I-Dirty Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Do tanks "solo" AVs and if so do they do it efficiently and if so what specs? Sorry just saw some stuff on other forums and it tweaked my interest Why yes I do know what a search feature is. However with the 1000 returns it is hard to dig through all that. So I ask in posts. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 They can, but it takes hot damage. Surviving an AV isn't hard for most (all?) tanks, but beating it with raw damage requires a bit of optimization. But once optimization comes in most builds can-ish. 1 - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted September 18, 2021 Share Posted September 18, 2021 Tight attack chains using the highest DPA attacks backed by solid slotting, often with procs, and layering on more damage and/or debuffs from the incarnate powers. But it's all lies until you can solo a +4 Aeon in the MLTF with no insps, temps or amps! ... He always kicks my ass. /runs away sobbing 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Ugh. One of my few deaths, and I think I was only on +2, and using amps. I altered my tactics and was fine, but I’m pretty sure +4 would destroy me, and I’m not sure I’d have the DPS on the off chance I survived. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 I really hate that guy. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Anyway, yes, some Tankers solo AVs. Some Tankers solo level 54 AVs no temps no insps no amps. Since Tankers are low on the melee damage scale, I wouldn't describe it as "efficiently", and you'll probably need to build specifically for that DPS. I think a high-DPS secondary is probably more important than your primary, but a primary that buffs damage in some way is also helpful. Then build yourself a high-DPS attack chain like Bill says. You also can't completely neglect survivability, but that part's easy on Tankers for most AVs. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethereal Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Here's the question: has anyone soloed Ghost Widow as a Tanker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 25 minutes ago, aethereal said: Here's the question: has anyone soloed Ghost Widow as a Tanker. Yes. Her and Sirocco together, level 54, using amps, but not temps or insps. It didn't seem particularly rough, just annoying going for the occasional spin. I'm sure she's doable without amps as well... unless I'm remembering wrong. I'm not going through an MLTF to get to her again, but surely she's in AE... Edited September 19, 2021 by Werner Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sovera Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Tried it a couple of times and things were going well, but once the spinning happened it was a no go. Same as with Positron. That one nearly demands something with DDR and a solid slow protection. - Simple guide for newcomers. - Money making included among other things. - Tanker Fire Armor: the Turtle, the Allrounder, the Dragon, and compilation of Fire Armor builds. - Tanker Stone Armor: beginner friendly (near) immortal Tanker for leveling/end-game and Stone Armor framework. - Brute Rad/Stone and compilation of Brute Stone Armor builds. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethereal Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 1 hour ago, Werner said: Yes. Her and Sirocco together, level 54, using amps, but not temps or insps. It didn't seem particularly rough, just annoying going for the occasional spin. I'm sure she's doable without amps as well... unless I'm remembering wrong. I'm not going through an MLTF to get to her again, but surely she's in AE... Huh, can tanks survive the spin? When I did her as my stalker (using insps), I just burned her down before she landed one on me. Figured tanks would have a problem with that. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bill Z Bubba Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 37 minutes ago, aethereal said: Huh, can tanks survive the spin? Should be the normal equation: if your mitigation > her hold's damage, you win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethereal Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 20 minutes ago, Bill Z Bubba said: Should be the normal equation: if your mitigation > her hold's damage, you win. Yeah, though of course your toggles are suppressed because you're held. I just thought that the damage from it was above any AT's max hp. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 30 minutes ago, aethereal said: Yeah, though of course your toggles are suppressed because you're held. I just thought that the damage from it was above any AT's max hp. I'm playing a Shield/MA with 3326 hit points. With all toggles suppressed/off, my defenses range from 19% to 24%, but for a little bit I'm at 29% to 34% from Storm Kick. I have click mez protection, so I still have my mez protection, and probably 43% DDR since it's usually double stacked. I have 69% resistance to energy and negative with everything detoggled...?! Huh. And I assume they're even higher for a bit from the stacking of the Tanker ATO, and then higher after taking damage due to Reactive Defenses. I don't think she can kill me without her friends. But I'm not sure I can kill her without her friends either, as I'm using Against All Odds to boost my damage. Today she was a lot more annoying than I remember. I guess I was either lucky last time, or unlucky this time, but I still took her down. Level 54, using amps, no temps no insps no Lore. And while I can survive the spin, she did kill me with it on my first attempt today, I guess because I'd left enough of the spawn that she and they managed to do enough damage while I was vulnerable. Annoyingly, she was down to about 10% when she finally killed me. Second attempt I ended up running after a spin left me almost dead. Third attempt I left nothing but minions, and was able to survive her spin without it getting too scary. Then it was just a matter of doing enough damage between spins and whatever she's doing that leaves me only affecting self. It took a while. I am a Tanker, so I'm slow. Edited September 19, 2021 by Werner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethereal Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 Nice! Having almost 70% neg energy resist detoggled is probably the key. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Posted September 19, 2021 Share Posted September 19, 2021 (edited) 21 minutes ago, aethereal said: Nice! Having almost 70% neg energy resist detoggled is probably the key. In hindsight, almost certainly! I don't remember surviving her spin before on any other character. Back in the old game, and prior to incarnates, I had over 50 solo attempts on her at level 50, no temps no insps with my Dark Melee/Super Reflexes Scrapper before I finally gave up and accepted that I couldn't beat her. I just needed that magic run where somehow she never landed the spin, but I never got that magic run. Edited September 20, 2021 by Werner 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Werner Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 I just did it without amplifiers, but I had to use Lore, which makes me feel dirtier than amplifiers. I don't think it's possible for my build without one or the other. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
aethereal Posted September 20, 2021 Share Posted September 20, 2021 4 hours ago, Werner said: In hindsight, almost certainly! I don't remember surviving her spin before on any other character. Back in the old game, and prior to incarnates, I had over 50 solo attempts on her at level 50, no temps no insps with my Dark Melee/Super Reflexes Scrapper before I finally gave up and accepted that I couldn't beat her. I just needed that magic run where somehow she never landed the spin, but I never got that magic run. Yeah, with my stalker, it was like, "a few purples because I was bio armor and wasn't quite softcapped to neg energy, then lots of reds (and I think Lore) and just hope." I didn't take 50 shots at her, but it feels like it would have been de facto impossible to do a pure no-insp, no-lore, no nothing run. Needless to say, if she did land a spin on me, it was game over, I had no ability to survive it solo. She's one of the more interesting AVs to fight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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