graeberguinn Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 Decided it was time to make a TW boy. Looking for any advice or input on secondaries as I've seen a few be chosen. The OP choice seems to be Bio. Is this mainly for adaptation to boost damage? It has a lot of good powers and the -regen seems great. Is this an endgame set/build to where you need IO sets to build it out to be OP? I've also seen plenty of WP, Energy, and Dark builds. So i am a bit lost. What exactly is the goal from secondary besides survival? End management? I've heard it's pretty thirsty set. Moar damage? Can anyone give me a bit of direction as I know many sets would work well and be a good choice. What would be pros/cons to different sets. What is your preference? Last note I opted for scrapper to get some sweet damage and crits so am I less concerned with survival and more about killing fast? Thanks My Dudes Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancerre Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 titan weapons is indeed end hungry, but that is mostly a consequence of how fast the animations are during momentum. you get to fire off a TON of abilities constantly. BUT if you were willing to power through it all... just about any build can solve end problems with ageless anyways... so i wouldnt base your secondary solely on that aspect. if you are just looking for a solid defensive secondary there are plenty of options (/energy, /nin, and /sr are reasonably easy to work with). if you are looking for something to enhance your offense i dont think you need to look any further than /bio. just keep in mind that /bio is not perfect.. it has more offense and it trades defense for that... you will need to be aware of your clicky buttons and cycle through inspirations when playing solo or in a team with limited support buffs. /bio has strong recovery, +damage, -resist, -regen, taunt aura.. there isnt really another secondary for scrappers that offers as much offensive utility... especially because shield defense is not useable with titan weapons. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hew Posted June 16, 2021 Share Posted June 16, 2021 WP. Fire and forget, plus built in +recov. Lets you smash buttons for moar giant 2h axe axshun. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ninja surprise Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 Ninjitsu, with auto-crit from hide is a blast. Plus you get End recover power plus a heal. It's a good pair. And TW keeps foes on their tushies to help keep you alive. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BrandX Posted June 17, 2021 Share Posted June 17, 2021 +5 2 level 50 Rech/EndMod IOs and you'll be set once you have other +Rec IOs in place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraunhofer Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 On 6/16/2021 at 4:45 PM, Hew said: WP. Fire and forget, plus built in +recov. Lets you smash buttons for moar giant 2h axe axshun. TW/WP is amazing, my favorite character. I also run all fighting and leadership toggles with no end issues at all. Great AOEs and CC. heavy damage. I have even tanked LR and Rom when needed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
relentlessimp Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 I've been sitting on this TW/Ninjitsu build because I haven't had time to get into game lately but it's something that, thematically, makes me giggle: I have GIANT WEAPON but am AGILE NINJA. It's like a shonen protagonist build. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1528;684;1368;HEX;| |78DA65945B4F13511485CFD029A5370AD4524A5B912250682DD44BE22DF141C407C| |190603451A0D672A083A4346D4DF4D1776F01137D353EF9E20FF1FA074CFC0502EA| |93F15237B3162D4927997C7BF69ABDF7EA39673A7B7FCAF7F6F2C30BCAE8BCB89EA| |F5673F3854ABE5CD615D77CC1D2A582567B974BEED8BE929BD5EB5A67AE59B57C29| |7743E7CB1BA56AA4214EE9155DAAEACC55ABB466D5AAF794676E63633D335FD67AD| |967873352629556FDF6C3B4B55AACC953605F5AD6956AD12A072F95AD4206DD73B3| |F96A4D571EF4898BB4DC8FC28A57DDA94EB729953555DB19F22C689E23CF83ED21C| |3A6734CCA0CD66E3BA0ED801DBBE477D0F383FC093E96B9066B8D9BA69DF3DD2217| |C0CE457209ECCA81ED32D7C15A87075E7ABCE0211FE9077B3BC92B98EB925A276B9| |D01687DECD1C71EFDECD1CFDA187FEF13F1EC62ADEB36BCC4F2E0E13B64815C068F| |68F0A9D4BAB9CEEE15056D952C828316B946DE053BC4B3D75EACBAF2A6907B26FDF| |CF062F85F615F865E836E793F8059466093DA16B82975DDF4D13D426D143C9A24C7| |C8717024057AA46F9033837109E2A29DC2DA24E45887A885E87184EC152D4C2DFC0| |5BD46A3D88F2DF113A19FC86F6A7FC8BFE0D83FB24E2AD47AC54F94FB118DC0CF78| |3F192563609A7ED3BF506B88A738E6AA785D2EF55C9C0CD0C9C03BBC957E0F1EFB4| |07E243F81139F419F3849A0D64CE4E17262815C04B34B640EF44BCD301D0CF38439| |C455922B950CC371F6386698A2A5A0A954085AB7E432CC65D8A3477293CC4D0E620| |706CCC6975A8F998D2F7EEF517EF94C5395430A777326539233ECB7BE791A5FAC32| |86D077FB602E89DC4E33671883F0DE751DDE760F6A3C993D2FC0AFCD7FA2FA788BC| |7C9964CB62573A22573B225E3EE527BA7C79E52941DC87255DE249AF14CB019BF3C| |107B42CD782EDC8CFF036049E67E| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sancerre Posted June 22, 2021 Share Posted June 22, 2021 2 hours ago, relentlessimp said: I've been sitting on this TW/Ninjitsu build because I haven't had time to get into game lately but it's something that, thematically, makes me giggle: I have GIANT WEAPON but am AGILE NINJA. It's like a shonen protagonist build. | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1528;684;1368;HEX;| |78DA65945B4F13511485CFD029A5370AD4524A5B912250682DD44BE22DF141C407C| |190603451A0D672A083A4346D4DF4D1776F01137D353EF9E20FF1FA074CFC0502EA| |93F15237B3162D4927997C7BF69ABDF7EA39673A7B7FCAF7F6F2C30BCAE8BCB89EA| |F5673F3854ABE5CD615D77CC1D2A582567B974BEED8BE929BD5EB5A67AE59B57C29| |7743E7CB1BA56AA4214EE9155DAAEACC55ABB466D5AAF794676E63633D335FD67AD| |967873352629556FDF6C3B4B55AACC953605F5AD6956AD12A072F95AD4206DD73B3| |F96A4D571EF4898BB4DC8FC28A57DDA94EB729953555DB19F22C689E23CF83ED21C| |3A6734CCA0CD66E3BA0ED801DBBE477D0F383FC093E96B9066B8D9BA69DF3DD2217| |C0CE457209ECCA81ED32D7C15A87075E7ABCE0211FE9077B3BC92B98EB925A276B9| |D01687DECD1C71EFDECD1CFDA187FEF13F1EC62ADEB36BCC4F2E0E13B64815C068F| |68F0A9D4BAB9CEEE15056D952C828316B946DE053BC4B3D75EACBAF2A6907B26FDF| |CF062F85F615F865E836E793F8059466093DA16B82975DDF4D13D426D143C9A24C7| |C8717024057AA46F9033837109E2A29DC2DA24E45887A885E87184EC152D4C2DFC0| |5BD46A3D88F2DF113A19FC86F6A7FC8BFE0D83FB24E2AD47AC54F94FB118DC0CF78| |3F192563609A7ED3BF506B88A738E6AA785D2EF55C9C0CD0C9C03BBC957E0F1EFB4| |07E243F81139F419F3849A0D64CE4E17262815C04B34B640EF44BCD301D0CF38439| |C455922B950CC371F6386698A2A5A0A954085AB7E432CC65D8A3477293CC4D0E620| |706CCC6975A8F998D2F7EEF517EF94C5395430A777326539233ECB7BE791A5FAC32| |86D077FB602E89DC4E33671883F0DE751DDE760F6A3C993D2FC0AFCD7FA2FA788BC| |7C9964CB62573A22573B225E3EE527BA7C79E52941DC87255DE249AF14CB019BF3C| |107B42CD782EDC8CFF036049E67E| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| this is my TW/Nin that i run with currently. im gonna end up making a few adjustments yet but its very powerful in terms of damage. no end concerns at all cause Sei Kyoko is up whenever the blue runs low. massive aoe damage, would highly recommend fireball. defense is great until you are fighting against critters with big +to hit buffs... even being 5% over 'soft cap' like i am just isnt enough. there is definitely survival concerns in many areas of the game though -- its fine for team play anyways but solo can be rough in dark astoria, for example. usually only able run solo on +2/8 cause +3 or +4 has too many coinflips going on and is not worthwhile.... Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.0.5.6https://github.com/Reborn-Team/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Magic ScrapperPrimary Power Set: Titan WeaponsSecondary Power Set: NinjitsuPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: FlightPower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedAncillary Pool: Blaze Mastery Hero Profile:Level 1: Crushing Blow -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(3), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mk'Bit-Dam%(7)Level 1: Ninja Reflexes -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(7), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(9), Ksm-ToHit+(9), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(11)Level 2: Danger Sense -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(11), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(13)Level 4: Titan Sweep -- SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprScrStr-Dmg/Rchg(17), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(17), SprScrStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(19), SprScrStr-Rchg/+Crit(21)Level 6: Shinobi-Iri -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), RedFrt-Def(21), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(23)Level 8: Follow Through -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(23), Mk'Bit-Dam%(25), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(27), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(27)Level 10: Kuji-In Rin -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)Level 12: Boxing -- Empty(A)Level 14: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A), UnbGrd-ResDam(40), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(45), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(45), UnbGrd-Max HP%(46)Level 16: Weave -- Rct-Def(A), Rct-Def/EndRdx(29), Rct-EndRdx/Rchg(40), Rct-Def/Rchg(40), Rct-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Rct-ResDam%(42)Level 18: Rend Armor -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(31), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(31), Hct-Acc/Rchg(31), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(33), AchHee-ResDeb%(33)Level 20: Kuji-In Sha -- Prv-Heal(A), Prv-Heal/EndRdx(33), Prv-EndRdx/Rchg(34), Prv-Heal/Rchg(34), Prv-Heal/Rchg/EndRdx(34), Prv-Absorb%(36)Level 22: Fly -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(46)Level 24: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 26: Whirling Smash -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(36), Arm-Acc/Rchg(37), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(37), FrcFdb-Rechg%(37)Level 28: Bo Ryaku -- UnbGrd-ResDam(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(39), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(39), UnbGrd-Rchg/ResDam(39)Level 30: Build Momentum -- GssSynFr--Build%(A)Level 32: Arc of Destruction -- SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg(A), SprCrtStr-Dmg/Rchg(42), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), SprCrtStr-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprCrtStr-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), SprCrtStr-Rchg/+50% Crit(45)Level 35: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(46)Level 38: Ring of Fire -- GrvAnc-Hold%(A)Level 41: Melt Armor -- AchHee-ResDeb%(A)Level 44: Fire Ball -- Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(A), Ann-Dmg/Rchg(48), Ann-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Ann-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(48), Ann-ResDeb%(50), Ann-Acc/Dmg(50)Level 47: Seishinteki Kyoyo -- EffAdp-EndMod(A), EffAdp-EndMod/Rchg(50)Level 49: Kuji-In Retsu -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 1: Critical HitLevel 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- UnbLea-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(13), Pnc-Heal/+End(15)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15), PwrTrns-+Heal(29)Level 1: MomentumLevel 50: Ageless Radial EpiphanyLevel 50: Reactive Radial Flawless InterfaceLevel 50: Assault Radial EmbodimentLevel 50: Musculature Core ParagonLevel 50: The Atlas MedallionLevel 50: Task Force CommanderLevel 50: Portal JockeyLevel 50: Freedom Phalanx ReserveLevel 22: AfterburnerLevel 50: Ion Core Final JudgementLevel 50: Banished Pantheon Radial Superior Ally------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fraunhofer Posted June 23, 2021 Share Posted June 23, 2021 Ghuts: Level 50 Natural Class_Scrapper Character Profile: ------------------ Level 1: Inherent Inherent Brawl EMPTY Level 1: Inherent Inherent prestige_DVD_Glidep EMPTY Level 1: Inherent Inherent Sprint Crafted_Run (50+5) Level 2: Inherent Inherent Rest EMPTY Level 2: Inherent Fitness Swift Crafted_Run (50+5) Level 2: Inherent Fitness Hurdle Crafted_Jump (50+5) Level 2: Inherent Fitness Health Attuned_Panacea_F (1) Attuned_Miracle_F (1) Attuned_Numinas_Convalesence_F (1) Level 2: Inherent Fitness Stamina Attuned_Performance_Shifter_F (1) Attuned_Performance_Shifter_A (1) Attuned_Performance_Shifter_B (1) Level 1: Scrapper_Melee Titan_Weapons Crushing_Blow Superior_Attuned_Superior_Critical_Strikes_A (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Critical_Strikes_F (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Critical_Strikes_B (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Critical_Strikes_C (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Critical_Strikes_E (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Critical_Strikes_D (1) Level 2: Scrapper_Melee Titan_Weapons Sweeping_Strike Superior_Attuned_Superior_Scrappers_Strike_E (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Scrappers_Strike_D (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Scrappers_Strike_A (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Scrappers_Strike_C (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Scrappers_Strike_F (1) Superior_Attuned_Superior_Scrappers_Strike_B (1) Level 6: Scrapper_Melee Titan_Weapons Follow_Through Attuned_Touch_of_Death_A (1) Attuned_Touch_of_Death_E (1) Attuned_Touch_of_Death_D (1) Attuned_Touch_of_Death_C (1) Attuned_Touch_of_Death_B (1) Attuned_Touch_of_Death_F (1) Level 8: Scrapper_Melee Titan_Weapons Build_Up Crafted_Recharge (50+5) Crafted_Recharge (50+5) Level 18: Scrapper_Melee Titan_Weapons Shatter_Armor Superior_Attuned_Hecatomb_C (1) Superior_Attuned_Hecatomb_B (1) Superior_Attuned_Hecatomb_D (1) Superior_Attuned_Hecatomb_A (1) Superior_Attuned_Hecatomb_E (1) Superior_Attuned_Hecatomb_F (1) Level 26: Scrapper_Melee Titan_Weapons Whirling_Slice Superior_Attuned_Armageddon_C (1) Superior_Attuned_Armageddon_B (1) Superior_Attuned_Armageddon_A (1) Superior_Attuned_Armageddon_D (1) Superior_Attuned_Armageddon_F (1) Superior_Attuned_Armageddon_E (1) Level 32: Scrapper_Melee Titan_Weapons Arc_of_Destruction Attuned_Obliteration_B (1) Attuned_Obliteration_D (1) Attuned_Obliteration_C (1) Attuned_Obliteration_E (1) Attuned_Obliteration_A (1) Attuned_Obliteration_F (1) Level 49: Scrapper_Melee Titan_Weapons Confront Attuned_Perfect_Zinger_D (1) Level 1: Scrapper_Defense Willpower High_Pain_Tolerance Crafted_Heal (50+5) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_A (1) Crafted_Heal (50+5) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_B (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_D (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_E (1) Level 4: Scrapper_Defense Willpower Mind_Over_Body Attuned_Gladiators_Armor_F (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_A (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_B (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_F (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_D (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_E (1) Level 10: Scrapper_Defense Willpower Indomitable_Will Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_F (1) Attuned_Reactive_Defenses_F (1) Level 16: Scrapper_Defense Willpower Rise_to_the_Challenge Attuned_Preventive_Medicine_A (1) Attuned_Preventive_Medicine_F (1) Attuned_Preventive_Medicine_B (1) Attuned_Preventive_Medicine_E (1) Attuned_Preventive_Medicine_D (1) Attuned_Preventive_Medicine_C (1) Level 20: Scrapper_Defense Willpower Quick_Recovery Attuned_Performance_Shifter_F (1) Attuned_Performance_Shifter_A (1) Attuned_Performance_Shifter_B (1) Level 28: Scrapper_Defense Willpower Heightened_Senses Attuned_Shield_Wall_F (1) Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_F (1) Attuned_Shield_Wall_E (1) Attuned_Shield_Wall_A (1) Attuned_Shield_Wall_B (1) Level 35: Scrapper_Defense Willpower Resurgence Crafted_Recharge (50+5) Level 41: Scrapper_Defense Willpower Fast_Healing Crafted_Heal (50+5) Level 12: Pool Leaping Combat_Jumping Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_F (1) Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_E (1) Level 14: Pool Speed Hasten Crafted_Recharge (50+5) Crafted_Recharge (50+5) Level 22: Pool Fighting Boxing EMPTY Level 24: Pool Fighting Tough Attuned_Steadfast_Protection_B (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_A (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_B (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_D (1) Attuned_Unbreakable_Guard_E (1) Level 30: Pool Fighting Weave Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_F (1) Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_A (1) Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_E (1) Level 38: Pool Leadership Assault Crafted_Endurance_Discount (50+5) Level 44: Pool Leadership Defense Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_F (1) Attuned_Luck_of_the_Gambler_E (1) Level 47: Pool Leadership Tactics Attuned_Gaussians_Synchronized_FireControl_F (1) Attuned_Gaussians_Synchronized_FireControl_A (1) ------------------ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Scarydino369 Posted October 5, 2021 Share Posted October 5, 2021 TW/WP lets me cosplay as Guts both thematically and mechanically Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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