Fire / Kin Controller build advise needed

[Rustbeltcomics]

So I have mostly played damage dealing characters and yet I would like to have an alt who is desirable for teaming. I think I may have found both in a Fire/Kin controller. I am finding that I don't enjoy scrappers as much once I get them to 50 as they don't have much variety with mostly damage sets like claws or martial arts. But I also have an 50 Earth/Storm controller and I loved the variety of what I could do with her even though she was so very squishie.

 

So how about this first attempt at a Fire/Kin controller? Any thoughts? Do I really need the 5 force feedback + recharges which I have right now in this first build. Feels like overkill and I am sure others have some ideas on how to better slot this and do I even want Repel as a huge endurance toggle? Seems very situational and likely wouldn't need it in teams but perhaps it would be useful when soloing which I occasionally would like to do.  

 

Thanks in advance!

 

https://api.midsreborn.com/build/download/FMxELe3w7peeht4P

 

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[Auroxis]

I'd go for something like this, Fold Space is nice for keeping enemies in your Hot Feet + Bonfire and can often help teammates kill faster. Enflame is pretty poor damage on troller.

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[BassAckwards]

Here is what I run. Not the most optimized build, but I like the durability and it plays well.

 

 

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[Troo]

  On 3/10/2025 at 4:48 PM, Rustbeltcomics said:

Do I really need the 5 force feedback + recharges which I have right now in this first build.

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IF you have the extra slots, sure. They are not as needed once you have Siphon Speed.

 

  On 3/10/2025 at 4:48 PM, Rustbeltcomics said:

do I even want Repel as a huge endurance toggle?

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If you're a repel user currently and you like it, sure. I wouldn't take it. Repel and Inertial Reduction tend to be the skippables.

[Mattmba]

Thanks for your builds and thoughts. So is Earths Embrace not a must have for the extra hit points.  Also tell me how durable your build is with under 25% defense. Do controls make it safe to have lower defense? What attacks do you lead with to avoid aggro? Can you solo with your builds and what attacks are best for small mobs while soloing? I like Arcane Bolt but don’t see it in your builds. 

[BassAckwards]

  On 3/11/2025 at 3:31 PM, Mattmba said:

Thanks for your builds and thoughts. So is Earths Embrace not a must have for the extra hit points.  Also tell me how durable your build is with under 25% defense. Do controls make it safe to have lower defense? What attacks do you lead with to avoid aggro? Can you solo with your builds and what attacks are best for small mobs while soloing? I like Arcane Bolt but don’t see it in your builds. 

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For me, I typically open with flash fire and fire cages. Then start wittling away with fireball, bonfire, and boosted imps after fulcrum shift of course. 
 

This generally keeps the mobs locked down and transfusion is a surprisingly strong heal that keeps me alive for the damage that does come through. 
 

Strategy is pretty much the same whether soloing or teaming. 

Edited Tuesday at 04:51 PM by BassAckwards

[Auroxis]

  On 3/11/2025 at 3:31 PM, Mattmba said:

Thanks for your builds and thoughts. So is Earths Embrace not a must have for the extra hit points.  Also tell me how durable your build is with under 25% defense. Do controls make it safe to have lower defense? What attacks do you lead with to avoid aggro? Can you solo with your builds and what attacks are best for small mobs while soloing? I like Arcane Bolt but don’t see it in your builds. 

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After making a few changes, I made a recording of the build against +4x8:

 

 

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[Rustbeltcomics]

Thanks so much for the great video and a really strong build. I have used several of your ideas and want to summarize my thoughts and questions.

1. I tried to not need tough and weave as they use endurance I am not sure I will have but I built them in now. I tried seeing if I could build in enough -tohit but it doesn't work well. I took out Hot Feet to save on endurance but is Hot Feet a great power to keep in my build somehow?
2. I really like having Arcane Bolt, Mystic Flight and Rune of Protection in my build. Arcane Bolt is a great single target attack to put Cupid's Crush into plus a Change for + Recharge. I really like having Rune of Protection for the strong status protections even if it is only up 60 seconds every 180. It gives me a nice boost to my resistance and another place for IOs. I also feel the 50% of additional hit points/Heal in Earth's Embrace provides a much stronger build without too much loss of damage.
3. Why don't you use any Force Feedback: Chance for +Recharges in your build? I have four in my build and so I didn't even take Hasten.  I see my recharge hits the 300% cap if just a few of the procs activate. 
4. I took out Siphon Speed because I don't love slamming into cave walls with all that speed I can't control. What powers would you suggest I take out and what powers would you recommend adding?

 

 

https://api.midsreborn.com/build/download/FMPtERQzv5mmXUGU

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[Auroxis]

Here are a few tips to get you started:

 

1. Recharge - Hasten is a must. Force Feedback procs have a short duration, cannot stack, and aren't guaranteed to go off. So at most you'll have +100% and out of combat they're inactive.

 

2. Procs - Damage procs in powers that summon a pseudopet like Bonfire have a low chance to activate every 10s of the pet's duration on each mob. Outside of pseudopets/toggles, Proc chance is dictated by the enhanced recharge of a power, so fast recharging powers have a low chance to activate procs, and an increasingly lower chance if you place recharge enhancements into them (like you did with Arcane Bolt). In addition to enhanced recharge, the power's area factor is taken into account, meaning the bigger the area your power's AoE the lesser chance there is for the proc to go off. However, self-casting procs like Force Feedback and Energy Font check on every target affected by AoE, so even if your proc chances are at the minimum, if you check the proc chance against 10 mobs there is still a decent chance for it to go off.

 

3. Hot Feet - Hot Feet may feel expensive early on, but it is one of your main sources of early AoE damage along with damage procced Flashfire and energy font procced Fire Cages, especially once you buff your damage up with Siphon Power and later on Fulcrum Shift. Besides its damage, it gives a fear effect to mobs while also slowing them, giving you good soft CC which combo well with other soft CC like Bonfire.

Edited 11 hours ago by Auroxis