TheAdjustor Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Quote -Remove melee from bots so they stop running up to things to slap them. (The leading cause of death for robots fighting mobs with deadly melee.) Strongly agree, and there is a whole thread devoted to fixing the last "fix" of pets, that resulted in so many problems.
Doc_Scorpion Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 3 hours ago, PaxArcana said: I don't know about "more effective", but, Aid Other certainly has a much faster recharge time. Repair has three times the range (80ft vs 25 ft) of Aid Other. It's got an annoying long recharge, but it's not without it's uses. Unofficial Homecoming Wiki - Paragon Wiki updated for Homecoming! Your contributions are welcome! (Not the owner/operator - just a fan who wants to spread the word.)
PaxArcana Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 I could run in, slap an Aid Other on a pet, then run back ... something like TWICE, for every one use of Repair. At least. Repair as it stands is the next thing to useless. Global Handle: @PaxArcana ... Home servers on Live: Freedom & Virtue ... Home Server on HC: Torchbearer Archetype: Casual Gamer ... Powersets: Forum Melee / Neckbeard ... Kryptonite: Altoholism
Some Random User Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, Doc_Scorpion said: Repair has three times the range (80ft vs 25 ft) of Aid Other. It's got an annoying long recharge, but it's not without it's uses. On 9/17/2019 at 8:15 PM, Weylin said: This is the build I'm working on, but I want to get it just right before I do a respec and work towards getting those enhancements. My primary goal is maximizing henchman survival Any feedback is appreciated. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.2https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Tammy Starforge: Level 50 Technology Mastermind Primary Power Set: Robotics Secondary Power Set: Force Field Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Flight Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Pulse Rifle Blast Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Apc-Acc/Rchg(34), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apc-Dam%(37) Level 1: Force Bolt OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(13), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(13), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(19), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(33), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(33) Level 2: Battle Drones ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(3), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(11), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(5), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(5) Level 4: Deflection Shield LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(23) Level 6: Pulse Rifle Burst SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(11) Level 8: Insulation Shield LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(25) Level 10: Equip Robot EndRdx-I(A) Level 12: Protector Bots SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(43), EdcoftheM-PetDef(43), SvrRgh-PetResDam(43) Level 14: Photon Grenade Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(15), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Rgn-Knock%(17) Level 16: Kick FrcFdb-Rechg%(A) Level 18: Repair EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(45), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(46), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(48) Level 20: Dispersion Bubble LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(21) Level 22: Tough UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), ImpSki-Status(23), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33) Level 24: Weave Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45) Level 26: Assault Bot SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(27), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SlbAll-Build%(31), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(31) Level 28: Combat Jumping LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(29), Ksm-ToHit+(45) Level 30: Repulsion Field EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39) Level 32: Upgrade Robot EndRdx-I(A) Level 35: Repulsion Bomb SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(37) Level 38: Force Bubble EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39) Level 41: Maneuvers Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def(42) Level 44: Fly BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 47: Scorpion Shield LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(48) Level 49: Power Boost RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50) Level 1: Brawl GldStr-%Dam(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge Empty(A) Level 1: Sprint UnbLea-Stlth(A) Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest Heal-I(A) Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift Run-I(A) Level 2: Health Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(21), Mrc-Rcvry+(40), RgnTss-Regen+(40), Prv-Absorb%(48) Level 2: Hurdle Jump-I(A) Level 2: Stamina PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(50) Level 50: Agility Core Paragon Level 50: Ion Judgement Level 50: Degenerative Core Interface Level 50: Polar Lights Core Superior Ally ------------ http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1528&c=713&a=1426&f=HEX&dc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obo FF Auras Weylin.mxd 5.29 kB · 7 downloads On 9/8/2019 at 1:48 AM, Hyperstrike said: Basically Bots/FF is the Tankiest of the MM builds in terms of raw Defense delivered. Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic MastermindPrimary Power Set: RoboticsSecondary Power Set: Force FieldPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: FlightAncillary Pool: Mace Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Pulse Rifle Blast -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Apc-Acc/Rchg(34), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apc-Dam%(37)Level 1: Force Bolt -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(13), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(13), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(19), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(33), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(33)Level 2: Battle Drones -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(3), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(3), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(5), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(11)Level 4: Deflection Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)Level 6: Pulse Rifle Burst -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(11)Level 8: Insulation Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)Level 10: Equip Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 12: Photon Grenade -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(43), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Rgn-Knock%(43)Level 14: Protector Bots -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(19)Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)Level 18: Repair -- EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(45), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(46), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(48)Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-ResDam%(21)Level 22: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)Level 24: Weave -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45)Level 26: Assault Bot -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(27), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(29), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(31)Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(29), Ksm-ToHit+(45)Level 30: Repulsion Field -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 35: Repulsion Bomb -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(37)Level 38: Force Bubble -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39)Level 41: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42)Level 44: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)Level 47: Scorpion Shield -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48)Level 49: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 1: SupremacyLevel 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja RunLevel 2: Swift -- Empty(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(40), Mrc-Rcvry+(40), RgnTss-Regen+(48), Prv-Absorb%(50)Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(50)Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids' Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1462;661;1322;HEX;| |78DA6593D94F135118C5EFB453B114A40865DF8A4059A7ADA0BE49E28289D284B8A| |0BE586B5BCA2485362D24FAE8836FEE2FFE0BEE4F2EE0829AB8FE0FB8FD012C8AAF| |A67ECC3950E24C3AF9F59EEFDE73CF7C772672F150D9E323978795E63D988EE5F3D| |1482C3F93CC4D99D30957249632E34E255789DC0DC54AF4C4ECD45466DA389EB990| |9931E3F9C62DA503B31313C64826174F4647CC643AA1CAC73299B43162A62667CCE| |95499351A4DC6B232A8D8182492B9FCA499F5606A7A7D6ED3E1AC1937B618476262| |89F1A53AC9D325F7BC4BF12AE86AC0A15458577E830C9221B0230C9ED337D7B8D4A| |2D3D2CABE92DFC09DDFC1B61FE44FF085ECA771ADB6023FC72AF90BD47F936B60E9| |1F302AFB3AB156397D9AA5BD143F17FD5C77754BDB768FBC0F6E7F403E044B1F81E| |7759CCBBA5F09FD5E89999B9ADBAF2CEDB5681EF6C833882C3D4360EF1E722FB90F| |5C9035E5CC55FE1ECFBEE303F911F47E223FB3675F408784AAD090A1E20AFCDE885| |F25FD2AAF42EBBF060E5C276F9037C1E02D302ECF59053F47D532F6A85E21D740A7| |ECE9C31C97AF5DFE047455D342B682757EB06537CFB456C6CD724EB2B696FEB5F4A| |FA37FFF31F0ADE4AF67FEFA93E87FC329721C6C3A0DB69C21CF8235E2DF48FF469E| |535335D8FF5759191232B519FE8E669E5BD706D9C37792A19567DBCA5A52D6B5335| |7FB13ECB7EB29F98C7C0E76CC91F3E084A0136BB5CEFFF6AC94CCDDC8AC7533730F| |337BA4D6C71C7D8BC836276D3238DF600F83ECA15BE687580BD12BEC651F8ADFA2F| |CE452BD36256453C23665D0A60CD994519B12292A85317DF3CB569A55757B37BFD7| |C252A954B5ADD595A2A26B7E3C69601C4F15388A372DB81F6F587809F5659BCB6A5| |1716A77D0CBC06D7EA36D388B30395C25C0DCC23F22E8F001| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| On 8/15/2019 at 3:53 PM, Justisaur said: I have a bots/cold but only IOs I just slapped him together and he works fine, he's around 40, I stopped playing him because he's kinda boring, he probably does better than any of my other MMs were at that level, though. I did take repair so I'd be able to help keep my bots up, and I found taking one of the attacks useful as I otherwise had nothing else to do. Here were three quotes I found within a minute or so of looking. Thank you, @Doc_Scorpion, for being a standup human being. @DR_Mechano @Bossk_Hogg Edited October 1, 2019 by Some Random User added the @ tags
DR_Mechano Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 Just because some builds have it does not mean that it doesn't need buffs. Repair really does need to have its recharge time cut down imo since it is a heal that only applies to henchmen, not to self or allies. For what it is the recharge really is aggressive. 1
Bossk_Hogg Posted October 1, 2019 Posted October 1, 2019 (edited) Do you actually HAVE the power or are you just kneejerk defending it? Because I cannot fathom how anyone who took it and uses it would find it remotely OK, particularly compared to the other set's level 18 pet powers that act as slot mules, something bots really needs to be better able slot the KB to KD enhancer/procs. Edited October 1, 2019 by Bossk_Hogg 1
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