Poison / Fire - S/L/E/N/R 45% with good sustain

[Dahkness]

No longer a S/L/E/N/R set up. I’ve learned the ways of the poison.  

 (Build is out of date) will update with  new build soon) 

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Edited October 9, 2020 by Hops

[kiramon]

Nope, you're good. 

 

Dont know about the fast snipe (is it so you can open with it?). 

[Hops4]

16 minutes ago, kiramon said:

Nope, you're good. 

 

Dont know about the fast snipe (is it so you can open with it?). 

Oh I was gonna change that out

[kiramon]

1 hour ago, Hops4 said:

Oh I was gonna change that out

Outside of that, it looks good - I would just put a decimation BU proc there 😜 . I think Poison Trap still uses accuracy though so that might need 1. 

 

Either way, Im gonna do another poison build from this... moving away from my lovely Corruptors for it this time I think... but I can't pass up sonic on a defender so I just converted it over to a Poison/Sonic, lol.

 

I'm not totally sold on Paralytic Poison/entomb. I'd maybe consider dropping the goal of 45% Negative in favor of getting the 8% +scaling resists, which I'm pretty sure will increase your survivability more than 2.5% Negative... probably would have to take SJ with Blessing though and move some slots to Maneuvers to bring the ranged back to 45. YMMV, maybe you're trying to use Entomb for some self preservation stuff - though I hear it is pretty good in PTrap.  Love to hear thoughts on that choice. 

 

(Oh, and move your +max hp over to Elixir of life instead of Tough)

Edited August 15, 2020 by kiramon

[Frosticus]

It's a very different direction than I went, but it looks quite solid.

 

-I think you won't use paralytic very much in actual play.

-The 2 defender procs are a huge boon survival. I personally get them into blaze and blazing bolt, which are my main 1-2 attacks. That might be challenging for your build. Fireball is a fine spot for the absorb though for group play, but could be missed vs AV's and such.

-If you are teaming a lot then I like your slotting of tactics. If you aren't then I'd flip tactics and aim. The on demand damage boost of aim+Gaussian is really nice.

-You mentioned +5'ing most enhancements. Keep in mind this will greatly impact their ability to exemp down and retain bonuses (pvp and purples not included). If that is something that is important to you.

[Hops4]

2 hours ago, Frosticus said:

It's a very different direction than I went, but it looks quite solid.

 

-I think you won't use paralytic very much in actual play.

-The 2 defender procs are a huge boon survival. I personally get them into blaze and blazing bolt, which are my main 1-2 attacks. That might be challenging for your build. Fireball is a fine spot for the absorb though for group play, but could be missed vs AV's and such.

-If you are teaming a lot then I like your slotting of tactics. If you aren't then I'd flip tactics and aim. The on demand damage boost of aim+Gaussian is really nice.

-You mentioned +5'ing most enhancements. Keep in mind this will greatly impact their ability to exemp down and retain bonuses (pvp and purples not included). If that is something that is important to you.

I like the idea of putting those procs in my main attack! It’s my first defender! I like all the info you gave me! Thx

[Frosticus]

This was an experiment in a different approach to building a debuffer and it turned out to be the most fun I've ever had playing the game.

 

Have a read through my poison guide if you like.

 

[Dahkness]

On 8/15/2020 at 4:11 PM, kiramon said:

Outside of that, it looks good - I would just put a decimation BU proc there 😜 . I think Poison Trap still uses accuracy though so that might need 1. 

 

Either way, Im gonna do another poison build from this... moving away from my lovely Corruptors for it this time I think... but I can't pass up sonic on a defender so I just converted it over to a Poison/Sonic, lol.

 

I'm not totally sold on Paralytic Poison/entomb. I'd maybe consider dropping the goal of 45% Negative in favor of getting the 8% +scaling resists, which I'm pretty sure will increase your survivability more than 2.5% Negative... probably would have to take SJ with Blessing though and move some slots to Maneuvers to bring the ranged back to 45. YMMV, maybe you're trying to use Entomb for some self preservation stuff - though I hear it is pretty good in PTrap.  Love to hear thoughts on that choice. 

 

(Oh, and move your +max hp over to Elixir of life instead of Tough)

Okay so i updated the build. Tried to put a little bit more proc action into it. But havnt put it into play yet. Let me know what you think. Again this is with solo play in mind with ofcourse . Im not sure how good the entropic chaso's are.

Gonna change the procs out of kick. Tried it out and it just wasn't satisfying 
 

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Edited August 19, 2020 by Hops

[ThrillMill]

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Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Poison
Secondary Power Set: Radiation Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Speed
Power Pool: Fighting
Ancillary Pool: Soul Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Envenom -- ShlBrk-Acc/DefDeb(A), ShlBrk-%Dam(7)
Level 1: Neutrino Bolt -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(40), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(43)
Level 2: Weaken -- CldSns-Acc/ToHitDeb(A), CldSns-%Dam(7)
Level 4: Irradiate -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-%Dam(9), Erd-%Dam(9), ScrDrv-Dam%(15), TchofLadG-%Dam(15), ShlBrk-%Dam(34)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(11), Ksm-ToHit+(46)
Level 8: Super Jump -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(11)
Level 10: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(13), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(13)
Level 12: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 14: Tactics -- AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx/Rchg(A), AdjTrg-ToHit/EndRdx(17), AdjTrg-ToHit(17)
Level 16: Proton Volley -- StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(A), StnoftheM-Dam%(19), GldJvl-Dam%(19), TchofLadG-%Dam(21), ShlBrk-%Dam(21), SprVglAss-Rchg/+Absorb(23)
Level 18: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 20: Aim -- AdjTrg-ToHit/Rchg(A), AdjTrg-ToHit(23)
Level 22: Tough -- GldArm-End/Res(A), GldArm-3defTpProc(25), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(25), UnbGrd-Max HP%(37), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(37)
Level 24: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(27)
Level 26: Poison Trap -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-%Dam(29), NrnSht-Dam%(29), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(31), GldNet-Dam%(31), Arm-Dam%(31)
Level 28: Cosmic Burst -- Apc-Dmg(A), Apc-Dam%(33), GldJvl-Dam%(33), TchofLadG-%Dam(33), AchHee-ResDeb%(34), ShlBrk-%Dam(34)
Level 30: Acrobatics -- EndRdx-I(A)
Level 32: Venomous Gas -- DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb(A), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/EndRdx(36), DarWtcDsp-ToHitdeb/Rchg/EndRdx(36), DarWtcDsp-ToHitDeb/Rchg(50)
Level 35: Soul Drain -- Erd-Acc/Rchg(A), Erd-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Erd-%Dam(37), GssSynFr--Build%(50)
Level 38: Atomic Blast -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(39), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(39), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(40), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(40)
Level 41: Soul Storm -- GldJvl-Acc/Dmg(A), GldJvl-Dam%(42), NrnSht-Dam%(42), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(42), UnbCns-Dam%(43), GldNet-Dam%(43)
Level 44: Neutron Bomb -- Bmbdmt-Dam(A), Bmbdmt-+FireDmg(45), JvlVll-Dam%(45), PstBls-Dam%(45), TchofLadG-%Dam(46), ShlBrk-%Dam(46)
Level 47: Dark Embrace -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Ags-ResDam(48), Ags-Psi/Status(48)
Level 49: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Quick Form 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance 
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)
Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(3), Mrc-Rcvry+(3)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PwrTrns-EndMod(A), PwrTrns-Dam/EndMod(5), PwrTrns-+Heal(5)
Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon 
Level 50: Clarion Partial Core Invocation 
Level 50: Void Core Final Judgement 
Level 50: Melee Core Embodiment 
Level 50: Diamagnetic Core Flawless Interface 
Level 50: Banished Pantheon Core Superior Ally 
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[Darkir]

Why go for typed defense when we can go for positional defense with a lot more recharge and soul drain instead? We also get soul consumption to help us with end drain, although it does have a long cd. As long as you get your accolades, I don't think end will be a problem.

 

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Level 50 Magic Defender
Primary Power Set: Poison
Secondary Power Set: Fire Blast
Power Pool: Leaping
Power Pool: Leadership
Power Pool: Fighting
Power Pool: Speed
Ancillary Pool: Dark Mastery

Hero Profile:
Level 1: Envenom -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A)
Level 1: Flares -- SprVglAss-Acc/Dmg(A), SprVglAss-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), SprVglAss-Dmg/Rchg(7)
Level 2: Weaken -- CldSns-%Dam(A)
Level 4: Fire Ball -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(7), Artl-Dam/Rech(25), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(33), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(40), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(40)
Level 6: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(11), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(13)
Level 8: Maneuvers -- ShlWal-Def/EndRdx(A), ShlWal-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(9), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(11)
Level 10: Rain of Fire -- Artl-Acc/Dam(A), Artl-Dam/End(13), Artl-Dam/Rech(15), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech(15), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng(34), Artl-End/Rech/Rng(34)
Level 12: Boxing -- Empty(A)
Level 14: Tactics -- HO:Cyto(A)
Level 16: Tough -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(17), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(17), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(19), GldArm-3defTpProc(19)
Level 18: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(37), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(42)
Level 20: Aim -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(21), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(21), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(23), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(23), GssSynFr--Build%(37)
Level 22: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(25)
Level 24: Antidote -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(43), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(43), UnbGrd-Max HP%(43)
Level 26: Poison Trap -- GldNet-Dam%(A), UnbCns-Dam%(27), GhsWdwEmb-Dam%(27), NrnSht-Dam%(34)
Level 28: Blaze -- SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg(A), SprDfnBst-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprDfnBst-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(29), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(31), SprDfnBst-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprDfnBst-Rchg/Heal%(33)
Level 30: Super Speed -- BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(31)
Level 32: Venomous Gas -- HO:Enzym(A), AchHee-ResDeb%(33)
Level 35: Blazing Bolt -- StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(A), StnoftheM-Acc/ActRdx/Rng(36), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(36), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(36), StnoftheM-Dam%(37)
Level 38: Inferno -- Arm-Dmg/Rchg(A), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(39), Arm-Acc/Rchg(39), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(39), Arm-Dam%(40)
Level 41: Dark Consumption -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(42), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(46), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), Obl-%Dam(50)
Level 44: Dark Embrace -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-EndRdx/Rchg(45), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(46)
Level 47: Soul Drain -- SprAvl-Dmg/EndRdx(A), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), SprAvl-Rchg/KDProc(50), FuroftheG-ResDeb%(50)
Level 49: Vengeance -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)
Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Quick Form 
Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)
Level 1: Vigilance 
Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)
Level 4: Ninja Run 
Level 2: Swift -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Pnc-Heal/+End(3), Mrc-Rcvry+(3)
Level 2: Hurdle -- Empty(A)
Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-EndMod(A), PrfShf-End%(5)
Level 50: Agility Core Paragon 
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[Dahkness]

On 9/2/2020 at 5:38 PM, Darkir said:

Why go for typed defense when we can go for positional defense with a lot more recharge and soul drain instead? We also get soul consumption to help us with end drain, although it does have a long cd. As long as you get your accolades, I don't think end will be a problem.

 

Thank you for posting this! Love seeing other ideas <3!
 
It looks great! 
Is this a build you've played with? 
I also saw you don't have to many procs in your attacks. Those help me solo bosses so fast. 
 

Edited September 4, 2020 by Hops

[Darkir]

On 9/3/2020 at 12:26 PM, Hops said:

Thank you for posting this! Love seeing other ideas <3!
 
It looks great! 
Is this a build you've played with? 
I also saw you don't have to many procs in your attacks. Those help me solo bosses so fast. 
 

I have not played with it, I just like making builds. soul drain and much more recharge should make up for the lack of procs. Poison doesn't have any +def so you have to lose procs for survivability.

[Dahkness]

On 9/4/2020 at 11:56 PM, Darkir said:

I have not played with it, I just like making builds. soul drain and much more recharge should make up for the lack of procs. Poison doesn't have any +def so you have to lose procs for survivability.

Ill have to tell you how it works out when I try it out

[Dahkness]

On 9/4/2020 at 11:56 PM, Darkir said:

I have not played with it, I just like making builds. soul drain and much more recharge should make up for the lack of procs. Poison doesn't have any +def so you have to lose procs for survivability.

I am just now learning about positional defense. It seems like a good fit for poison. I really liked your build but I new you could fit more dmg into it and added proc dmg to my 2 main attacks. My DEF is almost 45% for melee and range. Havn't played it yet. But it looks promising for a fire/poison so far. Please share more tips 😃 they are super helpful. If the 2 build up procs go off with a good soul drain I can hit dmg cap. So it says.

@Frosticus  any tips? I feel like this is a better direction
 

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1833&c=725&a=1450&f=HEX&dc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

Edited September 10, 2020 by Hops

[Darkir]

14 hours ago, Hops said:

I am just now learning about positional defense. It seems like a good fit for poison. I really liked your build but I new you could fit more dmg into it and added proc dmg to my 2 main attacks. My DEF is almost 45% for melee and range. Havn't played it yet. But it looks promising for a fire/poison so far. Please share more tips 😃 they are super helpful. If the 2 build up procs go off with a good soul drain I can hit dmg cap. So it says.

@Frosticus  any tips? I feel like this is a better direction
 

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1833&c=725&a=1450&f=HEX&dc=78DADD944B4F135114C7EF7466282D8FB6B494F7AB3C4A4B291D1E71654810310818A2893BD3543A2D1349DBB498E84E4CFC00BA71E31770E3C2E7DA856B5DB8D2A58A18054D54E20BC7C3FD1F5A922EDCB9F0A6CD6FEEFFDEF3B8E7DC99A54BB3F5774E6C4C0BA5F1D85AAA544ACE9A193397368BFA522A6BAD88FDE1A47FE0404FCE5CCC64E2CB79AB94CFB597C5D3A95CD64CC7E7ACA2999C213FEBC2BD9CCFAFC5CF144C33ED918F8B668A769656AD42FDC1BC60E5B20D7232676557D769E63B5EB056E2B3A9E285E41279318B975B29789EFEF690E0612BE208415385F6D821845F139B81F29A434C6A42189A7018CC7150848550B04757B6C8AE4B13B59B60F015D8F796F99AF906ECA70AA81C5B7DE990FEB417E016C5D6D9AF7E57955ACD43E63DD07D1F0C3E00871E813EF2EB5490B7B359915AE39E903187029837D11E17F608579F90DA3B8A59C731EB9CBAD4EA55A60636D6825E1D6CAA01FDE4AF81FD354CA18E41D23CAC79380F07693EC410BE6B386B88343FF629FE11E4123820AD35F3FE66F6A192D682FD7ACBFE039DAB755C05BFA306ED5F99DFC0DE5D50A77EB5C19FDA360D6D601E798C1E058D27E8ED07AA4707D7A32301AD738239057647E0A3FB3A6D0B519C18E61AE5D8851CD52ECEBB9B6BDFBBC0FDFACCFDA49C7AF8FC3D7C0707F80E6E530E21CE21F41435E97FC67CCEBC450CD3390CE41FE51C76C876906D076DAC8505D6C23F79FE8BCFBEC7FC0D5EA16DC3F266DBFA30DB46D826C23611B689B24D947D6F1046F8EC235FA0C5B80F31EE4B8CFB719510E73871B61FE378631C6F8CE3191CCFE078EFE97C09BE1B89DBD03AB5F23B4B3F1A62215A56EC68D56AA24A31AA94892A65B24A59DC57F8AE0B17723955D1EC65ADFC9D108AB47079CB6FBFBDEDA655B65646D1D58F154D55FA5019EF36D87452911D0F9CC58DDA396C3F0CFB4F15CDA1DC4046B5BBB8B5EE9B98DB7F1FE7DCF2D328D33C7FE8F93F1D3F8254987F78C43F1F9F4756

You can go this route, but you will be taking almost twice as much damage as my build.  The reason for this is that you will be getting hit 10% of the time compared to 5% of the time and God help you against mezzing enemies, you'll just faceplant (you can use clarion to prevent this though). Personally I think that extra 5% is a huge deal and 100% necessary when dealing with a pairing like poison/fire because it has no way to heal and so you can't recover from any of the damage you do take. You'll do a bit more proc damage to single targets with your build, but I don't think its worth the loss in survivability. Its up to you though, if you duo or team a lot with someone who can heal I wouldn't worry about. For all around things I'd still go with my build.

[Dahkness]

2 hours ago, Darkir said:

You can go this route, but you will be taking almost twice as much damage as my build.  The reason for this is that you will be getting hit 10% of the time compared to 5% of the time and God help you against mezzing enemies, you'll just faceplant (you can use clarion to prevent this though). Personally I think that extra 5% is a huge deal and 100% necessary when dealing with a pairing like poison/fire because it has no way to heal and so you can't recover from any of the damage you do take. You'll do a bit more proc damage to single targets with your build, but I don't think its worth the loss in survivability. Its up to you though, if you duo or team a lot with someone who can heal I wouldn't worry about. For all around things I'd still go with my build.

I do run clarion on the cooldown so I don't have to worry about mez, and I run the 45% end reduc alpha when I solo. No end problem at all. I've been running 54+8 all morning with this set up and it'ss working fabulously.

I've tried running 45% on DEF and the dmg out put is just to slow and it comes with more end use cause it does take a few more attacks to kill things and it doesn't fit poisons theme imo. The procs really make this set shine. 

Thank you again for your build though! It really helped me as a template. You rock!

Edited September 10, 2020 by Hops

[kiramon]

Meh, clarion alone leads to sad times - as if you’re debhuffed as it falls off you’re zzZIng, which is only a big deal because gas falls off and slows you down!

[Dahkness]

2 hours ago, kiramon said:

Meh, clarion alone leads to sad times - as if you’re debhuffed as it falls off you’re zzZIng, which is only a big deal because gas falls off and slows you down!

It is pretty much perma if you go the left side of the tree. That part depends on the player. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Hops

[kiramon]

1 minute ago, Hops said:

It is pretty much perma if you go the left side of the tree. That part depends on the player. 

Doesn't matter, it's perfectly timed - so you can't avoid the hold hitting even though it'll recast immediately X_x. If you have a Hold on you and it wears off, you'll be dropping Gas, recasting Clarion while held, and recasting Gas 😞 gotta stagger it with something. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by kiramon

[Dahkness]

3 minutes ago, kiramon said:

Doesn't matter, it's perfectly timed - so you can't avoid the hold hitting even though it'll recast immediately X_x. If you have a Hold on you and it wears off, you'll be dropping Gas, recasting Clarion while held, and recasting Gas 😞

Its just another whole in poisons weakness. This hasn't really killed my enjoyment of the set. Its minor at most. The rez from Dark epic might be fun to have then =P. All ive been playing is poison for the last month and a half and i can't stop. such a fun set. And im finding new ways every week how to play and build my guy. 

Edited September 10, 2020 by Hops

[kiramon]

Just now, Hops said:

Its just another whole in poisons weakness. This hasn't really killed my enjoyment of the set. Its minor at most.

No problem. Poison is one of my favorite sets, of which I have several. 4 i think? Cor, Cor, Def, MM. 

[Dahkness]

On 9/10/2020 at 4:22 PM, kiramon said:

No problem. Poison is one of my favorite sets, of which I have several. 4 i think? Cor, Cor, Def, MM. 

So I worked on a new build this morning to try and keep my positional defense (range/melee) with a good amount of resistance this time. If I pop 1 purple id hit 45% for Range and melee. Soul Drain is almost perma and hasten is pretty much perma or just about. . Can't say its great yet haven't play tested it. Need to farm a little to pick up the missing Enhancements. This build is a little bit more team friendly too it seems (with the rez ha). Let me know what you think. I'm trying real hard to avoid the sorcery power pool. I really don't like that set. Its just a personal preference

 

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1525&c=717&a=1434&f=HEX&dc=78DA6D945B4F134114C7676F604B819696FBADE556286DED7211AF2141C428D4104D7C334DA54BD9886DD362A26F62E217F0415FFC029AE8ABCF7E027D30F103A84822A08917EEAE87FD1FDA2675D2E637FB9F3967FE736676E3F7A75DAF2FAF4E0AA9EEE272B250484C1B8B462665E4B578326D2E88A3564D7FDFB19E98BAB7B8189DCF9A856CA6AD285E4F66D2462A3A63E68DC414E55911CEF96C76397A236718A97ABB3B6724696661C9CCB98E9F7366265D6B3FCC98E9A5157AF25CCA990BD1E964FE4E224E598CFC83165A3C467F6B4070B32431415015A1BE9585F0AA62CD571C53C5982A84AE8ABA11B041077DAFC0C04B5004859010A349EB94A75315F227E657F0C41AF333E8FE02F6524514F6A2B42B763EB50D5C272F1AE7D546645BAB1A638E83CE51B0E9147302F450DE6ADB942557374AB6E672837587C25EBB81E6383047380202F1A4D5B056C3715ED26A59AB1D47BD7A48AB8726D50F23D6CD9469CC03DFC2F3187E64AA919735EF08F6E7A3798DAC35F25A0A69CDC8AB351F75C867CBB602FE425CDB6FE60EE8FF036AB4462BD7AB75125A600B750EDC45FEBE2BF0D39744EE90C0BC0DAA753BC7B6C770AE1DA3CC71B06B0873BB74E4F087F9BCC873273C2B9DBC8F2E1FE89FC59C819F601579ECE6BA75F3DD1BE0BBB7491E7A78EF3DEF50CBDEF7CC0FCCE7C420F97FC379D9C316C5F6B3FF7EDE53D082CFE03EF3000C1D8291BFE0439A3E68DF604B1B3CC05E87F699DBCC1D30B40B46F6C0558A1D66CFC37C3E613E97309F5398CF27B20DEABBE0234254C2BAD1F3F072F234F30CF32CA89F635E00BFD17E637C27632FA075A8C577977ED4C46CA8A858A18AD15885A25728A315CA58853277A4B017E180976B25CD9A578BDF0721D9110E77F1ADB7369D34CAD15204A7FCBDA4C95200D56AB82AD927EFBB899BB5551E3788B81FE5714FF90BF10C743D016F39EDEF9EBDF6EDB27EA97DA417556775AFA9D4FF5FFB07AE0506ED

Edited September 12, 2020 by Hops

[kiramon]

2 hours ago, Hops said:

So I worked on a new build this morning to try and keep my positional defense (range/melee) with a good amount of resistance this time. If I pop 1 purple id hit 45% for Range and melee. Soul Drain is almost perma and hasten is pretty much perma or just about. . Can't say its great yet haven't play tested it. Need to farm a little to pick up the missing Enhancements. This build is a little bit more team friendly too it seems (with the rez ha). Let me know what you think. I'm trying real hard to avoid the sorcery power pool. I really don't like that set. Its just a personal preference

 

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1525&c=717&a=1434&f=HEX&dc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

I’ll check the build a little later, but I hate sorcery so I don’t blame you lol.

 

i personally only team anyways when I’m not high (like I was on my empath with you the other day haha)... but I don’t mind being under 45 because I usually end up at 70-90% with team maneuvers, though you do tend to run off on your a bit hah 😉

[kiramon]

6 hours ago, Hops said:

So I worked on a new build this morning to try and keep my positional defense (range/melee) with a good amount of resistance this time. If I pop 1 purple id hit 45% for Range and melee. Soul Drain is almost perma and hasten is pretty much perma or just about. . Can't say its great yet haven't play tested it. Need to farm a little to pick up the missing Enhancements. This build is a little bit more team friendly too it seems (with the rez ha). Let me know what you think. I'm trying real hard to avoid the sorcery power pool. I really don't like that set. Its just a personal preference

 

http://www.cohplanner.com/mids/download.php?uc=1525&c=717&a=1434&f=HEX&dc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

A) You want lysosome in Envenom

B) I dont thiink the extra random Psi-resistance is worth it, but YMMV

[Hops4]

13 hours ago, kiramon said:

A) You want lysosome in Envenom

B) I dont thiink the extra random Psi-resistance is worth it, but YMMV

I got tired of those damn psi nukes. Wanted to see if I can lower the dmg it does to me.
 

But yeah I ran the build and definitely see the difference from 45% when I solo. Need to be carful when I run off on my own now haha. They should just turn poisons heal into a healing aura power. Rad gets one 😞. Would round out the set better imo

Edited September 13, 2020 by Hops4