Subber Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Player-created ATs have been cropping up ever since the code was released, many of them varying in quality. Most of them, though, don't introduce any new original concepts. Synergist (by @malonkey1), though, totally does exactly that. More-or-less conceptualized in this thread: Synergist diverges from other AT suggestion threads in that it actually became a reality, with the code being released (although, it's made with i24 in mind, and would need to be adapted for i26).https://gitlab.com/malonkey1/synergist-at So, I'm making this thread to direct attention towards it, with a question: Synergist when? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemystic Posted March 9, 2021 Share Posted March 9, 2021 Never. Homecoming does everything in-house, it doesn't borrow from third parties. 3 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malonkey1 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Yeah, it's available on some other servers (I don't think I'm supposed to promote them here?). If you look around, you'll find it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clave Dark 5 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 On 3/9/2021 at 5:55 AM, Tyrannical said: Never. Homecoming does everything in-house, it doesn't borrow from third parties. Is there a reason to be so? I mean, a good change shouldn't be something one has to fight against unless you're just stubborn. In theory. Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grouchybeast Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 6 hours ago, Clave Dark 5 said: Is there a reason to be so? I mean, a good change shouldn't be something one has to fight against unless you're just stubborn. In theory. My assumption would be that they wouldn't want to complicate their position by using code where someone other than NCSoft or Homecoming owns the copyright. Of course, that wouldn't stop them creating a similar idea in their own code if they decided they liked it (as they did with, IIRC, asymmetric costume parts). 1 Reunion player, ex-Defiant. AE SFMA: Zombie Ninja Pirates! (#18051) Regeneratio delenda est! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Alchemystic Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 Pretty much how @Grouchybeast put it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Clave Dark 5 Posted March 13, 2021 Share Posted March 13, 2021 1 hour ago, Grouchybeast said: My assumption would be that they wouldn't want to complicate their position by using code where someone other than NCSoft or Homecoming owns the copyright. Of course, that wouldn't stop them creating a similar idea in their own code if they decided they liked it (as they did with, IIRC, asymmetric costume parts). I don't know if there's any copyright concern if it's both offered freely and for an otherwise pirate game, but there might be something in the talks that would preclude such, especially if they ever get an agreement that HC itself is the only "recognized" outlet sometime in the future, sure. 1 Tim "Black Scorpion" Sweeney: Matt (Posi) used to say that players would find the shortest path to the rewards even if it was a completely terrible play experience that would push them away from the game... ╔═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╗ Clave's Sure-Fire Secrets to Enjoying City Of Heroes Ignore those farming chores, skip your market homework, play any power sets that you want, and ignore anyone who says otherwise. This game isn't hard work, it's easy! Go have fun! ╚═══════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════════╝ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malonkey1 Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Hey, that's Homecoming's policy and that's all there really is to it in the end. If they want the Synergist, it's available to them as with every other server, but it doesn't seem that the HC dev team is interested, and that's fine. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TemporalVileTerror Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 The potential issue was broached before: https://forums.homecomingservers.com/topic/22631-hey-devs-can-you-please-some-or-all-of-this-to-hc/?tab=comments#comment-266701 I've yet to see an official answer, though. Like many things which would really benefit the community in knowing, having some kind of explicit official statement on the matter of the standards which are being operated under could let the community know if it's actually worthwhile being creative and diligent workers, or entirely pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTeague Posted March 15, 2021 Share Posted March 15, 2021 Homecoming also went and refactored a lot of code under the hood for long term performance, stablity, and supportability. The third party code from other CoH servers that doesn't have that would probably be relying on functions that no longer exist, with arguments that are no longer valid. Definitely would not be a cut-n-paste job. 3 Roster: MTeague's characters: The Good, The Bad, and The Gold Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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