Human Form Warshade Help

[Fista]

First I'm a filthy casual and don't have inf to burn. Second I don't use MIDS. I think its overly complex and not intuitive. It's probably great for min/maxers but not for me.

 

With that out of the way what is the conventional wisdom on power pics and slotting?  Shields over powers? Powers over shields? Evenly distributed slots? Something else?  What's the cheapest and most economical way to stop getting rag dolled? Economical in terms of power pics, slots and/or what goes in the slots.

 

I know I'll catch flack for crapping on MIDS  but I just don't get it. Probably something to do with my basic understanding of the game. Or WS. I find most archetypes and powers to be pretty self explanatory but man I just can't get this  toon to be effective solo or on teams. To solo I have to set it to negative level to stand a chance.

[Laucianna]

Getting Eclipse perma is goal number 1 as that is your main source of tankiness, using things like hasten and Luck of the Gamblers to get it there, I would also suggest some Blessing of the Zephyr enhancements to bump up your kb resist, as you can slot multiple in different powers 💛

[Black_Assassin]

On 5/21/2025 at 12:27 PM, Fista said:

First I'm a filthy casual and don't have inf to burn. Second I don't use MIDS. I think its overly complex and not intuitive. It's probably great for min/maxers but not for me.

 

With that out of the way what is the conventional wisdom on power pics and slotting?  Shields over powers? Powers over shields? Evenly distributed slots? Something else?  What's the cheapest and most economical way to stop getting rag dolled? Economical in terms of power pics, slots and/or what goes in the slots.

 

I know I'll catch flack for crapping on MIDS  but I just don't get it. Probably something to do with my basic understanding of the game. Or WS. I find most archetypes and powers to be pretty self explanatory but man I just can't get this  toon to be effective solo or on teams. To solo I have to set it to negative level to stand a chance.

 

 

If you don't have the capital to invest you really shouldn't bother with human only. You get way more bang for your buck playing triformer. 

 

https://dechskaison.blogspot.com/2011/01/mfing-warshade.html

[Six-Six]

Totally doable. I have both a WS and PB reach incarnates on the cheap. Both are human only because my feeble brain can't handle controlling tri-forms. Both are also failed Hardcore Permadeath toons, meaning they should've been deleted once they died; but they were so fun to play and they died in the high 40s (just a wee bit more) that I continued playing them.

I was pretty much a hover blaster cycling through the first 3 primaries. I then built up res/def with the secondaries and pool powers. once those were in a comfortable range (do note that I'm used to playing Blasters and Doms, so a comfortable def/res for me is a rather low number) then I took the melee powers and mixed up the fighting style blinking to and from melee and ranged using combat TP. Also as a Blaster veteran, I know my way around mez. 

 

self heal, max hp and self recovery are nice. I don't team so I don't need to heal others. other powers pretty much depend on your playing style. I suggest you give each a go for a few levels. there's always a respec if you want to change your mind.

Slotting, I just use SOs levelling up, only switching to IOs around 35, by which time I had made enough inf to get the ones I need. I also just loaded the attack powers with whatever procs I could fit in them, and very minimal ATOs. Of course, all of my toons slot the important PVP ones (Panacea +hp/regen, Shield Wall +res, Glad Armour +def) as well as the Miracle, Numina, Steadfast, etc. 

Note that if you plan to team even a little, it would be wise to slot a kb-kd where appropriate, as most teams hate kb.
 

[Mini-Mega]

i only play human WS , and PB. 

 

as a WS Stygian circle, and eclipse are 2 main powers that will keep you alive. 

 

Stygian circle uses the defeated foes around you for +HP/+end

eclipse is +res (ALL DMG) .

 

 

[Mini-Mega]

this would be the budget version of the same build i run, the numbers are pretty similar. 

[Psyonico]

On 5/21/2025 at 4:27 AM, Fista said:

What's the cheapest and most economical way to stop getting rag dolled? Economical in terms of power pics, slots and/or what goes in the slots.

Blessing of the Zephyr costs about 1.5-2 million most of the time, use the base slot in the ally teleport power and put that in there.

 

4 knock back protection does a surprising amount of heavy lifting.

[Jacke]

1 hour ago, Psyonico said:

Blessing of the Zephyr costs about 1.5-2 million most of the time, use the base slot in the ally teleport power and put that in there.

 

4 knock back protection does a surprising amount of heavy lifting.

 

Exactly.  And it's usually even cheaper to buy the L10 Recipe (the lowest Level, the cheapest to craft, and able to slot it as early as possible, there's no need to Market Attune this IO) and the Invention Salvage to craft it yourself.

 

 

[Six-Six]

Here's a quick tip on making inf for the IOs you need.

IOs suck early in the game, so the acc/dmg or def/end you want to slot will pale in comparison to a regular SO at the same level. however, they do lose efficacy as you level. Off the top of my head, it probably costs around 2-5m just to keep upgrading the SOs. IOs overtake SOs at around level 35. I just slot the procs as early as I can if I have them. otherwise, unless it's a set bonus I'm chasing (blessing of the zephyr's 3pc set bonus is really good aoe def + kb protection) then I'm not in any rush to procure IO sets.

1) peruse the AH for cheap yellow recipes of crappy IOs such as annoyance. if you're lucky, you can buy those recipes for 1 or 10inf. Then it costs >20k to craft them.

2) as you do missions, you earn merits, trade merits for converters. You can either sell converters for like 50-60k for a quick buck. Or use the converters to randomise crappy IOs to in-demand ones. Sell those and one pop could net you 3-6m.
 

3) craft, convert, sell. If you have crafted level-locked IOs slotted, just do a respec to unslot them periodically for free. Then sell the level-locked IOs on the AH and then buy the exact same IO, but attuned. saves on catalysts.

 in no time, you'll have enough inf to fund your toon.

*run the summer blockbuster. it will reward you with an Overwhelming Force IO, which you can convert to get a free KB-KD IO.
Market Crash will reward you with a free purple recipe.

[Fista]

Thanks everyone for the help.