WitchofDread Posted September 20, 2022 Share Posted September 20, 2022 Its time for a new controller, so help me choose! Dark Control Earth Control Poison Radiation Emission Cold Domination Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ringo Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Earth/Rad would be my first pick. Rad is a great set that can feel a bit unwieldy to play due to the anchor toggles. Earth is a pure control set that has a great slow patch in Quicksand with layered control stuns, holds, and knockdown meaning anything less than an AV is going to stay exactly where you want them. The messiness of /Rad solved! Also as an Earth controller you won't be doing *any* damage so none of those "I just debuffed that group only to kill them, what a waste" working against yourself bad feels! Instead, you lock 'em down, you debuff, and everyone asks if they can up the diffculty because it's too easy. Job well done, controller! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Psyonico Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Depends on what your want to do with it... I've been eyeing an Earth/Cold for a couple days, myself. What this team needs is more Defenders Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BurningDezire Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 2 hours ago, Psyonico said: Depends on what your want to do with it... I've been eyeing an Earth/Cold for a couple days, myself. I love my Earth/Cold troller. Very fun. Especially in HM ITFs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZorkNemesis Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 Dark/Cold sounds like good synergy. +Def shields and aura and -ToHit control effects. Currently playing on Indomitable as @Zork Nemesis; was a Protector native on live. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WitchofDread Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) So after some juggling i have produced the following Dark/Cold/Ice build. Hasten is perma, Benumb is 3.37 secs off being perma, and Heat Loss im not so sure as Mids isnt showing for me. Capped S/L/Ranged Def. There wont be any end issues with Heat Loss, but could really use Ageless for the extra Rech, but Clarion would probably be better suited. Thought? Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Darkness Control Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Flight Ancillary Pool: Ice Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Dark Grasp (A) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Hold (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Recharge (3) Basilisk's Gaze - Recharge/Hold (5) Basilisk's Gaze - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge/Hold (5) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) (7) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 1: Infrigidate (A) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage (7) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (9) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (9) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (11) Ice Mistral's Torment - Chance for Cold Damage Level 2: Living Shadows (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage (11) Artillery - Damage/Endurance (13) Artillery - Damage/Recharge (13) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range (15) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range Level 4: Mystic Flight (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) (17) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance Level 6: Possess (A) Coercive Persuasion - Confused (17) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge (19) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge/Accuracy (19) Coercive Persuasion - Recharge/Accuracy (21) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance (21) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion Level 8: Fearsome Stare (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration (23) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge (23) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge (27) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage Level 10: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (27) Recharge Reduction IO (50) Recharge Reduction IO Level 12: Heart of Darkness (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (29) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (29) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (31) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (31) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 14: Kick (A) Empty Level 16: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (33) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 18: Haunt (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance (34) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (34) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 20: Arctic Fog (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (36) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 22: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 24: Hover (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 26: Shadow Field (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 28: Benumb (A) Accuracy IO (37) Recharge Reduction IO (37) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Ice Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 32: Umbra Beast (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (39) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up (40) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic) Level 35: Sleet (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge Level 38: Heat Loss (A) Preemptive Optimization - Accuracy/Recharge (40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance (40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Recharge (42) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Endurance (42) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge (42) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance/Recharge Level 41: Ice Blast (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (43) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (43) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge (43) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (45) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy (45) Gladiator's Javelin - Chance of Damage(Toxic) Level 44: Frozen Armor (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (45) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (46) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (46) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (46) Red Fortune - Defense (48) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 47: Ice Storm (A) Ragnarok - Damage (48) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge (48) Ragnarok - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (50) Ragnarok - Recharge/Accuracy (50) Ragnarok - Damage/Endurance Level 49: Glacial Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 1: Swift (A) Empty Level 1: Hurdle (A) Empty Level 1: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 1: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 50: Nerve Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1617;683;1366;HEX;| |78DA75945B4F135110C7FFBBDD6DA12D502C581010E4260A948B9737A3B1C584041| |212139FD4DA94820DA58B6D4DF473F8E037F0FA60F41BF82E890F6A4CF4C147A372| |5313EFAEC3CE0E0C124ED2EEEFCCF9CFA573A63B7D231D5D7E367506462C55CC562| |A999453AA969D62315FB6A7B3F3851C3657883E3DDB27224AA6B3E585527EDBAB53| |69CE5E9F9B4BA69CE26C26ED2C164AD96AC129213AE390DB79A79CCB976F8679B39| |4CFCFD67978AE307FB55A28CD477857DCDCC626960AB9E4642E9F99CE56AAE4D542| |B574D1E74382BE0CC8726DE08509745830F152E0158385D7028BE43266218849D38| |3853AE8E55A4030E06983B0196AF094B4F14D5866A730EA6D0F3E5211862EC240C0| |F625164314B64090A11E21811A865B7D4040156104F09633C5F086E11365B275261| |B17457289611F2E0B64189A704520CBB04261423A4C087702DEC97EDC15B8C7D082| |FB020F180EE02143374D44AD0A63D66210BEC4873181554A19D12923F8CBC5B493A| |30FE0B80771CAF4E1B458DEFB974929D55DB9B471692140F606DDBB06240CCFA30B| |E31C638D2A68D41534628DD374615D6083E1103E0B7C11F8CAB044E9E32A8C11473| |34F530FFE80E78B8A69D67D69DE963409C4186A499B505A2444BB4EF5B6EA9356E9| |E5352AA14DC76FA3867B27BD22D98222693B74940E89BF41F13B753F3AA51FBDD28| |F7E6943BFB4A11F2986C378C761CA94A05B27E8C6739654E8A4CFD8FA77BA761FBE| |59BEF377811F0C47F053E097C06F8647747D03BACE018C7182A31815181648320C6| |1446088AFFF313D06759841840D5F1261184654A04EA09E61040D0C4F284C5285B1| |9218377DC93181E3A63FFC27044E3294A825A3BA59A3721B34363BDE406EFB7F06C| |F48933EB5877DC6D22F42B21B6C5F09EF7C438A7E750FFBDA6EFB057F20779FDCE6| |9F3511A7873A71FF0154D0D471| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Alternatively i do have a variant that uses Stone Mastery, Def is all the same but i have slotted Force Feedback: +Rech into Fissure which knocks all the global rech issues out of the park. I'm not sure overall which would Epic set would offer the more damage overall. Spoiler This Hero build was built using Mids Reborn 3.4.6https://github.com/LoadedCamel/MidsReborn Level 50 Magic Controller Primary Power Set: Darkness Control Secondary Power Set: Cold Domination Power Pool: Sorcery Power Pool: Speed Power Pool: Fighting Power Pool: Leaping Ancillary Pool: Stone Mastery Hero Profile: ------------ Level 1: Dark Grasp (A) Apocalypse - Chance of Damage(Negative) (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Endurance (3) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge (5) Apocalypse - Damage/Recharge/Accuracy (5) Apocalypse - Recharge/Accuracy (7) Unbreakable Constraint - Chance for Smashing Damage Level 1: Infrigidate (A) Shield Breaker - Chance for Lethal Damage (7) Shield Breaker - Accuracy/Endurance/Recharge (9) Achilles' Heel - Chance for Res Debuff (9) Touch of Lady Grey - Chance for Negative Damage (11) Ice Mistral's Torment - Chance for Cold Damage Level 2: Living Shadows (A) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage (11) Artillery - Damage/Endurance (13) Artillery - Damage/Recharge (13) Artillery - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (15) Artillery - Accuracy/Recharge/Range (15) Artillery - Endurance/Recharge/Range Level 4: Mystic Flight (A) Blessing of the Zephyr - Knockback Reduction (4 points) (50) Blessing of the Zephyr - Run Speed, Jump, Flight Speed, Range/Endurance Level 6: Possess (A) Coercive Persuasion - Confused (17) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge (17) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Recharge/Accuracy (19) Coercive Persuasion - Recharge/Accuracy (19) Coercive Persuasion - Confused/Endurance (21) Coercive Persuasion - Contagious Confusion Level 8: Fearsome Stare (A) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration (21) Superior Will of the Controller - Control Duration/Recharge (23) Superior Will of the Controller - Endurance/Recharge (23) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge (25) Superior Will of the Controller - Recharge/Chance for Psionic Damage Level 10: Hasten (A) Recharge Reduction IO (27) Recharge Reduction IO Level 12: Heart of Darkness (A) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (27) Obliteration - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance/Recharge (29) Obliteration - Chance for Smashing Damage (29) Armageddon - Chance for Fire Damage (31) Fury of the Gladiator - Chance for Res Debuff (31) Cloud Senses - Chance for Negative Energy Damage Level 14: Kick (A) Empty Level 16: Tough (A) Steadfast Protection - Resistance/+Def 3% (31) Gladiator's Armor - TP Protection +3% Def (All) Level 18: Haunt (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Damage/Endurance (33) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (34) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (34) Expedient Reinforcement - Resist Bonus Aura for Pets Level 20: Arctic Fog (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (34) Kismet - Accuracy +6% Level 22: Weave (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense (36) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Endurance Level 24: Combat Jumping (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 26: Shadow Field (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 28: Benumb (A) Accuracy IO (36) Recharge Reduction IO (37) Recharge Reduction IO Level 30: Ice Shield (A) Luck of the Gambler - Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed Level 32: Umbra Beast (A) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Recharge (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage (37) Expedient Reinforcement - Accuracy/Damage/Recharge (39) Expedient Reinforcement - Endurance/Damage/Recharge (39) Soulbound Allegiance - Chance for Build Up (39) Glimpse of the Abyss - Chance of Damage(Psionic) Level 35: Sleet (A) Analyze Weakness - Accuracy/Recharge Level 38: Heat Loss (A) Preemptive Optimization - Accuracy/Recharge (40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance (40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Recharge (40) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Endurance (42) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Accuracy/Recharge (42) Preemptive Optimization - EndMod/Endurance/Recharge Level 41: Fissure (A) Force Feedback - Chance for +Recharge (42) Explosive Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage (43) Javelin Volley - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (43) Positron's Blast - Chance of Damage(Energy) (43) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage/Endurance (45) Superior Frozen Blast - Accuracy/Damage Level 44: Seismic Smash (A) Superior Blistering Cold - Accuracy/Damage (45) Hecatomb - Chance of Damage(Negative) (45) Touch of Death - Chance of Damage(Negative) (46) Mako's Bite - Chance of Damage(Lethal) (46) Gladiator's Strike - Chance for Smashing Damage (46) Ghost Widow's Embrace - Chance of Damage(Psionic) Level 47: Rock Armor (A) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Recharge (48) Red Fortune - Endurance/Recharge (48) Red Fortune - Defense/Endurance/Recharge (50) Red Fortune - Defense (50) Red Fortune - Endurance Level 49: Earth's Embrace (A) Recharge Reduction IO Level 1: Containment Level 1: Brawl (A) Empty Level 1: Sprint (A) Empty Level 2: Rest (A) Empty Level 1: Swift (A) Empty Level 1: Hurdle (A) Empty Level 1: Health (A) Numina's Convalesence - +Regeneration/+Recovery Level 1: Stamina (A) Performance Shifter - Chance for +End Level 50: Nerve Core Paragon ------------ | Copy & Paste this data into Mids Reborn : Hero Designer to view the build | |-------------------------------------------------------------------| |MxDz;1620;692;1384;HEX;| |78DA75944B4F535110C7FFF745A1946781823C2D4FA914706F34164C4C20212171A| |5D61BB86043E9AD6D4DE403B83771E137F0B935C6AD7B49DCEBC2A5519E6AA2287A| |1DEE9C91838493DCF67766FE6766EE9C73EEECDDA9D8FA9B998B301A3379B75CCE6| |6FC42A5E4E7F35EC9997597730B3818117AFA0F3D224A4FB9A5958277B8AA57D35C| |BAB3B494CEF8F9C5EC94BF9A2BB8959C5F406CCEA765F37E69C12BAD457952F4BCC| |5BA102FE7966F5572856556CD786E9126CDD3C5DC427ABEE217BCECAC5BAED0C276| |2AA78F9E4F09FA312023708049931E1B262604C6186CA405C619AA708561A50EFA0| |86CA0CA02BA0F240E43355E93367E00EBBC288A7A2784CF5484A11761C07294C466| |88C111A862A84744A09AE1C1206069451816DE73A649BC63D8A04C8E9EC9C135F63| |4E2BAC00D866664056E32B4C065D8A430113D4C048F2C2579CCD08627024F19DAF1| |4CE03943920E458D16C6A8410AA1E794C01665AAD533D5E28FA924014357F8D6219| |C674B0F2E580A3E9A61F34DCAA46D51409380062CB237E82D6B40C20857F4E01CC7| |D8A60A9AF40A9AB0CD69FAB023B02BF085E134BE0A7C632852FAB8FEAE71B41A4AF| |21B614A9B8A69D52466AB48FAD122D0C8D046DA84A64542B43B546F87EEE9905EDE| |A6123AF5F89DD4441556490604F2A4EDD6A3744BFC5D8ADFABF7A357FA3120FD189| |0360C491B869011F8C0614A9420A92748E22D4BCAE41934FE5DCAC019C4773BF40C| |E387C09EC04F8633F825B0CFB041DB37A2D739827BA692ACF14D1C4592F77814AFA| |0E025AF3E8B170C7B3120A58749E1BE4852A6822C79866D8C6185C38C61C452B0CA| |AFBB49F3B41E268D287BC6C3F31D424CA0CE50D7B65EA081618BC24CE8E77842368| |CCECF912F50D0F59F2134D2919F39C13E67EB1F42B21B6CDF8C1EFD428A7EEB04FB| |F671FB5575328F7B1E7207A7E3F4A77982BF7397D796| |-------------------------------------------------------------------| Edited September 21, 2022 by WitchofDread 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guffnat Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 I’d go with Stone Mastery. It’s just too crunchy to be skipped. 2 back in the days: Zukunft (EU) ... nowadays: Everlasting Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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