tidge Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 8 hours ago, carroto said: On the up-side, people also used to talk up Caltrops as well, and although I've had a number of toons with it, I never really used it much. Now that I'm working it in more I'm seeing where the love comes from. People also talked up procced up Caltrops. It has a low proc rate, as all pseudo-pet AoEs do, but with enough procs in it, I get one now and then. Since I'm using the power anyway, it's nice to get random hits of damage every so often. It's a bit situational, but it's definitely growing on me. So it's nice to have discovered something to enjoy in /Nin after finding BP to be such a dud. I'm a fan of Caltrops, particularly because you can 'proc to taste'. Slowing enemies while driving them to scatter (instead of attacking) is effective enough (against most mobs) without hoping for extra %proc action! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Riverdusk Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 14 hours ago, carroto said: On the up-side, people also used to talk up Caltrops as well, and although I've had a number of toons with it, I never really used it much. Now that I'm working it in more I'm seeing where the love comes from. People also talked up procced up Caltrops. It has a low proc rate, as all pseudo-pet AoEs do, but with enough procs in it, I get one now and then. Since I'm using the power anyway, it's nice to get random hits of damage every so often. It's a bit situational, but it's definitely growing on me. So it's nice to have discovered something to enjoy in /Nin after finding BP to be such a dud. Also seen this as people talk up caltrops as a "proc bomb". My own experiences of trying that I found very disappointing. For the results I've seen, I can usually find a much more useful place to use those slots. I gave up and ended up only 2 slotting it on my illusion/traps with two damage/slows. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chaos String Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 When I said up above that I thought Caltrops were better than Blinding Powder, I wasn't suggesting that anyone six-slot Caltrops. In fact, I just have the base slot in mine, but it's better mitigation than six-slotted Blinding Powder, even so. As for BP, I have often thought of switching it out for something else, but ultimately I'd only end up getting a pool power of marginal value. And while I could use the slots elsewhere, I'd have to replace the 5% ranged defense and 10% recharge I'd be losing from Coercive Persuasion (along with 4% damage and 4% recovery), which would entail a more comprehensive rebuild than I deem worthwhile. So yeah, I had high hopes for Blinding Powder but it's pretty bad except as a set mule--although in that regard it does shine. Can't kill me, I'm zeroes and ones. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Normal Thomas Posted November 17, 2020 Share Posted November 17, 2020 2 hours ago, Riverdusk said: Also seen this as people talk up caltrops as a "proc bomb". My own experiences of trying that I found very disappointing. For the results I've seen, I can usually find a much more useful place to use those slots. I gave up and ended up only 2 slotting it on my illusion/traps with two damage/slows. So Ragnarok chance for Knockdown and Annihilation - res are no good on Caltrops? I'm curious cause I have an Ill/Traps and I'm figuring out how to respec him to make him deadlier. If anything is a good proc bomb I feel like its Controller Holds. I have two damage procs on and it feels like they always go off. Global Handle: @Future Force Warrior Level 50s: Operative Grantz (Pure Bane/Mace Mastery), Dr. Eisenfield (Gravity/Time/Mu), Air Liquide (Ice/Kin/Soul), Vantablack Stare (Illusion/Traps/Ice), Medic 2004 (Empathy/Energy/Soul) All on Everlasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
carroto Posted November 20, 2020 Share Posted November 20, 2020 On 11/17/2020 at 5:03 PM, Normal Thomas said: So Ragnarok chance for Knockdown and Annihilation - res are no good on Caltrops? I can't say about the Ragnarok proc, but I believe it has a high base chance, so it might be decent. However I think the Annihilation has a lower chance to proc. Couple that with the low proc rate for Caltrops and I'm guessing it won't fire off enough to be worthwhile. On 11/17/2020 at 5:03 PM, Normal Thomas said: If anything is a good proc bomb I feel like its Controller Holds. I have two damage procs on and it feels like they always go off. Definitely. I try to get some procs in the hold on my Controllers as soon as I can. Really helps out their usually low damage. Once I started doing this I regretted not doing it sooner. Too much time wasted whittling down enemies. 1 Make your own proc chance charts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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