Generator Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 ...which would it be? I'm noodling around ideas and I don't have room for everything. Later on, Generator
Zeraphia Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 Skippable TW powers: -Titan Sweep (you can get enough AoE to do without it - recommend this early on though) -Defensive Sweep (good power, but low damage, can be easily skipped if you have the defenses soft-capped without it or just generally want better powers) -Crushing Blow (you can go without it toward the end, recommended early on, but if you have several single target powers + AoD, can be redundant/never used) -Taunt 1
Krazie Ivan Posted April 10, 2020 Posted April 10, 2020 agree with Zera (again, heh). dunno what your variables are, but: my TW is a /Rad Scrap, so i took Def.Sweep to use as a poor-man's form of DDR if needed & protect my softcap. if the secondary provided 50% or more DDR, i'd consider C.Blow instead. i happen to like T.Sweep, but mostly because i've got Moonbeam ...on a Brute, i think i might swap that for C.Blow so i'd still have 3 ST attacks to chain. KD + Dmg is Taunt, imo. 😊 1
Generator Posted April 10, 2020 Author Posted April 10, 2020 Thanks so much for the replies so far. To give a little detail: I started a TW/Elec brute today. No real plans for him, not intended as a max-performance, or farmer build, but just someone to smash the crap out of the Rogue Isles. Now, I don't have a Mids build for this, but I do have an old Elec/Elec build. If my starting point is to just swap out the primary, I have to lose one attack power, as on the Elec, I passed on Lightning Clap. So I have to ditch one attack (for purposes of this exercise, Taunt and Build Up aren't "attack powers"). All three of the one Zeraphia mentions are powers I've currently got, so I'll have to do a Respec down the line to ditch something. Thanks again, people! Anyone else with advice, I'm happy to hear it. Generator
Krazie Ivan Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 1 hour ago, Generator said: I started a TW/Elec brute today. had one as a Tank - good combo, and the only Tank i've enjoyed playing...ever. Melee softcap, nearly Res capped to all but Tox, great Rech, solid Heal & Regen ...hope ya enjoy it the same. 1
Generator Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 45 minutes ago, Krazie Ivan said: had one as a Tank - good combo, and the only Tank i've enjoyed playing...ever. Melee softcap, nearly Res capped to all but Tox, great Rech, solid Heal & Regen ...hope ya enjoy it the same. Cool, if you've got a build, I'd love to take a peek. 😁
oOStaticOo Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Here is my Elec/TW Tanker. Feel free to use it if you like. Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.6.0.7https://github.com/ImaginaryDevelopment/imaginary-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! oOStatic NekoOo: Level 50 Technology TankerPrimary Power Set: Electric ArmorSecondary Power Set: Titan WeaponsPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Energy Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Charged Armor -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), TtnCtn-ResDam(3), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(3), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(5)Level 1: Defensive Sweep -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(5), ScrDrv-Acc/Dmg(7), ScrDrv-Dmg/EndRdx(7), FuroftheG-Acc/End/Rech(9), FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(9)Level 2: Conductive Shield -- ImpArm-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), TtnCtn-ResDam(11), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(11), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(13)Level 4: Titan Sweep -- SprAvl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(13), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(15), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(15), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(17), FrcFdb-Rechg%(17)Level 6: Lightning Field -- Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(19), Arm-Dam%(21), Erd-%Dam(21), EnrMnp-Stun%(23)Level 8: Grounded -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), Ags-Psi/Status(23), ImpArm-ResPsi(25), GldArm-3defTpProc(25)Level 10: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(27), Rct-ResDam%(48)Level 12: Taunt -- PrfZng-Dam%(A)Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)Level 16: Static Shield -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), TtnCtn-ResDam(29), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(29), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(31)Level 18: Lightning Reflexes -- Run-I(A)Level 20: Build Momentum -- RctRtc-ToHit(A), RctRtc-ToHit/Rchg(31)Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)Level 24: Tough -- ImpArm-ResPsi(A), TtnCtn-ResDam(33), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx(33), TtnCtn-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(33)Level 26: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(34), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(34), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(34)Level 28: Rend Armor -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(36), Hct-Acc/Rchg(36), CrsImp-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(36), CrsImp-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46)Level 30: Energize -- Mrc-Heal/EndRdx(A), Mrc-EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mrc-Heal/Rchg(37), Mrc-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg(37), Mrc-Heal(39)Level 32: Power Sink -- MckBrt-Taunt(A), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg(39), MckBrt-Taunt/Rchg/Rng(40), MckBrt-Acc/Rchg(40), MckBrt-Taunt/Rng(40), MckBrt-Rchg(42)Level 35: Whirling Smash -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(42), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Arm-Acc/Rchg(43), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(43), FrcFdb-Rechg%(43)Level 38: Arc of Destruction -- FuroftheG-Acc/Dmg/End/Rech(A), FuroftheG-Acc/End/Rech(45), Erd-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(45), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(45), Erd-Dmg(46), FrcFdb-Rechg%(46)Level 41: Conserve Power -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 44: Physical Perfection -- EndMod-I(A)Level 47: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 49: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(50), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(50), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 1: Brawl -- Acc-I(A)Level 1: Gauntlet Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- 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Generator Posted April 11, 2020 Author Posted April 11, 2020 9 hours ago, oOStaticOo said: Here is my Elec/TW Tanker. Feel free to use it if you like. Thanks for the peek. If I might ask, I noticed you have neither Crushing Blow nor Follow Through. Do you not exemplar low, did you do something different at early levels, or were the two Sweeps + Lightning Field enough to get by in the teens? Thanks again.
kelika2 Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Taunt is the only skippable. Both my titan characters do not have hasten, Tough taken at level 28/30/35 and weave at 35/38 and only mild 10-20% global recharge not counting Mako's Bite/eradication enhancements. Having all attacks gives me both a solid attack chain for aoe and single titan/wp scrap titan/dark brute and even then i took taunt at 49 with the brute..
oOStaticOo Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 8 hours ago, Generator said: Thanks for the peek. If I might ask, I noticed you have neither Crushing Blow nor Follow Through. Do you not exemplar low, did you do something different at early levels, or were the two Sweeps + Lightning Field enough to get by in the teens? Thanks again. TW is a very end heavy attack set. So yeah, I coasted through the lower levels with not much for attacks because I was sucking wind more than anything if I did. Once I was able to start slotting level 30 IO's things got a little bit more manageable on the Endurance front.
Seigmoraig Posted April 11, 2020 Posted April 11, 2020 Titan Weapon is a self contained set, the only skippable power in it is Taunt. Being so well rounded you don't need any patron/epic power pools to make it function really well provided you have a secondary that has some good end regen in it. Rad, Bio, Willpower (really need to have Performance Shifter + Numina, Miracle, Panaces IO procs) and the like will let you be a one man show. Defensive Sweep is good to have at the early levels, but is really lackluster once you get higher up and you have proper defenses. It's still good to have as a 1 slot wonder power to use as a Luck of the Gambler mule though
Destlin Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 On a tw/bio I skip defensive sweep. It just isnt needed once fully built.
Generator Posted April 12, 2020 Author Posted April 12, 2020 37 minutes ago, Destlin said: On a tw/bio I skip defensive sweep. It just isnt needed once fully built. I'm like 14 right now, pretty far from "fully built". Hell, even when I hit 50 this guy will probably not be fully optimized, just the way I go with alts and builds.
Destlin Posted April 12, 2020 Posted April 12, 2020 Yeah if you are going at it the fun way of leveling confront is about the only skippable ability.
Generator Posted April 12, 2020 Author Posted April 12, 2020 I'm going to reemphasize a point that seems to have been overlooked by several respondents. When I initially posted this, I was specifically looking at an attack power to skip, i.e. not Taunt or Build Up. Skipping Taunt would leave me with a power I was trying to use as a One-Slot Wonder, as that's how I usually slot Taunt. However, I think I might have my solution. As I looked at the Elec^2 who is the working base of this build, I remembered that I used to slot Power Surge with a full set of Lockdown, so as to maximize the Hold at the end of the power. As power creep has escalated and my builds have gotten tougher, I find I rarely actually use Power Surge. So, I can drop that from the build and see what that does for me. I'll work up a proper build and if I need further feedback, I'll post it. Thanks to all of you for the support! 1
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