Frosticus

It is kinda silly if you look at something like Flashfire (troller)- base dam ~9, base acc 0.8x. 90 sec rech, 16 end Vs Geyser (defender)- base dam ~151 with 3 tidal stacks, base acc 1.4x. 125 sec rech, 21 end. So you can easily slot 3 dam/rech+3 procs. Also has 100% chance of mag 3 stun and good knock up when used with aim.

Oh ok Aura of insanity says hi. But it's your rp, so don't as you like.

Seems like psi armor to me.

Keep your expectations low for the proc damage. Healing proc works nicely though.

Agreed. I'll take the aoes as big as you are willing to make them. I kid you not. Ill faceplate thousands of times before I request them to be smaller.

I think trawl on cat 5 is the low hanging fruit that will allow them to keep it as a dot/debuff/control nuke. It would really.. wait for it... Pull the set together

They were gonna get it, but then they weren't cause caltrops is important or good or something. I dunno I tuned out when someone started arguing that stalkers get hide for free vs shinobi costing 0.26 end/sec, so they didn't need the 3+ end/sec that kyoyo can offer (pre nerf). Stalker nin has no +offense via shinobi and no +offense via bottomless endurance, but it can scatter mobs with the best of them. Stalker nin is in a bad spot unfortunately.

Meteor, in all of its lack of glory, also ends up with well under 170 base rech. Using seismic blast powers can subtract a lot of time off the countdown. Aim (think this is bugged tbh) also takes of a huge chunk of time. That's seismics gimmick, but just providing another example where the long base rech might be flexible.

Geyser is ranged. Base 125 sec vs 170 sec Cat 5 also has a shorter range for some reason. At 60ft it puts you close enough to draw attention before casting sometimes. Geyser also has interaction with tidal force that brings its base damage up to traditional nuke levels. As well as base acc of 1.4 so you can easily get away with skimping on slotting (I do 3x dam/rech). Not saying cat 5 needs to be Geyser, just pointing out that base 170 sec (for me) indicates stuff is about to get wrecked right meow.

Part of the issue with cat 5 is the base rech creates the expectation that it is going to wreck things. It has the extra base rech attached to nukes like blizzard and thunderous blast. So that sort of sets the mindset If it is intended as more of a dps tool that needs massaging via storm cell and steady player action perhaps a shorter rech like geyser/hail of bullets would help establish that* *I get cat 5 'can" do a lot of damage, but it doesn't if you just cast it and walk away, so dunno what to say about that with regard to damage adjustments.

What you are seeing is the 5-40% chance of crits that sents are getting. Shinobi adds a flat +30% chance for one attack (non nuke) if you have gained stealth status (the 8 seconds mentioned above). Not all shinobis are created equal. Scrap: 1 attack - 65% crit chance on st, 30% on aoe Sent: 1 attack - live +40% dam, test +30% crit chance Blaster: 1 attack +25% dam, all attacks 20% chance of lethal proc Stalker: none

As far as glow ups go: Smoke bomb/blinding buffed Kyoyo nerfed Shinobi nerfed for sents (most of us open with the nuke) Kb protection added to stalkers Pretty ho-hum Regardless of what was going on with retsu I think there is more juice to be squeezed out of this update. 1a. un-nerf Kyoyo. Keep the end over time if you want, but it didn't need a 50% increase in base rech. 1b. Alternately, keep Kyoyo at 90 seconds but give it some of the absorb that had no real purpose in Retsu (considering its main role is to softcap your base kit and give you meaningful ddr - Nin has about 30% def before IO's/incarnates and 34% ddr) 2. Stalker caltrops matches the version found in epics. So it could use a buff. 3. Sents get crits now, why isn't their version of shinobi more like the blaster one? - small + dam from stealth, small boost to crit chance all the time 4. buff movement speed of Kuji-In Rin (currently +35%, increase to +70%) - thematically ninjas would make a nice choice for natural origin builds that skip travel powers and ninjas are always very agile. 4b. allow movement buff of Kuji-in Rin to stack rather than replace (the mez protection stacks, the psi res stacks, but the movement buff replaces).

Ya that's the bugged storm cell. Its would make for a nice cat 5. Blizzard shows us nukes don't have to be instant, but they do need to be good.

Ya I wish storm could front load its nuke like I suggested via the brew stacking. It more closely aligns with dark blast in that it can put out staggering tohit debuff numbers. Ie. Cell+highwinds = 26.75% auto hit 16 target 25ft aoe tohit debuff. I think regardless of how cool/good storm cell performs (in a future patch) the set will always be held back by cat 5. Frontloaded cashless nukes set the bar very high. Bugged cell showed me the cat 5 I dream of with that zap, zap, zap over the whole spawn. ~10 second of that (with decent damage) the wind effects and dot rain can persist longer if you want. Sign me up. Cat 5 should have some trawl too

Its not for me to share, but Player 1 has indicated a whole batch of changes coming down the pipe for a patch soon. At a glance they look well worth testing.