Seed22

Killing a boss and its' minions is in no way shape or form ever tactical. Its literally just smacking up a specific mob. That's not tactical, especially if said mob is effectively no different than the fodder you've seen in the map which is usually the case. Thats pretty much the only thing baffling me. Do people really think smacking up the same type of mob but with a nametag is tactical? Speeding to it can be I guess but strangely enough, while people seem to hate kill alls, they always treat these type of mishs as a kill all instead of speed 😂

It's fascinating to watch people cling to archaic forms of minmaxing as if they understand the concept as it is today. 45% def waa never minmaxing on ATs with no DDR. It was, as most advice on the forums is with builds, misinformation that got perpetuated over and over again as to become a norm that should have never hapoened. I admit to falling for this misinformation myself when the relaunch happened in '19. But you have to look at the bigger picture. In a team, you will be buffed out the whazoo with so many stats that your pursuit of 45% will have been meaningless, and left you with oodles of lost DPS. All the while my procc'd 4* Cold/Ice fender will be shredding mobs while you pluck away at a boss for 5 minutes, because I chose to observe the current minmax meta; procs and damage with def being covered by the team. Some will try and argue they can pump out comparable damage with the 45% def toon to a procced out meta build in a team setting; you can't. Minmaxed proc builds obliterate 45% def builds in every single way possible with attack chains hitting for 400+. And thats on the low end before factoring in native damage and AT modifiers. My point being, the forums needs to catch up with and understand the current meta before trying to comment on and change the definition of proper minmax in relation to CoH. *Its also not meta to 45% def cap solo. Insp will cover any and all def you can want while ALSO pumping damage and acc.

The moderation on these forums have been absolutely godawful for the last 5 years and getting worse. This isn’t about Snarky to me, he literally just quit the forums which i mean…big deal, so what? Still on the discord and game itself. But his situation does bring a concern I have to mind. Honestly we just need better and newer GMs.

I’m on break and tentatively done making alts, but when I did I min/maxed. So with that in mind, Hasten was an auto pick, proc bombs where I could fit em, no pointless 45% def chasing on squishies. What I’m seeing in this thread is what I expected of the forums and in game community. Concept builds and other things. Though concept builder does NOT mean forgoing minmax. I build with elaborate concepts in mind and still minmax. A point I feel that needed to be made.

I end up with 2 or 3 these days usually. Used to chase 5 when I made perma hasten builds way back even before shutdown. But now I proc bomb more, so thatll mean a good deal less slots for LoTG mules. People who are good at the game optimize the hell out of it, so builds can look very similar even if they don’t even look at each other. This game is very solved, with people trying to reinvent the wheel sometimes and making abominations in the process. As far as CoH being complicated? Not really. It looks like it on the surface to new players but its very simple as a game. Especially compared to modern games.

Yeah thats the suggestions forums.

Im with you on this. Theres no value in a CoH con. At most maybe 100 on a really good day show but most likely itll be 50 or less. Thats a lot of wasted money on the host and on the attendees just to see what is most likely just the forum population(honestly that would be my own personal hell if that happened). I would just spend the money to go see my RL friends vs wasting it to fly to a random location to see some people I talked to on the forums or teamed with once in a 20 yr old MMO.

I wouldnt want a HC mode personally but its fine for those who do. I also personally don’t value anyone’s opinion who’s not a dev on matters of what gets added to the game. A bunch of nobodies with no experience with gaming whatsover over at least some volunteers with experience with CoH? Yeah I’ll hear it straight from rhe horses mouth on whether something can be added or not and not anyone elses.

I can't respond to this with anything that won't get me a demerit but I'll say this. Fucking touch grass. This is the HEAVILY censored version of what I want to say.

Empathy was my favorite set. My first blueside 50 was an emp/energy fender long before side switching was a thing I remade my emp to emp/sonic with perma AB and being able to keep fort on 7 people. Then I made actually good sets. That emp toon has been sitting on my primary account unplayed for the last 3 years. Empathy is heinously bad as it is. It's a reactionary set with no supporting mitigation to pad the blows that come in. And it's literally a way for WoW refugees to pretend to be h3al0rz still. 99.9% of emp players I've dealt with do not use the buffs of Empathy, meaning the set in their hands is even WORSE.

I don't have one, so I wouldn't actually know on that front. But this would make it disgustingly worse

Have you given this much thought? Because what you're suggesting would make it so an IOed SR tank would singlehandedly be the best toon in the game in all content. This does not bode well for, as much as I hate sound like a lot of armchair developers here and on the discord, the health of the game.

Did you read what I was quoting? Tick for tat on that one. They were hostile so I was hostile back. And it's true, emp players will do Olympic level gymnastics to convince themselves and everyone else emp is good but everyone already knows it isn't. Those same emp players also coincidentally do not use fort or clear mind. Very interesting indeed.

I have to reiterate. There is no correlation whatsoever to how you got to 50 and your level of knowledge with the game. Sounds counterintuitive but I'll elaborate. Say you've taken a year or 3 long break from CoH and are just coming back but have never AE farmed. You can still be an AE baby in that you probably don't remember how your build works, how to get to zones, etc. A lot of people who play organically also don't understand anything resembling an optimized rotation. I bet 2 bil inf a lot of people on the forums who champion the organic leveling experience can't even tell me how to, one, optimize a build, two, discern a proper attack chain, and three, get off the BS of pursuing 45% Def on non Def toons. Does that mean I have the right to demonize you? No. Best I can do is try and educate you on the above topics instead of negatively impacting your experience.

Feelings make you say empathy is better than kin nature elec. Logic is knowing it's not. I don't expect logic on the forums though. Comparing base numbers even show that Dark and Kin are better. Can they miss? Sure. Will they in any situation where it's needed like HM? No. But hey because they can miss once in every 100 cast yeah emp is better I guess. You emp lovers will literally outdo Olympic level gymnast with the level of contorting you do to lie about empathy being good.