Eliminate Fire Imps -1 level shift

[Uun]

Now that MM henchmen and Gremlins all spawn at the caster's level, Fire Imps are the only pets that spawn at -1. Time to get rid of this.

[DrRocket]

would love to see the imps go back to live days where you could spawn randomly between the 3 to 5 of them, but to avoid being overpowered retain the limit to 5., unlike the old days where there was no limit.

[Uun]

57 minutes ago, DrRocket said:

would love to see the imps go back to live days where you could spawn randomly between the 3 to 5 of them, but to avoid being overpowered retain the limit to 5., unlike the old days where there was no limit.

You're conflating two separate changes. The number of imps summoned was once variable (2-5) and was changed to always summon 3 in Issue 5 (August 2005). In the same issue they eliminated the stacking of controller pets (which allowed you to have multiple sets out) but increased their duration to be essentially permanent.

 

BTW, the -1 level shift wasn't instituted until December 2006.

[Shin Magmus]

   Yep, Fire Imps need the level penalty removed + damage slightly adjusted to compensate + Containment bonus damage increased to account for the DoT (it is currently too low on Controllers).

[Yomo Kimyata]

Well, if you are dead set against balance, why not replace fire imps with a summonable Baphomet?  Since there is only one they have no justification to make it at -1 level to you, and that should amp up your damage nicely.

[tidge]

Any level shift change would also end up with ToHit penalties, just like for MM henchmen.

[Riverdusk]

I'd agree.

 

I'd point to electric control that gets 2 gremlin pets that spawn at +0.  Or is having 3 the magic cutoff?

[Uun]

40 minutes ago, Riverdusk said:

I'd point to electric control that gets 2 gremlin pets that spawn at +0.  Or is having 3 the magic cutoff?

Gremlins previously spawned at -1 and were changed to +0 in i28p2.

[srmalloy]

On 11/29/2025 at 4:36 AM, DrRocket said:

would love to see the imps go back to live days where you could spawn randomly between the 3 to 5 of them, but to avoid being overpowered retain the limit to 5., unlike the old days where there was no limit.

And while we're at it, let's go back to the Live days when your Controller's pets would die every time you went up or down an elevator, so that you'd have to wait for the summon to recharge.   😝