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To answer you yes I think it does, but you also have to account for its increased kill speed - if there was a loss of stun capability you wont notice it because you are killing almost twice as fast now. But its a regular occurrence to stun a +4 AV - for reference it was bobcat on the maria Jenkins arc - and I have been testing it since mid July across all 4 Ats.

Then you should be able to see how reliable the stacking stuns are as it is.

Have You tested the set?

For the record that is what I actually said and it was in reference to the power stun more than anything.

None of that disproves what I'm saying, especially taking it out of context like you did but nice try. I think you are flailing at a want for you personally that isnt a need for the set. Because it does what you are describing really well as myself and others have mentioned. Have You tested the set extensively? If not - we are done here.

This - any more controls than what it does currently - is outside of what a melee AT is targeted to do. Its currently chefs kiss in terms of balance and playability - possibly the best ever.

No, I'm not. im saying its fine as it is. Have you tested the set extensively to see this fact? I'm also saying its not worth throwing it out of balance for an effect thats already there, useful, and fine as it is at the risk of losing dmg output. Like someone earlier said if you want more controls you should probably be looking at a Troller, or domi.

i never skip barrage on my tankers :-)

QFT

because then you are infringing on troller territory with 5x the dmg output. i dont know what it really is but it feels like 5x. Not to mention - its a secondary effect and it still has an arsenal of that secondary effect that is quite good as it is.

More that it doesnt need it - rather than shouldnt have it - even though it still has an arsenal of stun.

switching barrage though to T2 would make it a 2 power pick to get it, it is more equitable for tankers if it remains a 1 power pick as the inherant T1 You arent in any danger of consuming focus with it as a tanker because you dont get crits or double focus, so its always a strategic choice which is how i play my tankers anyway.

Like I said earlier, stalker and scrapper get the benefit of dbl focus, I think barrage being inherant is a good benefit for some tanker love - without having to sacrifice to get it.

Not if my build doesn't have room for it. Its forcing 2 power picks instead of 1. That doesnt favor tankers then.

A person would have to have great willpower to do that..... ....... Get it?? ;-)

Thats kinda what a tanks role is though - melee controller. I take barrage, WH, TF, and ET on my tanks - while EP wouldn't be a bad option smh wise - I want the - regen on my tankers.

I see barrage as more a reward to tankers - scrappers and stalkers get double focus with TF crit - normally wouldn't take barrage. Tankers would have a supply for - regen which would come in handy in a team setting.

Oh it will happen. I wouldnt be for that as a die hard tanker - barrage I don't mind but the - regen could come in handy and I pick more for defenses on my tankers, I wouldn't have room for both. I would want to keep barrage at the T1

It was just an offering to demonstrate for you. You are a bit over the top here.

If You believe that why not let Sai demonstrate.

Then you have missed a lot of what I have posted about.

No its up to the numbers, and the numbers back up what I'm saying. It still stuns reliable, and kills faster.

Because it wouldnt be effective anyway. If you want solid control thats what controllers do. So either you give up the dmg of you go with the stacking stuns which is reliable as is. It shouldnt have both. I would be irritated if I lost guaranteed dmg for a guaranteed stun the set doesnt need.

The scrapper stalker sets still stun well - and I didn't even take BS - and still wont because I think EP is the better power for filler. But, Stalker scrapper will take down anything before the loss of a stun power would be noticed - and keep in mind it still has decent stuns. They also have double focus from TF crit and if I had any complaint it was tankers felt slightly behind - but with barrage getting the focus - I think its a good measure to give tankers a little extra that was slightly missing. Tankers are like a melee controller anyway, while Scrappers and stalkers are the dps. The change fits perfectly - and if you needed any more stun its time to bring a controller anyway.

Agree 100% its chefs kiss