thebondfamily Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 (edited) Hello all! So I just unlocked all incarnates on my Elec/Shield stalker and I'm loving the toon. I've been following Kruunch and Coax's thread with their builds, and im probably going to run a mostly similar build to the one Kruunch runs with Zapp and Spring Attack. Just as a general question, is this build the most optimized version I can run? I would like to eek out as much damage as i can and im looking for someone to fine tune this build and optimize it as much as possible. I would love to find a way to perma Hasten and up the damage if possible, even if I have to sacrifice some survivability to do so. Thank you all for taking the time. This is his build, the most up to date i can find, all credit goes to Kruunch for this build. Slightly improved version of this build I'm currently running: Villain Plan by Mids' Villain Designer 1.962http://www.cohplanner.com/ Click this DataLink to open the build! Kraash: Level 50 Technology StalkerPrimary Power Set: Electrical MeleeSecondary Power Set: Shield DefensePower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Havoc Punch -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(3), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mk'Bit-Dam%(7)Level 1: Hide -- DefBuff-I(A)Level 2: Deflection -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(7), LucoftheG-Def(9), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(9)Level 4: Battle Agility -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(11), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(11), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(50)Level 6: Assassin's Shock -- SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg(A), SprStlGl-Dmg/Rchg(13), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(13), SprStlGl-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(15), SprStlGl-Rchg/Hide%(17)Level 8: Super Jump -- Jump-I(A)Level 10: Combat Jumping -- BlsoftheZ-Travel(A), BlsoftheZ-Travel/EndRdx(50), BlsoftheZ-ResKB(50)Level 12: Kick -- Empty(A)Level 14: Spring Attack -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(23), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(23), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25), Obl-%Dam(27)Level 16: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(27)Level 18: Chain Induction -- SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAssMar-Dmg/Rchg(29), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(29), SprAssMar-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(31), SprAssMar-Rchg/Rchg Build Up(31)Level 20: Build Up -- GssSynFr--ToHit(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(33), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(34), GssSynFr--Build%(34)Level 22: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 24: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(34), RechRdx-I(36)Level 26: Thunder Strike -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(36), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(36), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), Obl-%Dam(37), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37)Level 28: Tough -- StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(A)Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(39), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(39), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(39)Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(40), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(40), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(40), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Obl-%Dam(42)Level 35: Shield Charge -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(42), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(43), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(43), Obl-%Dam(45)Level 38: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(45), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(46)Level 41: True Grit -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)Level 44: Zapp -- SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg(A), SprWntBit-Dmg/Rchg(46), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx(46), SprWntBit-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), SprWntBit-Dmg/EndRdx/Acc/Rchg(48), SprWntBit-Rchg/SlowProc(48)Level 47: Grant Cover -- DefBuff-I(A)Level 49: Assault -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 1: Assassination Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Clr-Stlth(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Health -- Mrc-Rcvry+(A), NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(17), Pnc-Heal/+End(19)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(19), PrfShf-EndMod/Rchg(21), PrfShf-EndMod/Acc(21)------------ Edited January 20, 2022 by thebondfamily
Croax Posted January 20, 2022 Posted January 20, 2022 Going for Mu Epic and skipping Ball Lightining or 3 slotting Hasten are choices that i would not make. Here is the build that i have currently posted in my Tier List Thread. It is the latest version of my Elec/Shield which i have not played for a very long time: Spoiler This Villain build was built using Mids Reborn 3.1.2.5https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Click this DataLink to open the build! Level 50 Mutation StalkerPrimary Power Set: Electrical MeleeSecondary Power Set: Shield DefensePower Pool: LeapingPower Pool: SpeedPower Pool: FightingPower Pool: LeadershipAncillary Pool: Mu Mastery Villain Profile:Level 1: Havoc Punch -- Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg(A), Mk'Bit-Dmg/EndRdx(3), Mk'Bit-Dmg/Rchg(3), Mk'Bit-Acc/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mk'Bit-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(5), Mk'Bit-Dam%(7)Level 1: Hide -- Ksm-ToHit+(A), ShlWal-ResDam/Re TP(7)Level 2: Deflection -- Ags-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(A), Ags-ResDam/EndRdx(9), LucoftheG-Def(9), LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(11), Ags-ResDam(11), Ags-Psi/Status(13)Level 4: Battle Agility -- RedFrt-Def/EndRdx(A), RedFrt-Def/Rchg(17), RedFrt-EndRdx/Rchg(17), RedFrt-Def/EndRdx/Rchg(19), RedFrt-Def(19), RedFrt-EndRdx(21)Level 6: Assassin's Shock -- SprStlGl-Rchg/Hide%(A), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(21), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg(23), SprStlGl-Dmg/Rchg(23), SprStlGl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(25), SprStlGl-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(25)Level 8: Build Up -- GssSynFr--Build%(A), GssSynFr--ToHit/EndRdx(27), GssSynFr--ToHit(27), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg(29), GssSynFr--ToHit/Rchg/EndRdx(29), GssSynFr--Rchg/EndRdx(31)Level 10: True Grit -- RctArm-ResDam(A), RctArm-ResDam/EndRdx(31), StdPrt-ResDam/Def+(31)Level 12: Combat Jumping -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(33)Level 14: Hasten -- RechRdx-I(A), RechRdx-I(33)Level 16: Active Defense -- RechRdx-I(A)Level 18: Chain Induction -- Hct-Dmg(A), Hct-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(33), Hct-Dmg/Rchg(34), Hct-Dmg/EndRdx(34), Hct-Dam%(34)Level 20: Against All Odds -- EndRdx-I(A)Level 22: Boxing -- Acc-I(A)Level 24: Tough -- UnbGrd-Max HP%(A), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx/Rchg(36), UnbGrd-ResDam(36), UnbGrd-ResDam/EndRdx(36)Level 26: Thunder Strike -- SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg(A), SprAssMar-Dmg/Rchg(37), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(37), SprAssMar-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(37), SprAssMar-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(39), SprAssMar-Rchg/Rchg Build Up(39)Level 28: Grant Cover -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A)Level 30: Weave -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), Rct-ResDam%(39), Rct-Def(40), Rct-Def/EndRdx(50)Level 32: Lightning Rod -- Obl-Dmg(A), Obl-Acc/Rchg(40), Obl-Dmg/Rchg(40), Obl-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(42), Obl-Acc/Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(42), Obl-%Dam(42)Level 35: Shield Charge -- Arm-Dmg(A), Arm-Dam%(43), Arm-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(43), Arm-Acc/Rchg(43), Arm-Dmg/EndRdx(45)Level 38: One with the Shield -- GldArm-3defTpProc(A)Level 41: Zapp -- StnoftheM-Dam%(A), StnoftheM-Acc/Dmg(45), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx(45), StnoftheM-Dmg/EndRdx/Rchg(46), StnoftheM-Dmg/ActRdx/Rchg(46)Level 44: Ball Lightning -- Rgn-Dmg(A), Rgn-Dmg/Rchg(46), Rgn-Acc/Dmg/Rchg(48), Rgn-Dmg/EndRdx(48), Rgn-Acc/Rchg(48)Level 47: Maneuvers -- LucoftheG-Def/Rchg+(A), LucoftheG-Def(50), LucoftheG-Def/EndRdx(50)Level 49: Super Speed -- Run-I(A)Level 1: Assassination Level 1: Brawl -- Empty(A)Level 1: Sprint -- Empty(A)Level 2: Rest -- Empty(A)Level 2: Swift -- Run-I(A)Level 2: Hurdle -- Jump-I(A)Level 2: Health -- NmnCnv-Regen/Rcvry+(A), Mrc-Rcvry+(13), Pnc-Heal/+End(15)Level 2: Stamina -- PrfShf-End%(A), PrfShf-EndMod(15)Level 1: Prestige Power Dash -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Slide -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Quick -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Rush -- Empty(A)Level 1: Prestige Power Surge -- Empty(A)Level 4: Ninja Run Level 50: Musculature Core Paragon Level 50: Ageless Core Epiphany Level 50: Ion Core Final Judgement Level 50: Assault Core Embodiment Level 50: Reactive Core Flawless Interface Level 50: Longbow Core Superior Ally Level 49: Speed Phase Level 49: Quick Form ------------ More than just a Ninja - A Guide to Stalkers Croax's Tier List and Build Collection
thebondfamily Posted January 20, 2022 Author Posted January 20, 2022 Thanks for the reply. I did drop a slot from Hasten. I didn't take bill Lightning because Spring Attack is that "other" AoE although I am very tenuous about this decision still. With that build, are you at perma-hasten? I've reviewed that build alot and wonder if it would be changed in the modern meta.
MoonSheep Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 how are you guys finding endurance on this combo? i’ve just rolled one as my third alt in 3 years and quite excited for it i see you’ve both chosen thunder strike, does it regularly feature in your attack chain or is it mainly for limited scenarios? If you're not dying you're not living
Without_Pause Posted April 22, 2022 Posted April 22, 2022 On 1/20/2022 at 5:44 PM, thebondfamily said: I didn't take bill Lightning because Spring Attack is that "other" AoE although I am very tenuous about this decision still. Hopefully you made the right choice and switched to Ball Lightning. Here's why. Spring Attack does 55+ points of Smashing damage within the initial 5 foot range. It does 27+ points of Smashing damage for those outside of that radius up to the max radius of 15 feet. CoD doesn't show it as being able to crit. Max targets is 10. https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=redirects.pool_leaping.spring_attack&at=stalker Ball Lighting does 10 points of Energy damage three times over 3 seconds and 16+ points of Energy damage to start. This translates to 46+ points of damage. There is no diminish within the 15 feet radius. It also can crit. Max targets is 16. Also note, it is far easier to fire off. You can even slot the Chance to KD proc in it to mimic what Spring Attack does. https://cod.uberguy.net/html/power.html?power=epic.stalker_mu_mastery.ball_lightning&at=stalker Spring Attack is a neat idea supported by bad numbers. There's a reason why hardly anyone takes it. 1 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Gobbledigook Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 (edited) Lol this is an old Thread. @Without_Pause @MoonSheep Edited April 23, 2022 by Gobbledegook
Without_Pause Posted April 23, 2022 Posted April 23, 2022 I'm merely posting for anyone looking later on. These forums are pretty good for people to necro topics. More so with Stalker threads as this is one of the slower sections. 3 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
MoonSheep Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 8 hours ago, Gobbledegook said: Lol this is an old Thread. @Without_Pause @MoonSheep what changes to stalkers have been made since the post? i’m a bit out of the loop on melee ATs If you're not dying you're not living
Gobbledigook Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 5 hours ago, MoonSheep said: what changes to stalkers have been made since the post? i’m a bit out of the loop on melee ATs Perhaps start a new thread as i am not really a main stalker player. Just wanted to point out this is an old thread just in case you hadn't noticed...easily done :).
MoonSheep Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 54 minutes ago, Gobbledegook said: Perhaps start a new thread as i am not really a main stalker player. Just wanted to point out this is an old thread just in case you hadn't noticed...easily done :). thank you for your contribution If you're not dying you're not living
Without_Pause Posted April 24, 2022 Posted April 24, 2022 It literally says 3 months later above MoonSheep's post. Yes, it is an old thread. I knew that. MoonSheep was even asking the people who included Thunder Strike in their builds about it. in the land of nercoing, this is mild. 1 Top 10 Most Fun 50s. 1. Without Mercy: Claws/ea Scrapper. 2. Outsmart: Fort 3. Sneakers: Stj/ea Stalker. 4. Emma Strange: Ill/dark Controller. 5. Project Next: Ice/stone Brute. 6. Waterpark: Water/temp Blaster. 6. Mighty Matt: Rad/bio Brute. 7. Without Hesitation: Claws/sr Scrapper. 8. Within Reach: Axe/stone Brute. 9. Without Pause: Claws/wp Brute. 10. Chasing Fireworks: Fire/time Controller. "Downtime is for mortals. Debt is temporary. Fame is forever."
Bojutsu Posted May 26, 2022 Posted May 26, 2022 I just created one of these myself. "The Electric Horseman" I also plan to take Spring Attack. I hear negative things about it, but I'm taking it for fun. I will also be taking Mu Mastery for more electric powers.
MoonSheep Posted June 2, 2022 Posted June 2, 2022 On 5/26/2022 at 12:43 PM, Bojutsu said: I just created one of these myself. "The Electric Horseman" I also plan to take Spring Attack. I hear negative things about it, but I'm taking it for fun. I will also be taking Mu Mastery for more electric powers. what level are you up to so far? i‘ve been soloing mine and up to around 22 so far, i have a reasonable attack chain but think it’ll really come alive when i have both lightning rod and shield charge If you're not dying you're not living
Doomguide2005 Posted June 9, 2022 Posted June 9, 2022 It looks like it's not a pseudo pet so it'll break Hide/Hidden? Yes I still want to make a Stalker who can do a kill all while never losing Hidden status. 😜 1
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