Martial's Envenomed Blades Question

[SenkanYamato]

Does anyone know if the toxic add on damage from Martial's Envenomed Blades adds damage to your primary powers? Does it affect summons?

[subbacultchas]

My assumption is yes, but it's an assumption nonetheless. I don't think any other build-up type power is restricted to a primary or secondary.

[KelvinKole]

Yes, envenomed blades adds the bonus damage to your primary powers as well. I don't think it extends to pets (it shouldn't).

[SenkanYamato]

So if it doesn't affect summons...Dark, Plant, and Fire...probably the 3 strongest sets...are less impacted...

[subbacultchas]

So if it doesn't affect summons...Dark, Plant, and Fire...probably the 3 strongest sets...are less impacted...

If true, that makes two powers out of Plant that it doesn't affect. That's not that horrid considering the raw amount of damage Plant already does.

[SenkanYamato]

So if it doesn't affect summons...Dark, Plant, and Fire...probably the 3 strongest sets...are less impacted...

If true, that makes two powers out of Plant that it doesn't affect. That's not that horrid considering the raw amount of damage Plant already does.

The only powers it affects from Plant are Entangle, Strangler, and Roots.

[subbacultchas]

So if it doesn't affect summons...Dark, Plant, and Fire...probably the 3 strongest sets...are less impacted...

If true, that makes two powers out of Plant that it doesn't affect. That's not that horrid considering the raw amount of damage Plant already does.

The only powers it affects from Plant are Entangle, Strangler, and Roots.

Correct. Out of plant powers, only five have damage portions, and two are pet/summons. So it may not be the best pairing, but overall MA works really well with plant IME.

 

Also fair to point out that Roots has very good damage for aoe immob, so it affecting that is a good thing.

[Yamato]

So if it doesn't affect summons...Dark, Plant, and Fire...probably the 3 strongest sets...are less impacted...

If true, that makes two powers out of Plant that it doesn't affect. That's not that horrid considering the raw amount of damage Plant already does.

The only powers it affects from Plant are Entangle, Strangler, and Roots.

Correct. Out of plant powers, only five have damage portions, and two are pet/summons. So it may not be the best pairing, but overall MA works really well with plant IME.

 

Also fair to point out that Roots has very good damage for aoe immob, so it affecting that is a good thing.

Purpose for my post is to find out what primary Martial will help the most. Plant doesn't even need a secondary to be OP.

[subbacultchas]

So if it doesn't affect summons...Dark, Plant, and Fire...probably the 3 strongest sets...are less impacted...

If true, that makes two powers out of Plant that it doesn't affect. That's not that horrid considering the raw amount of damage Plant already does.

The only powers it affects from Plant are Entangle, Strangler, and Roots.

Correct. Out of plant powers, only five have damage portions, and two are pet/summons. So it may not be the best pairing, but overall MA works really well with plant IME.

 

Also fair to point out that Roots has very good damage for aoe immob, so it affecting that is a good thing.

Purpose for my post is to find out what primary Martial will help the most. Plant doesn't even need a secondary to be OP.

That makes sense. I had no clue what your purpose was, being unstated. You'll definitely want to skip those three, although I'd probably skip Elec too by the same token. Some of the better powers in it don't do damage, or negligible amounts.

[SenkanYamato]

Does anyone know if the toxic damage is a standard DoT for all powers or a % buff to damage? If it buffs the damage this chart comes into play.  It's an analysis of controller sets and single target damage.  The calculations for Dominators are old and didn't include pet damage.

 

ST:                 ST Dam    Pet Dam    Buffable Damage

Darkness Control 101.56 69.05%    31.43

Fire Control         100.72 39.01%    71.50

Gravity Control    86.93 24.94%    65.25

Plant Control           81.61 59.04%    33.43

Electric Control           66.35 56.33%    28.98

Ice Control           66.35 50.31%    32.97

Earth Control           59.29 49.72%    29.81

Mind Control           41.35 no pet      41.35

 

Source https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/19VuZ9zJ_8eKN11JytgaK9mt9Fy-8pjANopb-FGh68Uw/edit#gid=185019737

 

Gravity and Fire would win doing twice as much non pet single target damage as other sets. Propel and Hot Feet probably the difference. This would apply to any secondaries that have a build up/ Aim. They benefit Gravity and Fire more than the other sets.

[Sovera]

I was curious myself about the interactions of Envenomed Blade and having asked it in several places none could answer me. Bless the devs and Justin.

 

So, a quick and dirty test showed Envenomed Blade adding 1 point of toxic damage to an unenhanced skill. Bonfire, despite being a pseudopet, worked fine. Addin two damage IOs made the ticks go up to 2 points of damage.. It also worked on Caltrops.

[SenkanYamato]

I was curious myself about the interactions of Envenomed Blade and having asked it in several places none could answer me. Bless the devs and Justin.

 

So, a quick and dirty test showed Envenomed Blade adding 1 point of toxic damage to an unenhanced skill. Bonfire, despite being a pseudopet, worked fine. Addin two damage IOs made the ticks go up to 2 points of damage.. It also worked on Caltrops.

Thanks!