PeregrineFalcon

Yes, people are tired of seeing this thread at the top of the "All Activity" list. And, since they don't have the self-control necessary to just not click on a thread that they're tired of, they all start posting "Ok, it's over, shut it down." And yes, it is hypocritical when people post that they're going to disagree with your posts whether you like it or not and then they turn around and demand that the thread be shut down, but it's been standard procedure since this forum first opened. Like I said, most of you want so desperately to control what other people are allowed to say and how they're allowed to say it. Maybe you all should apply to be moderators. In the meantime, I'm going to continue to disagree with suggestions that I disagree with, and yes I am being excellent to everyone. Now I'm going to go party on.

Is that why you keep participating?

So the last week on the forum has seemed a little odd to me. First we had a thread where someone was claiming that we shouldn't be allowed to just react to a post that we should be required to actually post a response and say something. Then we had a thread where someone else proposed a list of restrictions on what we should post if we do respond. While both of those posts are contradictory, they both have one thing in common. Advocating for further restrictions on what/how we're allowed to post on this forum. So I guess my question is: Why do you so many of you want so desperately to control what others are allowed to say, or how they're allowed to say it?

I don't have an example of one of my suggestions being implemented in game, but I do have an example of a suggestion thread that I made where people didn't disagree with the suggestion I was making, some people even added stuff and improved upon my suggestion. It's time to develop the Shadow Shard Zones! So I'd like to submit that if you're unhappy that suggestions you like are not being wholeheartedly agreed with that you consider the possibility that they're just bad suggestions.

Yes. The unresolved issue is that people now days are immature, and they get shocked and horrified when people disagree with something they are saying. Too many decades of tone policing and participation trophies have lead to a generation of people who are so soft that they literally can't stand it when people don't slavishly agree with whatever nonsense falls out of their pie-hole.

Because the truth is that this thread is exactly the same as all other complaint threads in the suggestions forum. It's dressed up as one thing or another but the truth is that the real objection is that the person is upset because no one agreed with his suggestion. And so now, he's trying to make it so that people aren't allowed to disagree with his suggestion. We've had many other threads exactly like this one over the years.

Ok, and? Once again those handful of posters have been told, by a mod, that they're specifically allowed to do that. So your objection appears to me to be "people are doing something that a mod specifically said they're allowed to do and I don't like it!" Here, I'll even quote the relevant portion of the mod's post: “Don’t leave your child unattended.” In short, any suggestion made in this forum will be thoroughly examined by all of us, changed, ripped up, and added-on to until it’s possible that the resulting idea doesn’t resemble what you suggested in the first place. You need to allow others to add more consideration to your idea. If you find yourself having a problem with this, a good idea may be running your initial idea by friends first for feedback before sharing it here.

So, once again, your issue appears to be with the way people word their posts. Also, people are not, nor should they be, required to come up with a solution. "Don't point out a problem if you don't have a solution." Is the kind of thing that lazy middle managers say during meetings when they don't want their people to shoot down their stupid ideas. "This won't work because our delivery vans cannot fly" is a perfectly rational objection to a stupid middle manager suggestion. And when he responds with "Well, what would you suggest?" My answer will be "I don't know, but then again I'm not management. It's not my job to come up with solutions, it's yours. That's why you get paid the big bucks. But I'm telling you that it's a fact that our delivery vans cannot fly, they are ground vehicles." Similarly, suggestions like "everything should be free!!!!!" is a suggestion that I can disagree with, explain why it's a bad idea, and there is no solution for. TL;DR: You don't get to tell people how they're allowed to word their posts.

Sure. Here's a post made by a mod where they specifically explain how this forum works. Please pay special attention to the part where the mod specifically says we're allowed to disagree with suggestions. I agree with you on this. Of course we're not voting. No one here believes that we are. But that's simply an artifact of language. You're nit picking the way people phrase their posts. Not everyone is a lawyer who picks their words carefully so as to be certain that you don't have a specific adjective to hand your objection on. The mod post above specifically says "Assume Good Will." So just take their post how it's meant instead of arguing semantics. Sure it is. I shoot down ideas all the time. I'm allowed to do that. If you don't like it then feel free to log in to your moderator account and sanction me. I hate to say it but you're the one who's confused. Everything you're saying I can't do a moderator has already specifically said that I am allowed to do. And, since you're not a moderator, you have no say in the matter. You keep asking for a mod's opinion, but I've already linked you to a post with the official opinion of the mods. It's no one's fault but your own if you choose not to read it. CASE DISMISSED!

Because, quite often, people just want to let you know their opinion of your post without confrontation, without the arguments, the nit picking, the goal-post moving, and without worrying that they'll post something that will trigger draconian moderation. So if you really want better discussions on this forum, quit being dicks to each other, and stop speed shotgunning the report button every time someone posts something that you don't like.

Here's why that won't work:

Well, at least no one's going to accuse them of releasing a trailer with far better graphics than what's in game, as a lot of games have done in the past. Personally I think the graphics look better than City of Heroes, but the character animations look. . . I don't know. Weird? Cheap? Cheap, like they couldn't afford to hire someone who was good at doing character animations. I don't remember the character animations being that bad in the beta tests. Maybe I was looking at the world and not paying attention to the animations.

I was in a couple of the earlier beta tests. It seems like it has a lot of potential. I'm worried that it won't have enough content at launch to keep people around. I'll be playing it at launch, but I don't know for how long. Maybe it'll be one of those games that I just play for awhile after each update.

Not disagreeing with you, but is he wrong? And can anyone prove that alien sparklebugs only do "mediocre DPS" with the cheat? Or am I just supposed to take peoples' word for it?