scarhead Posted September 20, 2019 Posted September 20, 2019 I posted awhile ago about creating a steamroll all buff/debuff team. My mates and I made our toons and have done some work with it, but it has been tough sledding for me. I made a son/son def and I'm not really happy with him. Recently I was browsing the Cor forum and saw this build for a Fire/Time Cor that looked really intriguing. DPS Support Tank Then I got to thinking, what would changing this to a defender look like? I put it together and it looks like better buffs, as I expected, but the damage looked to be pretty close. I know it's not accounting for scourge, so my question is, what would be the pros and cons of using this build on def vice cor? Thanks. Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962http://www.cohplanner.com/ Def or Cor: Level 50 Magic Defender Primary Power Set: Time Manipulation Secondary Power Set: Fire Blast Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Leadership Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery Villain Profile: ------------ Level 1: Time Crawl TmpRdn-Acc/EndRdx(A) Level 1: Flares Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dmg/Rchg(3), Apc-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(3), Apc-Acc/Rchg(5), Apc-Dmg/EndRdx(5) Level 2: Temporal Mending Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(7), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(7), Prv-Heal/Rchg(9), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(9), Prv-Absorb%(11) Level 4: Fire Ball SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(11), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(13), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(15) Level 6: Time's Juncture DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(17), DarWtcDsp-Rchg/EndRdx(17), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(19) Level 8: Spirit Ward Heal-I(A) Level 10: Hasten RechRdx-I(A) Level 12: Rain of Fire Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(A), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(19), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(21), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(21), Rgn-Knock%(23) Level 14: Super Speed BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 16: Maneuvers LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(23), Rct-Def/EndRdx(25) Level 18: Farsight LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), HO:Membr(25), HO:Membr(27), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27) Level 20: Aim GssSynFr--Build%(A) Level 22: Mystic Flight BlsoftheZ-ResKB(A) Level 24: Temporal Selection Heal-I(A) Level 26: Slowed Response AchHee-ResDeb%(A) Level 28: Blaze SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(31) Level 30: Rune of Protection StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-Max HP%(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(33), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(34) Level 32: Chrono Shift NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx(A), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg(34), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg(34), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(36), NmnCnv-Heal(36), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(36) Level 35: Blazing Bolt StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(A), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(37), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(37), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), StnoftheM-Dam%(39), Apc-Dam%(39) Level 38: Inferno Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(39), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(40), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), Obl-%Dam(42) Level 41: Dark Consumption Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(42), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Obl-%Dam(43) Level 44: Dark Embrace GldArm-3defTpProc(A), Ags-Psi/Status(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(45), Ags-ResDam/Rchg(45), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Ags-ResDam(46) Level 47: Soul Drain Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Arm-Acc/Rchg(48), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Arm-Dam%(50), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(50) Level 49: Combat Jumping LucoftheG-Rchg+(A) Level 1: Brawl Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Dash Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Slide Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Quick Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Rush Empty(A) Level 1: Prestige Power Surge UnbLea-Stlth(A) Level 1: Sprint 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Hedgefund Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 I happen to have made my first (non farming) character on Homecoming as a Time/Fire defender, because I dearly loved my fire/time corr from live and wanted to see how the inverse played. Honestly, for "feel" (I haven't analyzed a session with Hero stats) the main difference is, as you suspected, Scourge, at least against big targets (meaning AVs/GMs). They both were/are safe and lethal in general play even as you ratchet up the difficulty and size. That reminds me, because this was my first character, I used a "bargain" build (meaning Posis instead of Ragnarok, that kind of thing). I need to finally get around to a "premium" build then I can better make an apples-apples comparison (that Corr on live was "premium")
Darkir Posted September 21, 2019 Posted September 21, 2019 When it comes to soul drain or fulcrum shift or other multi hit dmg buffs you cannot trust mids damage numbers. In the end fire/time corr will be better overall with considerable investment. The buffs on a defender will be higher, but often the buffs from power boost/radial clarion+farsight are so significant you don't need anymore as a corr for almost all teams. The damage between a corruptor and defender when buffed with soul drain and any other dmg buffs is very significant and it is due to the higher base damage instead of scourge.
Without_Pause Posted September 23, 2019 Posted September 23, 2019 Corr would be an easy pick for me. I even stumbled upon the idea after thinking how good it could be. Unfortunately Fire is simply better on a corr. Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
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