Most Overpowered Builds?

Protostar · January 13

I played CoH/V for MANY years back before it closed down.
My favorite back then was always my Energy/Elec Brute. I haven't kept up with the game since the Homecoming project released (I am coming back with the news of the license) to know what changes they made but I remember that NCSoft had made a change to how one particular move for Energy/Elec worked and that threw the whole thing outta whack. It was still fun but less so (it was an overhead smash move). I also remember some Doms just map herding enemies like it was no big deal and wiping them.

So I'm curious, what are the most OP builds/classes now for someone that likes:
DPS

Tanking with SOME DPS

Edited January 13 by Protostar

JJDrakken · January 14

5 hours ago, Protostar said:

I played CoH/V for MANY years back before it closed down.
My favorite back then was always my Energy/Elec Brute. I haven't kept up with the game since the Homecoming project released (I am coming back with the news of the license) to know what changes they made but I remember that NCSoft had made a change to how one particular move for Energy/Elec worked and that threw the whole thing outta whack. It was still fun but less so (it was an overhead smash move). I also remember some Doms just map herding enemies like it was no big deal and wiping them.

So I'm curious, what are the most OP builds/classes now for someone that likes:
DPS

Tanking with SOME DPS

For Armor: Radiation Armor is the best armor & it also has PBAOE attack in it.

For Melee Offense. Overall depends what you plan to fight all time, though if you actually do all content. Instead of living in a Farm or PI Radio Missions. Radiation Melee & Savage Melee are very good.

Onlyasandwich · January 14

For pure DPS, some classic all-stars would be:

Fire/electric blaster. Fire/fire is great too, but /electric offers some better DPA melee attacks and utility in the secondary.
Plant/fire Dominator. Not too far behind the blaster when properly built, and much more survivable with permadom. One of my all time favorite characters period.
EM/stone stalker or scrapper. Bogglingly good single target, with more aoe than you'd think.

For "tanking with some dps" any tank will do. If by "tank" you just mean survival, and not aggro control, my answer might include some others. However, tanks are so solid these days that almost any combo will do. Some stand-outs include:

Axe or WM/Rad armor. Good ST, outstanding aoe, with even more aoe from Rad. Endless endurance to fuel the machine, and very hard to kill. Axe is skewed more ST, WM more aoe.
EM/Bio or really anything Bio is good for optimal damage builds. I find bio just a bit fiddly, and have to be in the right mood for it personally.
Stone/Super strength is really great! Go no granite and you can be super survivable and still benefit from brimstone procs. Rage gives you more slotting freedom to proc up your secondary for more damage.

As a bonus, here is my personal Plant/fire dom. 🙂

No need for softcap shenanigans. Just resist with Rune when needed, and aggressive controls that do great damage on top of your blasts. Carrion Creepers can melt whole spawns mostly on its own, and you have a load of backup options when needed. Even so, all you typically need for safety is a good application of Seeds. Even seeds is applying a decent alpha shot with procs!

Dominator - Plant Control - Fiery Assault mk2.mbd

Edited December 14 by Onlyasandwich

Latex · January 14

City of Heroes is a game of buffs and debuffs the most OP team combo's will bring a mix of both.

Fire/Kin Corruptor
Ice/Cold Corruptor
Sonic/Sonic Defender

Fire/Kin Combo brings the best teamwide +DMG in the game and can pump more than a Blaster while supporting team, I love mine, it's a true ranged class unlike Blaster which is a combo melee and ranged without anywhere near the utility and support.

Ice/Cold strikes a nice balance, it has no flaws in what it brings. The best shields in the game +DEF, some very powerful -RES, insane -Regen for AV's, -DEF debuffs, it has everything except /Kins +DMG.

Sonic/Sonic is all about -RES thus the Defender Choice, you're not there to pump, more to provide one of the most sought after debuffs in the game. -RES cap with +DMG cap from /Kin is going to melt anything in the entire game.

If you want to Tank exclusively?

My Invul/SS tank is Invincible, I get purposefully reckless on that character to try and die and still don't. The only threat seems to be stuff that completely negates DEF and RES and even then the absolutely gigantic HP pool with Dull Pain? It's not happening!

Edited January 14 by Latex

Doomguide2005 · January 31

Talk to 100 players and you'll probably get 110 different answers. Take your favorites, get a strong build on them and run them through the 800 series in AE. Mostly you'll probably get chased right out the front door. The ones that can complete the highest and farthest in the series are your toughest and most resilient in all likelyhood (being both your best builds and the ones you play best individually). The series starts at 800.0 and runs upward from there to 800.F at the most difficult end which only the best teams will have a chance at completing. If you can get well past 800.4 at +4/x8 you'll be exceeding I dare say the vast majprity of players and their best builds.

Drederik · February 28

On 1/13/2024 at 1:49 PM, Protostar said:

I played CoH/V for MANY years back before it closed down.
My favorite back then was always my Energy/Elec Brute. I haven't kept up with the game since the Homecoming project released (I am coming back with the news of the license) to know what changes they made but I remember that NCSoft had made a change to how one particular move for Energy/Elec worked and that threw the whole thing outta whack. It was still fun but less so (it was an overhead smash move). I also remember some Doms just map herding enemies like it was no big deal and wiping them.

So I'm curious, what are the most OP builds/classes now for someone that likes:
DPS

Tanking with SOME DPS

did you play on pinnacle?

JakeM · December 12

On 1/14/2024 at 8:00 AM, Onlyasandwich said:

For pure DPS, some classic all-stars would be:

Fire/electric blaster. Fire/fire is great too, but /electric offers some better DPA melee attacks and utility in the secondary.

Plant/fire Dominator. Not too far behind the blaster when properly built, and much more survivable with permadom. One of my all time favorite characters period.

EM/stone stalker or scrapper. Bogglingly good single target, with more aoe than you'd think.

For "tanking with some dps" any tank will do. If by "tank" you just mean survival, and not aggro control, my answer might include some others. However, tanks are so solid these days that almost any combo will do. Some stand-outs include:

Axe or WM/Rad armor. Good ST, outstanding aoe, with even more aoe from Rad. Endless endurance to fuel the machine, and very hard to kill. Axe is skewed more ST, WM more aoe.

EM/Bio or really anything Bio is good for optimal damage builds. I find bio just a bit fiddly, and have to be in the right mood for it personally.

Stone/Super strength is really great! Go no granite and you can be super survivable and still benefit from brimstone procs. Rage gives you more slotting freedom to proc up your secondary for more damage.

As a bonus, here is my personal Plant/fire dom. 🙂

No need for softcap shenanigans. Just resist with Rune when needed, and aggressive controls that do great damage on top of your blasts. Carrier Creepers can melt whole spawns mostly on its own, and you have a load of backup options when needed. Even so, all you typically need for safety is a good application of Seeds. Even seeds is applying a decent alpha shot with procs!

Dominator - Plant Control - Fiery Assault mk2.mbd 43 kB · 725 downloads

Hey i would very much like to see your plant/fire build. im new to mids and dont know how to import builds. when i click download it gives me notes full of text

Hjarki · December 12

The question isn't really answerable unless you clarify what type of play you're doing. There are a lot of builds that are horrible when exemplar'd down to Posi levels. Most builds designed for farming or solo'ing AV/GM are weak running a generic task force. Support sets vary from "overpowered" to "worthless" depending on team composition and the type of content.

Probably the best answers you'll get are for very narrow content. People run tests against pylons, specific farms and the Trapdoor mission competitively, so there are builds that may not be the best possible but are definitely within sight of the best such builds.

Without_Pause · December 12

11 hours ago, JakeM said:

Hey i would very much like to see your plant/fire build. im new to mids and dont know how to import builds. when i click download it gives me notes full of text

I have the latest version of Mids, and I had no issue opening the file.

Octogoat · December 12

14 hours ago, JakeM said:

Hey i would very much like to see your plant/fire build. im new to mids and dont know how to import builds. when i click download it gives me notes full of text

Copy paste text open mids click builds>import from legacy>import from forum post

JakeM · December 13

21 hours ago, Octogoat said:

Copy paste text open mids click builds>import from legacy>import from forum post

Ive tried. It says unable to recognize data and that its in an invalid format.

Octogoat · December 13

9 minutes ago, JakeM said:

Ive tried. It says unable to recognize data and that its in an invalid format.

I get the same problem with some builds but as of yet have been unable to fix it

Onlyasandwich · December 14

On 12/11/2024 at 11:28 PM, JakeM said:

Hey i would very much like to see your plant/fire build.

Hi Jake! I'll include every version that I can share here in the hopes that one of them is accessible for you.

I still really love this build! Even after running it for some time, there's nothing I'd really change.

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Villain Dominator
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.5 rev. 21
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Primary powerset: Plant Control
Secondary powerset: Fiery Assault
Pool powerset (#1): Leaping
Pool powerset (#2): Speed
Pool powerset (#3): Sorcery
Pool powerset (#4): Flight
Ancillary powerset: Fire Mastery

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Strangler

A: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Accuracy/Control Duration
23: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance
23: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge
25: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Endurance/Recharge
29: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Recharge/Chance for +Damage

Level 1: Incinerate

A: Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage
50: Superior Blistering Cold: Damage/Endurance

Level 2: Roots

A: Ragnarok: Damage
3: Ragnarok: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
3: Ragnarok: Recharge/Accuracy
17: Ragnarok: Damage/Endurance
25: Ragnarok: Chance for Knockdown
29: Superior Dominating Grasp: RechargeTime/Fiery Orb

Level 4: Fire Breath

A: Positron's Blast: Accuracy/Damage
5: Positron's Blast: Damage/Endurance
5: Positron's Blast: Damage/Range
46: Positron's Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
46: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
48: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage

Level 6: Combat Jumping

A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed
7: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)
7: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage
15: Kismet: Accuracy +6%

Level 8: Seeds of Confusion

A: Malaise's Illusions: Accuracy/Recharge
9: Malaise's Illusions: Accuracy/Endurance
9: Malaise's Illusions: Confused/Range
17: Malaise's Illusions: Accuracy/Confused/Recharge
45: Malaise's Illusions: Chance of Damage(Psionic)
46: Cacophany: Chance of Damage(Energy)

Level 10: Fire Blast

A: Decimation: Accuracy/Damage
11: Decimation: Damage/Endurance
11: Decimation: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
13: Decimation: Damage/Recharge
15: Decimation: Chance of Build Up
50: Gladiator's Javelin: Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 12: Hasten

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
13: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 14: Hover

A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 16: Embrace of Fire

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction
50: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 18: Vines

A: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Endurance
19: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge
19: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge/Accuracy
21: Unbreakable Constraint: Recharge/Accuracy
21: Unbreakable Constraint: Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 20: Mystic Flight

A: Winter's Gift: Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 22: Carrion Creepers

A: Bombardment: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
27: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage
27: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
34: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
37: Javelin Volley: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
40: Trap of the Hunter: Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 24: Spirit Ward

A: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb

Level 26: Fly Trap

A: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage
33: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
33: Expedient Reinforcement: Damage/Endurance
33: Expedient Reinforcement: Endurance/Damage/Recharge
34: Soulbound Allegiance: Chance for Build Up
34: Touch of Lady Grey: Chance for Negative Damage

Level 28: Blazing Bolt

A: Superior Winter's Bite: Accuracy/Damage
31: Superior Winter's Bite: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
31: Superior Winter's Bite: Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
36: Gladiator's Javelin: Chance of Damage(Toxic)
37: Sting of the Manticore: Chance of Damage(Toxic)
37: Apocalypse: Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 30: Blaze

A: Apocalypse: Damage
31: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge
39: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
39: Apocalypse: Recharge/Accuracy
40: Apocalypse: Damage/Endurance
40: Gladiator's Javelin: Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 32: Rune of Protection

A: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%
48: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 35: Fire Ball

A: Superior Frozen Blast: Accuracy/Damage
36: Superior Frozen Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance
36: Positron's Blast: Damage/Endurance
42: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)
43: Javelin Volley: Chance of Damage(Lethal)
43: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage

Level 38: Fire Shield

A: Invention: Resist Damage
39: Ribosome Exposure

Level 41: Rain of Fire

A: Superior Frozen Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge
42: Superior Frozen Blast: Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime
42: Superior Frozen Blast: Damage/Endurance

Level 44: Consume

A: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge
45: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy
48: Armageddon: Recharge/Accuracy
A: Armageddon: Damage/Endurance
45: Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage

Level 47: Spore Burst

A: Call of the Sandman: Chance of Heal Self

Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix

A: Overwhelming Force: Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown

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Inherents:

Level 1: Domination

Level 1: Brawl

(Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

(Empty)

Level 2: Rest

(Empty)

Level 1: Swift

(Empty)

Level 1: Hurdle

(Empty)

Level 1: Health

A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance

Level 1: Stamina

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End

Level 49: Quick Form

Level 14: Translocation

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Grimm2 · December 16

I just want to vouch for @Onlyasandwich's Plant/fire/fire Dom build. I think I put a full set of Coercive Persuasion in Seeds, and haven't gotten the Winters in there, but it's otherwise the same. It's a carry-the-team kinda build. It feels illegal to have the kind of aggression that thing can output. It feels like a Diablo Corpse Explosion Necromancer, but with fire.

JakeM · December 16

23 hours ago, Onlyasandwich said:

Hi Jake! I'll include every version that I can share here in the hopes that one of them is accessible for you.

I still really love this build! Even after running it for some time, there's nothing I'd really change.

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Villain Dominator
Build plan made with Mids' Reborn v3.7.5 rev. 21
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Primary powerset: Plant Control

Secondary powerset: Fiery Assault

Pool powerset (#1): Leaping

Pool powerset (#2): Speed

Pool powerset (#3): Sorcery

Pool powerset (#4): Flight

Ancillary powerset: Fire Mastery

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Powers taken:

Level 1: Strangler

A: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Accuracy/Control Duration

23: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance

23: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Accuracy/Control Duration/Endurance/Recharge

25: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Endurance/Recharge

29: Superior Ascendency of the Dominator: Recharge/Chance for +Damage

Level 1: Incinerate

A: Superior Blistering Cold: Accuracy/Damage

50: Superior Blistering Cold: Damage/Endurance

Level 2: Roots

A: Ragnarok: Damage

3: Ragnarok: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy

3: Ragnarok: Recharge/Accuracy

17: Ragnarok: Damage/Endurance

25: Ragnarok: Chance for Knockdown

29: Superior Dominating Grasp: RechargeTime/Fiery Orb

Level 4: Fire Breath

A: Positron's Blast: Accuracy/Damage

5: Positron's Blast: Damage/Endurance

5: Positron's Blast: Damage/Range

46: Positron's Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

46: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)

48: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage

Level 6: Combat Jumping

A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

7: Shield Wall: +Res (Teleportation), +5% Res (All)

7: Reactive Defenses: Scaling Resist Damage

15: Kismet: Accuracy +6%

Level 8: Seeds of Confusion

A: Malaise's Illusions: Accuracy/Recharge

9: Malaise's Illusions: Accuracy/Endurance

9: Malaise's Illusions: Confused/Range

17: Malaise's Illusions: Accuracy/Confused/Recharge

45: Malaise's Illusions: Chance of Damage(Psionic)

46: Cacophany: Chance of Damage(Energy)

Level 10: Fire Blast

A: Decimation: Accuracy/Damage

11: Decimation: Damage/Endurance

11: Decimation: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

13: Decimation: Damage/Recharge

15: Decimation: Chance of Build Up

50: Gladiator's Javelin: Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 12: Hasten

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction

13: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 14: Hover

A: Luck of the Gambler: Defense/Increased Global Recharge Speed

Level 16: Embrace of Fire

A: Invention: Recharge Reduction

50: Invention: Recharge Reduction

Level 18: Vines

A: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Endurance

19: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge

19: Unbreakable Constraint: Hold/Recharge/Accuracy

21: Unbreakable Constraint: Recharge/Accuracy

21: Unbreakable Constraint: Chance for Smashing Damage

Level 20: Mystic Flight

A: Winter's Gift: Slow Resistance (20%)

Level 22: Carrion Creepers

A: Bombardment: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

27: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage

27: Artillery: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

34: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)

37: Javelin Volley: Chance of Damage(Lethal)

40: Trap of the Hunter: Chance of Damage(Lethal)

Level 24: Spirit Ward

A: Preventive Medicine: Chance for +Absorb

Level 26: Fly Trap

A: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage

33: Expedient Reinforcement: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

33: Expedient Reinforcement: Damage/Endurance

33: Expedient Reinforcement: Endurance/Damage/Recharge

34: Soulbound Allegiance: Chance for Build Up

34: Touch of Lady Grey: Chance for Negative Damage

Level 28: Blazing Bolt

A: Superior Winter's Bite: Accuracy/Damage

31: Superior Winter's Bite: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

31: Superior Winter's Bite: Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

36: Gladiator's Javelin: Chance of Damage(Toxic)

37: Sting of the Manticore: Chance of Damage(Toxic)

37: Apocalypse: Chance of Damage(Negative)

Level 30: Blaze

A: Apocalypse: Damage

31: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge

39: Apocalypse: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy

39: Apocalypse: Recharge/Accuracy

40: Apocalypse: Damage/Endurance

40: Gladiator's Javelin: Chance of Damage(Toxic)

Level 32: Rune of Protection

A: Steadfast Protection: Resistance/+Def 3%

48: Gladiator's Armor: TP Protection +3% Def (All)

Level 35: Fire Ball

A: Superior Frozen Blast: Accuracy/Damage

36: Superior Frozen Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Endurance

36: Positron's Blast: Damage/Endurance

42: Positron's Blast: Chance of Damage(Energy)

43: Javelin Volley: Chance of Damage(Lethal)

43: Bombardment: Chance for Fire Damage

Level 38: Fire Shield

A: Invention: Resist Damage

39: Ribosome Exposure

Level 41: Rain of Fire

A: Superior Frozen Blast: Accuracy/Damage/Recharge

42: Superior Frozen Blast: Damage/Endurance/Accuracy/RechargeTime

42: Superior Frozen Blast: Damage/Endurance

Level 44: Consume

A: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge

45: Armageddon: Damage/Recharge/Accuracy

48: Armageddon: Recharge/Accuracy

A: Armageddon: Damage/Endurance

45: Armageddon: Chance for Fire Damage

Level 47: Spore Burst

A: Call of the Sandman: Chance of Heal Self

Level 49: Rise of the Phoenix

A: Overwhelming Force: Damage/Chance for Knockdown/Knockback to Knockdown

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Inherents:

Level 1: Domination

Level 1: Brawl

(Empty)

Level 1: Sprint

(Empty)

Level 2: Rest

(Empty)

Level 1: Swift

(Empty)

Level 1: Hurdle

(Empty)

Level 1: Health

A: Panacea: +Hit Points/Endurance

Level 1: Stamina

A: Performance Shifter: Chance for +End

Level 49: Quick Form

Level 14: Translocation

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