Superman: Legacy First Look

[Starhammer]

I have it on good authority the primary antagonist of the Supergirl movie will be Kara's AA sponsor :)

[Glacier Peak]

saw this finally. good fun. was a bit unsatisfied with the 

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headshot of the food vendor

it seemed REALLY out of place. 

[JKCarrier]

9 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

saw this finally. good fun. was a bit unsatisfied with the 

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headshot of the food vendor

it seemed REALLY out of place. 

That bothered me too. I suppose it served it's purpose, in that it

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made me totally despise Luthor and Ghurkos. But it did seem out of step with the otherwise optimistic tone.

Still, the movie hit so many right notes, I can't complain too much.

[ShardWarrior]

On 9/19/2025 at 3:41 PM, Glacier Peak said:

it seemed REALLY out of place. 

 

I agree and felt it did not have any real emotional impact.  This would have been much more compelling a scene if it were Jimmy Olsen instead.  

[Glacier Peak]

12 hours ago, ShardWarrior said:

Jimmy Olsen

Oh man right? He was almost always the kidnapped friend of Superman in the early Action Comic Silver Age, which this film draws heavily from. Then again, Jimmy has his own sub plot that would've fit better in a GotG film in my opinion. 

[JKCarrier]

12 hours ago, ShardWarrior said:

I agree and felt it did not have any real emotional impact.

 

I thought it had plenty of impact, it was just a little too nihilistic for such an otherwise optimistic film.

 

12 hours ago, ShardWarrior said:

This would have been much more compelling a scene if it were Jimmy Olsen instead.  

 

Disagree. The fact that Superman cares deeply about everyone, including some rando he barely knows, is a major theme of the film.

(After typing that, it occurred to me you might be making a sly reference to Batman v. Superman, which actually did that. Only the scene was so perfunctory that a lot of viewers didn't even realize the character was supposed to be Jimmy. If so, never mind. 😋)

[ShardWarrior]

7 hours ago, Glacier Peak said:

Oh man right? He was almost always the kidnapped friend of Superman in the early Action Comic Silver Age, which this film draws heavily from. Then again, Jimmy has his own sub plot that would've fit better in a GotG film in my opinion. 

 

I found Jimmy to be utterly annoying in this movie if I am being honest, nor could I take him seriously as a "ladies man" with women literally throwing themselves at him for some bizarre reason.  I do agree he would have fit perfectly in a GoTG film, as would Superman in many scenes.  As some have mentioned, at times I felt like I was watching SuperQuill instead of Superman.  I get that Gunn wanted to be more lighthearted than the brooding Superman from Man of Steel and BvS, however there were a few times here where I personally felt the pendulum swung a little too far on the eye rolling silly side.  

 

7 hours ago, JKCarrier said:

I thought it had plenty of impact, it was just a little too nihilistic for such an otherwise optimistic film.

 

We can agree to  disagree on the impact.

 

7 hours ago, JKCarrier said:

Disagree. The fact that Superman cares deeply about everyone, including some rando he barely knows, is a major theme of the film.

 

I understand that and I understand it affected Superman.  To me as a viewer, I have no investment in a random character with less than 30 seconds of screen time, so their demise has no impact on me the viewer.  It did not add any sense of urgency to the story.  

 

7 hours ago, JKCarrier said:

(After typing that, it occurred to me you might be making a sly reference to Batman v. Superman, which actually did that. Only the scene was so perfunctory that a lot of viewers didn't even realize the character was supposed to be Jimmy. If so, never mind. 😋)

 

I was not referencing BvS at all.

[BrandX]

On 9/23/2025 at 5:09 AM, ShardWarrior said:

 

I found Jimmy to be utterly annoying in this movie if I am being honest, nor could I take him seriously as a "ladies man" with women literally throwing themselves at him for some bizarre reason.  I do agree he would have fit perfectly in a GoTG film, as would Superman in many scenes.  As some have mentioned, at times I felt like I was watching SuperQuill instead of Superman.  I get that Gunn wanted to be more lighthearted than the brooding Superman from Man of Steel and BvS, however there were a few times here where I personally felt the pendulum swung a little too far on the eye rolling silly side.  

 

 

We can agree to  disagree on the impact.

 

 

I understand that and I understand it affected Superman.  To me as a viewer, I have no investment in a random character with less than 30 seconds of screen time, so their demise has no impact on me the viewer.  It did not add any sense of urgency to the story.  

 

 

I was not referencing BvS at all.

 

I felt the scene was showing just how evil Lex and the Belarus President were.  Lex murders someone in cold blood and they both shrug it off.  Lex is more than just a guy with a high IQ and a little prick who's jealous of Superman, he's evil regardless.  If it wasn't Superman he'd be going after someone else.

[battlewraith]

53 minutes ago, BrandX said:

 

I felt the scene was showing just how evil Lex and the Belarus President were.  Lex murders someone in cold blood and they both shrug it off.  Lex is more than just a guy with a high IQ and a little prick who's jealous of Superman, he's evil regardless.  If it wasn't Superman he'd be going after someone else.

The scene also took place in Luther’s pocket dimension, where his god complex is unfettered. 

[ShardWarrior]

3 hours ago, BrandX said:

I felt the scene was showing just how evil Lex and the Belarus President were.  Lex murders someone in cold blood and they both shrug it off.  Lex is more than just a guy with a high IQ and a little prick who's jealous of Superman, he's evil regardless.  If it wasn't Superman he'd be going after someone else.

 

You are certainly welcome to your opinion, however we already knew Lex is the bad guy and I understand his motivations just fine.  He has people illegally imprisoned against their will and without any trial in his own personal prison, including children.  Not to mention his willingness to murder tens of thousands (if not more) by allowing the dimensional rift to continue growing.  This scene in particular did not have any emotional impact to me as a viewer.  It would have had a far greater impact if it were a character that I as a viewer were invested in.  I think it was more to have Metamorpho see the light and help Superman, but I think that murdering falafel guy was not necessary for that to happen.  You are of course welcome to disagree.

[BrandX]

23 minutes ago, ShardWarrior said:

 

You are certainly welcome to your opinion, however we already knew Lex is the bad guy and I understand his motivations just fine.  He has people illegally imprisoned against their will and without any trial in his own personal prison, including children.  Not to mention his willingness to murder tens of thousands (if not more) by allowing the dimensional rift to continue growing.  This scene in particular did not have any emotional impact to me as a viewer.  It would have had a far greater impact if it were a character that I as a viewer were invested in.  I think it was more to have Metamorpho see the light and help Superman, but I think that murdering falafel guy was not necessary for that to happen.  You are of course welcome to disagree.

 

Yes.  We do.  But the non comic audience, but yes, I'd also say it helps lead Metamorpho realizing he can't just sit there in the hopes he can one day get to his son.

[ShardWarrior]

1 hour ago, BrandX said:

Yes.  We do.  But the non comic audience, but yes, I'd also say it helps lead Metamorpho realizing he can't just sit there in the hopes he can one day get to his son.

 

I am not sure what you mean by "non-comic audience".  I would think (hope) most people, regardless of being a comic fan or not, would understand that a man who imprisons people he does not like against their will and without any sort of trial is a bad person.  As far as Metamorpho, you would think that being put in a cell along with your infant son would be enough to realize Lex is a bad person and would enlist Superman's help.  I just find this part of the script a little on the weak side.  

[battlewraith]

I think the scene in part helps define Metamorpho as a character. I doubt many people watching that movie know him. The whole sequence tells us something about his powers and that he has a moral tipping point, at which he will risk further separation or even harm to his child in order to take a chance on Superman. 

[Excraft]

On 9/19/2025 at 3:41 PM, Glacier Peak said:

it seemed REALLY out of place. 

 

I think you're right.  Reading through the discussion here, it does seem out of place.

 

2 hours ago, ShardWarrior said:

As far as Metamorpho, you would think that being put in a cell along with your infant son would be enough to realize Lex is a bad person and would enlist Superman's help.  I just find this part of the script a little on the weak side.  

 

It is a bit odd.  Metamorpho clearly wasn't some milquetoast.  Seems to me he could have broken out of there and rescued his son quite easily with his power levels.  I know they needed him to make Kryptonite to explain how Superman doesn't just escape the prison, but I do agree this part of the script is on the thin side.