Mount Fuji Posted November 6, 2020 Posted November 6, 2020 Is there any decent builds for this out in the universe? Or would I be wasting my time building one? and, if you were new to MM would you try another build first? thanks, A non MM player
TheSpiritFox Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 If you wanna play bots, I would say Elec is on the higher end of powersets to match with it. Basic concepts. Bots are a mid tier pet set. Strong in certain ways like beasts are and weak in others. Elec affinity is an upper tier secondary for MMs. Competes with /nature for most survivable MM secondary. So it it a waste to build it? Absolutely not. It can be a soldily strong set. Take mu patron with it for electric fences, it both fits your theme and electric fences are a godsend for keeping things in bot burn patches and keeping bots from knocking shit back. If you want to think about switching around the power set at all? Bots do best with defense based secondaries. Time, cold, and traps are top teir for bots. Elec does best with resistance based primaries like Demons and Necro, however beasts gets an honorable mention with elec because melee pets are actually pretty easy to keep inside your elec resistance buff cage and with the heal and absorb in elec you can actually afford to not use fortify pack except in emergencies and keep your beasts doing max damage. Demons/elec is the best MM you can make with elec affinity overall. with all the pet uniques slotted your demons should be above 60% resistance to everything with some resistances capped or close to it. Elec does not have many tools to enable your pets to do more damage, but it does have the tools needed to make your demons pretty close to unkillable. If you have the endurance to keep firing the absorb and the heal on cooldown like I have yet to find content capable of killing my demons/elec without hitting the aggro cap on more than one individual minion, like yeah nothing can survive aggroing 40 things all at the same time like an MM can do If you want to make bots, I would say that bots/time or bots/traps are the best bots mms you can make. Time is a bit safer than traps. Both of them hit the softcap, but time lowers enemy tohit, damage, and dumps slows and -rech on enemeis as well lowering incoming damage to hilariously low levels. Traps on the other hand can stack insane levels of debuffs on pretty much everything everywhere with acid mortar and poison trap. Traps exchanges some of the safety of time (you really need to take aid pool with a traps mm build) for having a toolkit of some of the best debuffing powers in the game bar none. Nothing can dump as much debuffs on an enemy group as a high recharge traps build, especially with burnout added to the equation. 3
Meknomancer Posted November 7, 2020 Posted November 7, 2020 Trying this build haven't decided if i like it yet: Villain Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer BOTS ELEC: Level 50 Technology Mastermind Primary Power Set: Robotics Secondary Power Set: Electrical Affinity Power Pool: Flight Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leadership Ancillary Pool: Field Mastery Villain Profile: ------------ Level 1: Battle Drones HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(7), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef:50(7), SprCmmoft-Dmg/EndRdx:50(9), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets):30(9), SuddAcc--KB/+KD:50(11) Level 1: Shock PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End:50(A) Level 2: Rejuvenating Circuit NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), NmnCnv-Heal:50(11), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(13), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg:50(13), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(15), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx:50(15) Level 4: Discharge PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech:50(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech:50(17), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End:50(17), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech:50(19), PreOptmz-EndMod/End:50(19), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech:50(21) Level 6: Equip Robot EndRdx-I:50(A) Level 8: Fly BlsoftheZ-Travel:50(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB:50(33) Level 10: Energizing Circuit PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech:50(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech:50(21), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End:50(23), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech:50(23), PreOptmz-EndMod/End:50(25), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech:50(25) Level 12: Protector Bots HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(27), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(27), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(29), EdcoftheM-PetDef:40(29), SuddAcc--KB/+KD:50(31) Level 14: Hover LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx:50(31), BlsoftheZ-Travel:50(31), LucoftheG-Def:50(39) Level 16: Faraday Cage UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam:50(33), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx:50(33), UnbGrd-ResDam:50(34) Level 18: Afterburner LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A) Level 20: Empowering Circuit EndRdx-I:50(A) Level 22: Hasten RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(34) Level 24: Boxing Empty(A) Level 26: Assault Bot HO:Nucle(A), HO:Nucle(34), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen:50(36), SprMarofS-Dmg/EndRdx:50(36), ExpStr-Dam%:20(36), SuddAcc--KB/+KD:50(37) Level 28: Tough StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(A), GldArm-3defTpProc:50(37), GldArm-End/Res:40(37), GldArm-Res/Rech/End:40(39) Level 30: Weave RedFrt-Def/EndRdx:30(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg:50(40), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg:50(42), RedFrt-Def:50(46), RedFrt-EndRdx:50(50) Level 32: Upgrade Robot EndRdx-I:50(A) Level 35: Temp Invulnerability Ags-Psi/Status:50(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx:50(40), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46) Level 38: Insulating Circuit DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), DctWnd-Heal:50(39), DctWnd-Heal/EndRdx:50(40), DctWnd-Heal/Rchg:50(42), DctWnd-Rchg:50(48) Level 41: Photon Grenade Artl-End/Rech/Rng:50(A), Artl-Acc/Rech/Rng:50(43), Artl-Acc/Dam/Rech:50(43), Artl-Dam/Rech:50(43), Artl-Dam/End:50(45), Artl-Acc/Dam:50(45) Level 44: Pulse Rifle Blast Thn-Acc/Dmg:50(A), Thn-Dmg/EndRdx:50(45), Thn-Dmg/Rchg:50(46), Thn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(48), 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Crysis Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 There’s a VERY lengthy thread on here somewhere that came out when /Elec Affinity was first released. There’s no doubt that Bots/Elec makes for a very sturdy build. I’d argue that Bots/Time does more for Bots/ than /Elec because you can easily cap all +DEF via Powerboost+ your secondary, plus the -TOHIT from Times Juncture covers any minor gaps you have. But if you prefer Resistance to Defense (I don’t), then /Elec is a good secondary. But survivability doesn’t help you kill faster, and in this game, Damage remains king. I played Bots/Elec to the high 40’s and promptly deleted the character as it offers nothing superior to Bots/Time. If you want raw damage output, Thugs/, Bots/ or Demon +Storm is going to be your go-to sets. /Kin or /Time are right up there if you want survivability and some other goodies. /Elec is just so-so short of the high +RES with a heal. Not my play style preference but many MM’s seem to think its a sin to let a henchman die and sacrifice all kinds of power to shore up pet defenses. In my mind, henchmen are expendable and resummoning is just part of the job spec of a MM. That’s why summon powers on such short cool downs in first place. It’s how the set was designed. YMMV of course.
tidge Posted November 22, 2020 Posted November 22, 2020 I started a Bots/Elec build, but shelved it due to boredom. As @Crysis points out, henchmen are supposed to be expendable. I didn't the feeling from the /Elec set that I'd have more fun with it than my Bots/Traps build.
Triumph08 Posted November 25, 2020 Posted November 25, 2020 I don't come from a min/max mindset when I choose builds. A lot of it is "how fun is this when I level?" I have an incarnate Thugs/Kin who has a ton of damage and utility. His concept was fun to create. But making my Bots/EA, I have a great concept and really enjoy playing him. I'm not a giant fan of the 50 game for MMs outside of all-MM TF runs, etc which are hilariously enjoyable IMO. But EA has a lot to offer and if I end up on a team that has little in the way of buffs, I can fill the gap by keeping everyone and my henchmen healed, absorbed and +rech/+end in addition to running my bots. I just like the flexibility of play style of an EA MM on the way up. I enjoyed the secondary so much that I made an EA defender to compare and both are enjoyable and fairly flexible to the team. Now, soloing, taking on AVs and all kinds of high level insanity, I can't speak to. But it's been very fun to play in groups and enjoy the concept. Depends how you play the game, I suppose.
KC4800 Posted November 29, 2020 Posted November 29, 2020 I love my Bots/EA. One of my favorite characters to play on HC. Almost an exclusively solo trek to 50, through 5 of 6 incarnate slots unlocked. Highly recommend the KB to KD procs for all your henchies. I know Repair is a madly unpopular power on the forums but I took it and find it useful for the times when one bot absorbs too much of the alpha damage. I respecced out of Amp Up when I found out that it doesn't affect your Bots, even though you can cast it on them, for some reason. Just a waste. Victory: reserved for future use Indom: Schtick, Pummel Pete, Plymouth, Pilkington Reunion: Ghost Legacy, 7s7e7v7e7n7, Mind Funk, Bluto Excelsior: Phrendon Largo, Fred Bumbler, John van der Waals,Allamedia Jones, Tzapt, Sn1pe Torchbearer: Phrendon Largo, Kenny Letter, Bewm, La Merle, Enflambe', Rock Largo, Bulk of the Weather, Retired Phrendon Everlasting: Phrendon Largo, Krown, Buzz Words, Bicycle Repairman, Dee Fender, Carmela Soprano, Radmental Boy, Beet Salad, Sporanghi,Sue Ahn Cuddy, Fukushima Technician, Snow Globe Girl, Thug Therapist, Apple Brown Betty
VashNKnives Posted December 14, 2020 Posted December 14, 2020 Totally agree with KC! Bots/EA is at the top of my MM list because it plays great on teams and solo. Here is a build from my various builds Bots/EA/Mace: Spoiler Hero Plan by Mids' Reborn : Hero Designer 2.7.2.10https://github.com/Crytilis/mids-reborn-hero-designer Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Mutation MastermindPrimary Power Set: RoboticsSecondary Power Set: Electrical AffinityPower Pool: ExperimentationPower Pool: LeadershipPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeapingAncillary Pool: Mace Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Battle Drones -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD:50(A), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(3), CaltoArm-+Def(Pets):30(5), SprCmmoft-Rchg/PetAoEDef:50(3), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg:50(5), SprCmmoft-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7)Level 1: Shock -- PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech:50(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech:50(39), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech:50(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/End:50(45), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech:50(45), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End:50(46)Level 2: Rejuvenating Circuit -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+:50(A), NmnCnv-Heal:50(11), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx:50(34), NmnCnv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(34), NmnCnv-Heal/Rchg:50(36), NmnCnv-Heal/EndRdx/Rchg:50(7)Level 4: Speed of Sound -- BlsoftheZ-ResKB:50(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx:50(9), BlsoftheZ-Travel:50(9)Level 6: Equip Robot -- EndRdx-I:50(A)Level 8: Photon Grenade -- SprFrzBls-Rchg/ImmobProc:50(A), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg:50(33), Ann-ResDeb%:50(36), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), SprFrzBls-Dmg/EndRdx:50(33), SprFrzBls-Acc/Dmg/Rchg:50(36)Level 10: Energizing Circuit -- PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech:50(A), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech:50(48), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech:50(48), PreOptmz-EndMod/End:50(48), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech:50(42), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End:50(11)Level 12: Protector Bots -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), ExpRnf-+Res(Pets):50(13), LucoftheG-Def:50(13), EdcoftheM-PetDef:40(15), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg:50(15), OvrFrc-Dam/KB:50(23)Level 14: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), Ksm-ToHit+:30(50), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP:50(40), Rct-ResDam%:50(21)Level 16: Faraday Cage -- Ags-EndRdx/Rchg:50(A), Ags-ResDam:50(17), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx:50(19), Ags-ResDam/Rchg:50(19), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(17), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+:30(21)Level 18: Discharge -- PreOptmz-EndMod/End/Rech:50(A), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/Rech:50(23), PreOptmz-Acc/Rech:50(40), PreOptmz-EndMod/End:50(40), PreOptmz-EndMod/Rech:50(43), PreOptmz-EndMod/Acc/End:50(34)Level 20: Empowering Circuit -- RctRtc-Pcptn:20(A)Level 22: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 24: Tough -- GldArm-3defTpProc:50(A), Ags-Psi/Status:50(25), Ags-ResDam:50(25), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx:50(43), Ags-ResDam/Rchg:50(46), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg:50(46)Level 26: Assault Bot -- SuddAcc--KB/+KD:50(A), SprMarofS-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx:50(27), SprMarofS-Dmg:50(27), SvrRgh-PetResDam:50(29), SprMarofS-EndRdx/+Resist/+Regen:50(29), SlbAll-Build%:50(31)Level 28: Defibrillate -- EnrMnp-Stun%:20(A)Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(31), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(31)Level 32: Upgrade Robot -- EndRdx-I:50(A)Level 35: Insulating Circuit -- Prv-Absorb%:50(A), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx:50(37), Prv-Heal/EndRdx:50(37), Prv-Heal:50(37), Prv-Heal/Rchg:50(39), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg:50(39)Level 38: Scorpion Shield -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A), LucoftheG-Def:50(42), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx:50(42)Level 41: Power Boost -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(45)Level 44: Amp Up -- RechRdx-I:50(A), RechRdx-I:50(50)Level 47: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+:50(A)Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I:50(A)Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth:50(A)Level 1: Supremacy Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I:50(A)Level 2: Health -- Pnc-Heal/+End:50(A), Mrc-Rcvry+:40(50)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I:50(A)Level 2: Stamina -- EndMod-I:50(A)Level 1: Battle Drone Level 12: Protector Bot Level 26: Assault Bot Level 0: Freedom Phalanx Reserve Level 0: Portal Jockey Level 0: Task Force Commander Level 0: The Atlas Medallion Level 50: Musculature Radial Paragon Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface Level 50: Barrier Core Epiphany Level 50: Robotic Drones Core Superior Ally Level 50: Support Core Embodiment ------------
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