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-Remove melee from bots so they stop running up to things to slap them.

  (The leading cause of death for robots fighting mobs with deadly melee.)

Strongly agree, and there is a whole thread devoted to fixing the last "fix" of pets, that resulted in so many problems.

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3 hours ago, PaxArcana said:

I don't know about "more effective", but, Aid Other certainly has a much faster recharge time.

Repair has three times the range (80ft vs 25 ft) of Aid Other.  It's got an annoying long recharge, but it's not without it's uses.

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I could run in, slap an Aid Other on a pet, then run back ... something like TWICE, for every one use of Repair.  At least.

Repair as it stands is the next thing to useless.

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1 hour ago, Doc_Scorpion said:

Repair has three times the range (80ft vs 25 ft) of Aid Other.  It's got an annoying long recharge, but it's not without it's uses.

On 9/17/2019 at 8:15 PM, Weylin said:

This is the build I'm working on, but I want to get it just right before I do a respec and work towards getting those enhancements.

My primary goal is maximizing henchman survival

 

Any feedback is appreciated.

 

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Tammy Starforge: Level 50 Technology Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Hero Profile:
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Level 1:    Pulse Rifle Blast        Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Apc-Acc/Rchg(34), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apc-Dam%(37)
Level 1:    Force Bolt            OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(13), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(13), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(19), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(33), SuddAcc--KB/+KD(33)
Level 2:    Battle Drones            ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(3), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(11), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(5), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets)(5)
Level 4:    Deflection Shield        LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(23)
Level 6:    Pulse Rifle Burst        SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(11)
Level 8:    Insulation Shield        LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(25)
Level 10:    Equip Robot            EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12:    Protector Bots            SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(43), EdcoftheM-PetDef(43), SvrRgh-PetResDam(43)
Level 14:    Photon Grenade            Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(15), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(17), Rgn-Knock%(17)
Level 16:    Kick                FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 18:    Repair                EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(45), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(46), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(48)
Level 20:    Dispersion Bubble        LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(21)
Level 22:    Tough                UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), ImpSki-Status(23), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)
Level 24:    Weave                Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45)
Level 26:    Assault Bot            SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(27), SlbAll-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SlbAll-Build%(31), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(31)
Level 28:    Combat Jumping            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(29), Ksm-ToHit+(45)
Level 30:    Repulsion Field            EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)
Level 32:    Upgrade Robot            EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35:    Repulsion Bomb            SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(37)
Level 38:    Force Bubble            EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 41:    Maneuvers            Rct-Def/EndRdx(A), Rct-Def(42)
Level 44:    Fly                BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 47:    Scorpion Shield            LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), DefBuff-I(48)
Level 49:    Power Boost            RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(50), RechRdx-I(50)
Level 1:    Brawl                GldStr-%Dam(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Dash        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Slide        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Quick        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Rush        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Prestige Power Surge        Empty(A)
Level 1:    Sprint                UnbLea-Stlth(A)
Level 1:    Supremacy    
Level 2:    Rest                Heal-I(A)
Level 4:    Ninja Run    
Level 2:    Swift                Run-I(A)
Level 2:    Health                Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(21), Mrc-Rcvry+(40), RgnTss-Regen+(40), Prv-Absorb%(48)
Level 2:    Hurdle                Jump-I(A)
Level 2:    Stamina                PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(50)
Level 50:    Agility Core Paragon    
Level 50:    Ion Judgement    
Level 50:    Degenerative Core Interface    
Level 50:    Polar Lights Core Superior Ally    
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On 9/8/2019 at 1:48 AM, Hyperstrike said:

Basically Bots/FF is the Tankiest of the MM builds in terms of raw Defense delivered.
 

 

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Level 50 Magic Mastermind
Primary Power Set: Robotics
Secondary Power Set: Force Field
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Flight
Ancillary Pool: Mace Mastery

Villain Profile:
Level 1: Pulse Rifle Blast -- Apc-Dmg/Rchg(A), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(34), Apc-Acc/Rchg(34), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Apc-Dam%(37)
Level 1: Force Bolt -- OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg(A), OvrFrc-End/Rech(13), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End(13), OvrFrc-Dmg/End/Rech(19), OvrFrc-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(33), OvrFrc-Dam/KB(33)
Level 2: Battle Drones -- ExpRnf-Acc/Rchg(A), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg(3), ExpRnf-Dmg/EndRdx(3), ExpRnf-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(5), ExpRnf-EndRdx/Dmg/Rchg(5), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets)(11)
Level 4: Deflection Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 6: Pulse Rifle Burst -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(7), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(9), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(11)
Level 8: Insulation Shield -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A)
Level 10: Equip Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 12: Photon Grenade -- Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(43), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(43), Rgn-Knock%(43)
Level 14: Protector Bots -- SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef(19)
Level 16: Kick -- FrcFdb-Rechg%(A)
Level 18: Repair -- EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(45), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-Acc/Rchg(46), EffAdp-EndMod/Acc(46), EffAdp-EndMod/EndRdx(48)
Level 20: Dispersion Bubble -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(21), Rct-ResDam%(21)
Level 22: Tough -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(23), RctArm-ResDam/Rchg(23), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(25), GldArm-3defTpProc(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(33)
Level 24: Weave -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(45)
Level 26: Assault Bot -- SprMarofS-Dmg(A), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx(27), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg(27), SprMarofS-Acc/EndRdx(29), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen(31)
Level 28: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(29), Ksm-ToHit+(45)
Level 30: Repulsion Field -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39), FrcFdb-Rechg%(39)
Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 35: Repulsion Bomb -- SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(37), SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc(37)
Level 38: Force Bubble -- EndRdx-I(A), EndRdx-I(39)
Level 41: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(42)
Level 44: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A)
Level 47: Scorpion Shield -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(48)
Level 49: Hover -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Supremacy
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(40), Mrc-Rcvry+(40), RgnTss-Regen+(48), Prv-Absorb%(50)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(40), EndMod-I(42), EndMod-I(50)
Level 50: Cardiac Core Paragon
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On 8/15/2019 at 3:53 PM, Justisaur said:

I have a bots/cold but only IOs I just slapped him together and he works fine, he's around 40, I stopped playing him because he's kinda boring, he probably does better than any of my other MMs were at that level, though.   I did take repair so I'd be able to help keep my bots up, and I found taking one of the attacks useful as I otherwise had nothing else to do.

Here were three quotes I found within a minute or so of looking. Thank you, @Doc_Scorpion, for being a standup human being.

@DR_Mechano

@Bossk_Hogg

 

Edited by Some Random User
added the @ tags
Posted

Just because some builds have it does not mean that it doesn't need buffs. Repair really does need to have its recharge time cut down imo since it is a heal that only applies to henchmen, not to self or allies. For what it is the recharge really is aggressive.

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Do you actually HAVE the power or are you just kneejerk defending it? Because I cannot fathom how anyone who took it and uses it would find it remotely OK, particularly compared to the other set's level 18 pet powers that act as slot mules, something bots really needs to be better able slot the KB to KD enhancer/procs.

Edited by Bossk_Hogg
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