM pets!

tidge · Saturday at 11:39 PM

2 hours ago, Biff Pow said:

Yes, the chance for build up increases with enemies around you. If you're in a group of 10+ it fires off a lot.

As noted, the target cap is 10 (enemies). It is typical that my Invuln Tank has more enemies close by than allies. While my Tankers will run Maneuvers, they rarely also have Tactics. It isn't so much that I mind running ally buffs on a Tanker, it is more that the builds get too tight for it.

Maltese_Knight · Sunday at 02:16 AM

So how's the mechanic work? How is the proc chance calculated? It sounds like regardless of Invincibility or Tactics, it would run the proc chance per mob, per ten seconds, unless already fired/active.

So if I'm tracking correctly, even at a 10 mob cap, that's still X chances (however many mobs are in the range) per ten seconds. That IS pretty dang sexy, regardless of the power. Looks like I'm slotting up Invincibility!

Thanks for the tips, gang.

biostem · Sunday at 02:22 AM

5 minutes ago, Maltese_Knight said:

o how's the mechanic work? How is the proc chance calculated?

I still find it a bit cumbersome to figure out, myself, but this has some useful information...

Maltese_Knight · Sunday at 02:41 AM

6 minutes ago, biostem said:

I still find it a bit cumbersome to figure out, myself, but this has some useful information...

The left side of my face went numb just looking at the formulas. Hahaha

But this does make sense. That link talks about PPM, which got me thinking about cool down. Not seeing anything handy that talks about it, other than the check to see if it's active/fired. Is there a cool down after it fires?

On a side note, sorry for the thread hijack.

biostem · Sunday at 02:44 AM

1 minute ago, Maltese_Knight said:

The left side of my face went numb just looking at the formulas. Hahaha

But this does make sense. That link talks about PPM, which got me thinking about cool down. Not seeing anything handy that talks about it, other than the check to see if it's active/fired. Is there a cool down after it fires?

On a side note, sorry for the thread hijack.

Haha! All things being equal, my general rule if a click power has a recharge time equal to or greater than the proc rate, it *should* go off each time you activate said power. It's not a perfect guideline, but seems reliable enough; I tend to put the Gaussian's in a build-up/aim power, and it'll go off every time I use said power, (at least in my experience)...

Maltese_Knight · Sunday at 02:49 AM

1 minute ago, biostem said:

Haha! All things being equal, my general rule if a click power has a recharge time equal to or greater than the proc rate, it *should* go off each time you activate said power. It's not a perfect guideline, but seems reliable enough; I tend to put the Gaussian's in a build-up/aim power, and it'll go off every time I use said power, (at least in my experience)...

Okay, that's a different angle.

But isn't there a check inherent in the proc so that you can't stack the effect? Or is the check so the proc doesn't stack with itself? Meaning, there's a legit chance to fire a double Build Up by slotting the proc in BU?

biostem · Sunday at 02:53 AM

2 minutes ago, Maltese_Knight said:

But isn't there a check inherent in the proc so that you can't stack the effect? Or is the check so the proc doesn't stack with itself? Meaning, there's a legit chance to fire a double Build Up by slotting the proc in BU?

The PPM of that Gaussian's is 1PPM, so basically once per minute, (again, very loose math, here). BU/AI have a base recharge of 90 secs, IIRC. If you slot it for recharge and have a lot of global +recharge, then yes, it won't trigger every time. If you only use BU/Aim more casually, as I tend to do, instead of whenever it's available, then that shouldn't be an issue. Still, yes, your point stands...

Biff Pow · Sunday at 03:17 AM

23 minutes ago, Maltese_Knight said:

But isn't there a check inherent in the proc so that you can't stack the effect? Or is the check so the proc doesn't stack with itself? Meaning, there's a legit chance to fire a double Build Up by slotting the proc in BU?

The Gaussians Build-Up used to double up sometimes in Invincibility, but that was changed at some point. I even saw it triple stack a couple times. Even without that, it's still definitely worth slotting.

Maelwys · Sunday at 08:34 AM

5 hours ago, Maltese_Knight said:

The left side of my face went numb just looking at the formulas.

You don't need to memorize or even understand the formulas, just use a calculator like this one by MacSkull (make a copy) plus City of Data v2 for the base numbers to plug into it.

For Clicks Global Recharge doesn't factor into it, only Base Recharge and slotted recharge enhancement (including from an Alpha slot). Autos and Toggles such as Invincibility don't even care about recharge - the only thing that counts for them is radius.

Edited Sunday at 08:35 AM by Maelwys

tidge · Sunday at 03:34 PM

13 hours ago, Maltese_Knight said:

So if I'm tracking correctly, even at a 10 mob cap, that's still X chances (however many mobs are in the range) per ten seconds. That IS pretty dang sexy, regardless of the power. Looks like I'm slotting up Invincibility!

I know that @Maltese_Knight isn't the OP, but of all the powers in a Tanker's Invulnerability primary... I never would have guessed that Invincibility would be a power that players would choose to take without adding any additional slots.... especially if playing against +4s. The 'singleton' buff may not look that good, when holding the aggro of a large number of enemies in melee range (yay Tanker PBAoEs) the extra slotting pays dividends in my experience.

Maltese_Knight · Sunday at 06:32 PM

2 hours ago, tidge said:

I know that @Maltese_Knight isn't the OP, but of all the powers in a Tanker's Invulnerability primary... I never would have guessed that Invincibility would be a power that players would choose to take without adding any additional slots.... especially if playing against +4s. The 'singleton' buff may not look that good, when holding the aggro of a large number of enemies in melee range (yay Tanker PBAoEs) the extra slotting pays dividends in my experience.

I don't get that either. Granted, my perspective is very narrow and ridiculously dated, but a 3 slot DEF buff at a minimum always made sense to me. While the increase itself per mob is small, it's a multiplicative buff plus the bonuses to its natural base, which makes things much better for minimal investment. Seems like a no brainer.

I always dismissed the ToHit side of it though and ran 3 slots and called it good. But again, that's from forever ago. Thinking a 4th slot for the Gaussian's proc is the play, but I'd be wide open to hearing thoughts on other set-ups for the power, the true gem in the Invulnerability set.

hakurr · Sunday at 10:14 PM

can you link the builds so that i can pull them up and look at the stats?

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