[New Player - Old CoH Player]

welcome back to the city!

[I may have a problem...]

Thundercats - Ho!

[Is bothering people heroic?]

Does this count as annoying?

[The new Steel Vahz arc is fun on a team]

I have no idea what the story is.  I was on a team so I just played through the missions.  It was a tough but fun challenge.  We were at +0 and we had many people defeated including a couple of wipes.  It felt fair - we just needed to be more careful. 

Great maps, very thematic.  And it has Freaks that are apparently on red side but I haven't seen on blue side, so a bit more variety than freaks normally get.

[Happy Thanksgiving]

Thank you devs!

[The Good, the Bad, the Fugly [ issue 27 ]]

I am impressed with the sheer volume of stuff in this patch.

 

Is this still stuff that was being worked on in Live or is this the new devs development now?

[Stealth nerf to doorways?]

With the patch out, enemies seem to push past me more easily when I try to block a door in an office building.

 

I assume this is a stealth nerf to doorways

[Occassionally amidst all of the effects I can actually see the villains]

1 hour ago, KaizenSoze said:

Make a stalker and then you can get close and look at the all the details.

 

An amazing amount work of work was done.

 

I need to do that.  There are several villain groups at high level that I've never really seen well.

[Occassionally amidst all of the effects I can actually see the villains]

1 hour ago, Rathulfr said:

 

I remember when (after I put a decent graphics card into my desktop) I discovered that the Nemesis Warhulks

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actually had pilots sitting inside the tanks of green goo.  

That blew my mind.

 

 

That is just what I noticed on close up as well. 

[Occassionally amidst all of the effects I can actually see the villains]

And I always amazed when I do at how cool they look.  Fighting Nemesis the other night and got a good look at the hulks and some of the other machines.  The level of detail is fantastic.

 

I just have no complaints about the graphics - old game or not it looks great.

[Holds vs other controls (Is Sleep better than Knockback)]

Sleep is great solo if you are not an AoE character.  It has a long duration making an aoe sleep better than an aoe hold.  But in teams it is generally only useful for stopping adds. 

 

However, a repeatedly applying sleep like in electric control is great even on teams.  It will work on bosses when hold doesn't.  It has a long duration for the field that does the reapplying - so you get more held time out of it than an aoe hold.  Also, you can drop the aoe sleep from around a corner.  So you can prevent almost the entire alpha with it.  The hold effect is better than the sleep effect, but the aoe sleep power is better than the aoe hold power.

[Seeing that an 8 player team defeated Hami - What do the Devs think of the power creep ?]

40 minutes ago, Ukase said:

I could be wrong, but on one end of the spectrum, I see people upset because their characters aren't "super".

 

This is simply something people claim that is not true.  You can make any AT with any powerset and no enhancements, get them to level 50 - the go back and wipe out hordes of villains in Perez Park with no risk to yourself.  You can one shot them.  You can one shot hordes.  You can be as "super" as you like.

 

But people don't do that.  Because they don't want to be "super".

 

People want to be rewarded for doing things quickly with no challenge.  They pretend that is being "super".  But if you take the reward away they won't do it.  It is not the being "super" that matters.

[Seeing that an 8 player team defeated Hami - What do the Devs think of the power creep ?]

3 hours ago, Ironblade said:

What's your point?  You're describing things that, as you correctly state, do not require skill.

We were talking about about something that does require skill - in both planning and execution.

 

"I don't care if players want to use godmode to do whatever they want.  I do mind when I join a team and a godmode player solos the team content and ruins my experience. "

 

If you read the thread you will know what you are responding to.

[Seeing that an 8 player team defeated Hami - What do the Devs think of the power creep ?]

3 hours ago, Ukase said:

What you mean is it would be nice to have a server where a lot of people enjoyed playing the content the same way you enjoy it. 

I will concede the point that many don't play "godmode" because they lack the resources. 
I will concede the point that many don't play "godmode" because they don't understand game mechanics. 
I will concede the point that many don't play "godmode" because they haven't figured out how to use Mids. 
I will concede the point that many don't play "godmode" because for whatever reason they don't enjoy finishing a Master of Magisterium trial in one run which takes less than 5 minutes. 


But this distinction you make between "godmode" and "skill play" requires further explanation, because if you think for one split second that these "godmode" players aren't highly skilled, you are really missing the mark. 

 

Right.  Many people don't play godmode because they can't look at a forum post on a godmode build and look at another forum post on how to farm or just make money on the market.  Because it takes so much skill to look those things up and then copy them.

 

But I do need some explanation.  When a character has soft capped defense, what player skill is required to stop enemies from hitting them?  Does the RNG do a player skill check before deciding if the attack hits?

 

Because see players who farm, possibly just door sitting to do it, copy someone else's build, and then with huge IO set bonuses can solo x8 spawns at level 25 - I don't see any player skill that is obvious.  But perhaps you can explain to me the skill that they have that I am not seeing.

[Seeing that an 8 player team defeated Hami - What do the Devs think of the power creep ?]

3 hours ago, ShardWarrior said:

Alternatively, you can find others who have a similar mindset and team up together. 

 

Right.  And having the game make that easier to do would be nice.

 

[No New Badges Ever]

I tried to earn 50 badges in one day.  I only earned 49 badges but then I earned a badge for earning more badges in one day than anyone in history.

[Seeing that an 8 player team defeated Hami - What do the Devs think of the power creep ?]

Having godmode characters is fine if you isolate them.  I don't care if players want to use godmode to do whatever they want.  I do mind when I join a team and a godmode player solos the team content and ruins my experience.

 

At least incarnate is limited to the high levels.  But set bonuses let players use godmode at any level. 

 

It would be nice to have godmode servers and skill play servers.

[Comic Book Heroes with Super Jump?]

11 minutes ago, CursedSorcerer said:

Granted, I don't think of Super Jump as his MAIN Travel Power. I think of Flight as that.

When he was created he could only superjump.  Flying was added later.

[AE Mission Needs Testing]

Mission Contact - looks sufficiently odd.

First mission intro text is great.  A good mix of rhyming and flavor but understandable.  Except "when your there" should be "when you're there".

 

Mission 1: a ton of NPC text comes up when I enter, so it is wasted.  A lot of things to do on the mission which I like, but it looks like it is a defeat all which is terrible - it makes the other tasks pointless. 

 

interesting map.  But huge.  And cabal are a pain in the open since they scatter instead of staying in melee.  The mix of villains makes no sense and is not explained.

 

The boss villain names are not inspiring.  "Marsha" does not impress.  I would rename.

 

I finish the tasks and find it seems I am expected to defeat all.  While the intro text was good, the rest is just average and I am not willing to slog through a large map to clear all of the cabal to get to the next part.  I quit.

 

Remove the defeat all from Mission 1 and I would play more.  But defeat all on a huge map is just drudgery.

 

[Def vs Def I'm confused]

14 minutes ago, TOddSkinRash said:

do these three cover all the same things?  Or are they separate mechanics and should all be considered...

 

They do the same thing and do not stack.  The game figures out which defense is better against a given attack - an aoe fire attack looks at your aoe defense and fire defense.  You use the better defense.  So in theory if you have all positions covered you are done, no need for def by type - and vice versa.

 

 

[That Positron 1 TF started badly]

5 minutes ago, Patti said:

Why doesn't Doug have a picture yet?  Doug needs a picture.

 

I now have an icon.  Doug Graves, secret identity of the Tomb Fisted Kid.

[That Positron 1 TF started badly]

Joined a Positron 1 TF with my 24ish level controller.   I was the 7th to join.  We waited a bit to find an 8th.  Then decided to go with 7.  We start.  The leader is level 8, so it is a level 8 TF.  One player says sorry, he doesn't want to play at level 8 so he quits as we start the first mission.  Someone else silently quit.  So we had a team of 5 at level 8 doing Positron 1.

 

It was really fun.  We had a decent mix of AT's.  No tanker, so our defender charged in and took the alpha - not a plan, they were just aggressive).  Some quick healing would keep him alive most of the time.  With only 5 of us, each person really mattered.  And at level 8, each power really mattered.

 

The whole TF was less chaos.  Spawns were small enough  that they did not occupy the whole map.  And at level 8 there were no Ruin Mages - so that was nice.

 

I normally just assume we will try to fill a team, but unfilled teams might be more fun.

[Ever feel useless (Support woes)]

13 hours ago, Six Six said:

Here's another way of looking at things.

The team doesn't need a tank. (all archer team, all spider team, etc.)
The team doesn't need dps. (tanker tuesdays, thursdays, whateverdays)
The team doesn't NEED anything, but is happy to have you whatever AT or role you play. the team is greater than the sum of its parts.

 

Yes, but that is looking at something else entirely.

 

"Does not need a specific AT" is about the need for a specific AT.

 

"My character may as well not even be there" is about whether or not your character is actually useful.

 

We do not want a specific AT to be needed.  We do want our characters to actually matter.  If your character being played or being afk has no impact on how the team does, that is a problem.

[Overwhelming Overpower: A Controller Inherent Buff - Control AVs and GMs!]

The idea is that holding a solo mob is too powerful.  If they cannot do anything, they will just lose.  Which is why controls generally do not work against AVs and GMs.

 

But the devs can decide on a specific effect that is okay to do to the boss and have the stacked controls cause that effect.

 

So it lets controls have an effect, but not the overpowering effect that they normally have.

[Overwhelming Overpower: A Controller Inherent Buff - Control AVs and GMs!]

10 hours ago, Blackfeather said:

Having a read through the description, it sounds a little bit like a global magnitude system - instead of each status effect contributing to break down a separate magnitude protection score, each one works to wear off a single point of protection, with the added caveat that magnitude can continuously build and not wear off over time. Would that be a correct summation?

 

It is not a wearing off of protection, because the effect when you get rid of the bar is not that the control works - although you could do that.  Instead the effect differs depending upon the boss.

 

A boss might have damage resistance 50% unreducable, but when the bar is broken it goes away temporarily.  Or they might regenerate while the bar is up but stop regenerating while the bar is down.  Or they might have a damage aura while the bar is up, but it goes away while the bar is down. 

 

So controllers do not hold bosses, the can debuff them with controls in a way that is specific to the boss.  It has to be part of the design for each boss.