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Same. Even had me potentially interested in one day revamping my mind/dark dom to include the other revamps to mind, like the new TK clump

CoH isnt going to grow if you get your way and it isn’t going to die if you don’t get your way. HC has made some imo mind meltingly stupid decisions and even THOSE have barely moved the needle. This game will continue because quite simply a lot of people are diehards for it. Outside of HC straight up quitting theres almost no way it’ll shut down. Also there’s four ways to solve end even before teaming and quite a few have been said already but to add: -Ageless -Carry blues -Slot quintessential +End and recov IOs -Survival amps.

https://news.xbox.com/en-us/2025/06/08/xbox-handheld-rog-ally-x-games-showcase/ Old news at this point but what are your thoughts on this? I personally am hoping to nab one by its’ launch date, and the Pres of Xbox stated games like Silksong would be playable day one on the handheld(could mean the game launches after the handheld release but I have Silksanity hope.

I REALLY wish more people in this community understood this last part. I also 100% agree. Just because another server did it doesnt mean you cant do your own take. I get there can be some legal snafu, but on what grounds would they even sue? They’re also, at that time, operating an illegal server. And the whole “giving them ammunition to have the server taken down” Oh, because it being illegal wasn’t enough? Lmao. At this point, with my jaded hermit hat on, I think its ego based. This will naturally rub a lot of people the wrong way but thats my .02

When the game relaunched I tried getting buddies into it, they took one look, said nope and I never pushed em to try it again. I personally now would never try and get someone to try CoH who never tried it before, but if however someone was already familiar with CoH and played it in the past, I'd try as best as possible to give them an overview of the server, the current dev team and their patch history, and let them decide themselves.

Oh BTW the HC content devs are well aware the majority of players want chill and laid back content, and have no plans to, as far as im aware, make the game noticeably more difficult. They are adding HM content because there really wasnt any beforehand and it gives some kind of challenging endgame for those who want it within whats possible for CoH, but thats not going to be the entire game. Alls to say, rest assured CoH will remain casual, which again, I too enjoy.

Its not even hard games, a lot of people in this community don’t know about ANY games and legit just throw out Dark souls if any other mechanic or anything is brought up. Oh and WoW. But to address the other quotes, I said specifically I enjoy soulslikes yes. But what I also added was crash bandicoot as an example of a non soulslike game. Another I’m enjoying is Hollow Knight, another non soulslike. Crypt Custodian was another. To be perfectly clear: There are a litany of other games that are more difficult than Souls. Some soulslikes are, but ignoring them, there are platformers harder, turn based games that are harder(E33 is a perfect example), and there are lots easier but still more difficult than CoH. Like Hades, Balatro, [Redacted]… My main point was my gripe with people only using souls games like dark souls as a form of difficulty. Also just because I mentioned I liked soulslikes doesnt defeat any point. 😂

I always have to ask, do you all know there are difficult games that ARENT dark souls or do you all legit think those are the only difficult games? Thats my only gripe with these post. There are so many other challenging games, and souls games actually rank pretty mildly among them really. There are soulslikes and platformers harder than the entire souls series. I get examples n all but idk I just wish more were used, like the tried n true Crash Bandicoot 🤣 Admittedly, this stems from my own frustrations that every time I say BASIC MECHANICS should be added to certain fights in the game im met with the "Go play Dark Souls". It gets to be annoying and when those people would hit me with that my instinct says they don't play anything but CoH, because literally everyone else in modern gaming understands that there are plenty of games harder than the souls lineup. Hell, I'm playing one now that is and played a few months ago that were. They're very common actually. All that said I still appreciate how chill CoH is for the most part.

Whenever I did log in, it was usually for about 30 minutes give or take? Or maybe 45 if im people watching. It was too sporadic to say how often though, as sometimes it would be twice in a week, or recently 3+ months since my last log in. That was my stance a few months ago as of the new year at least for live servers. Now, I hop on the beta whenever a new page is put to Closed beta and test whatever new set or big thing is added, then don’t play for 6+ months other than to on a lark out of sheer boredom do a radio maybe, and log off.

Im gonna disagree slightly here. There is mastery in the form of IO usage sure, but there is no incentive or reward for it. So to me, there effectively is no mastery in the game. Whether you clear in 5 minutes or 30, you still get the same reward. There is also usually a CD period in the most valuable content(i.e iTrials and HM) where this mastery should shine the most. Also there is no depth to skill expression in this game on two fronts. Whether it's wacky builds in a team or minmaxed builds, in a team of 8, your individual skill expression is moot. Solo, I can say sure there's some there, but thats as simple as do you use insp or not as even with seriously wacky builds face tanking is the same as minmaxers with insp usage as they'll probably be hovering around the same level of defenses, that is to say, little to none. CoH is basically Stardew Valley that some people want everyone to take seriously(some argue for big boy difficulty which will never be a thing in this game as even the hardest content is miles behind modern games let alone modern MMO standards).

The thing I like about CoH HC is that I don't have to play it. Now that the raging at that sentence has simmered down 😛 let me seriously elaborate. I don't NEED to play it. In today's day and age of MMO, the goal is to keep subs at all cost. So we end up with chores in a video game, which lmao hell no. These days, as far as gaming is concerned, im almost solely on Xbox talking with friends and playing titles I missed alongside most new releases. Naturally this means months or probably going forward, years of not playing the additions to CoH. Yet, you'd never know because there isnt some limited time event(outside of seasonal stuff which Idrc anyway and/or already have) or Weekly you need to keep track of. This next one is going to appear cheeky of facetious to folks here but it's not. Thanks to the changes to powers, I have been taking advantage of gamepass and really expanding my skills in my favorite hobby; gaming! I have played more soulslikes and metroidvanias and turn based games than I ever played back in 2019-2023, all thanks to my personal disagreement with powers changes. Hell, I'd miss the game of a generation today(E33) if it weren't for the powers changes in these pages. Seriously, these changes have forced me to learn how to handle(even if it may not always appear as such on the forums/discord) things outside of my control in a much better manner, and how to find alternatives. It also keeps me excited for future pages, because it's a gamble of what new set may come and will it be enough to draw me back enough to add CoH into my entertainment schedule.

I have. They're terrible tbh. And I love salads! But yeah those are shit.

No they wouldnt they hate anchovies. Why cant you people understand someone just doesn't like something and wont play it? THEY. DONT. LIKE. ANCHOVIES. No matter how they're used, no matter where they are, they hate em. The simple response if you disagree instead of being stubborn as hell is to *gasp* accept they dont like it, and stop trying to force them to try something they dont like. I mean goddamn... Why is this hard to understand? *Not directed entirely at you Flea, just the overall mentality I see so often. Look, if you all disagree with the feedback thats fine, but please stop suggesting they try something they know for themselves they wont like. I dont like the plant changes. I acknowledge the set isnt complete trash and can clear +4×8 still. I still will be shelving my plant and never touching the set ever again. Trying to get me to play the set is suggesting I waste my time. Same with OP

And I've heard the cheerleaders misread and sycophantically defend this game for years because its the only one they play. Whoopdie doo. Its a never ending roundabout at this point. Even before the first real patches rolled in I felt the relaunch of CoH was a big mistake and the shutdown was the best thing to happen to CoH, and I loved what P. Studios was doing at the time AND what HC was doing. I buried the gut feeling but looking now I see my fears were well founded and now I make another prediction: This game will be noticeably worse than Champions Online by the end of whatever cycle it reaches. It wont shut down and there won't be any DOOOOM to come to it, but it...well the best way to describe it is the Pixies when they took over Fairy World in Fairly odd parents as a kid; a grey, drab sterilized game

Exactly this. In early CoV days it was 7 corrs and a brute. Honestly the meta didnt change almost at all despite these balance attempts because they dont actually target a root cause, just make up some fear mongering bullshit, go after a not even remotely OP set, get the easily fooled community to parrot stupid shit ad infinitum, then wash rinse repeat until the whole game is shit. This happened with champions and I called it would happen here. We'll see if I end up being right but lemme tell you all left here, you won't like what that looks like. You can see it now on Champs forums(which will also be not recieving any more updates as they pivot to only discord updates lmao). I mean, this really sucks though. Thought CoH would be in my rotation of games for as long as I'm alive and now I barely log in and really only test CB things thanks to changes like these. Yeah disgruntled players make posts, but think about how many more leave unannounced and how word of mouth affects the chances of a larger playerbase.