Hami Raids in The Hive

[Ukase]

I am super curious about this. 

Way back in maybe 2019, I probably earned close to 8K Reward Merits either taking turns leading the raids in the Hive or taunting hami. And then I just got kind of weirded out by some of the strange commentary by other folks in the league, so just figured I'd stop attending. 

Back then, a lot of the decisions on who would lead the raids was discussed either in chat on the Excelsior Discord (not run by anyone official as far as I know.) I want to say it was @foxfyre who started the discord, or some other former Justice player. Not sure how I squeezed into the rotation, but I did. 

It's not clear to me who the cool kids are now, calling these shots. And I guess my one big question is - why are we clearing mitos when it's clearly proven it's not necessary? One part of me likes it, because I always get some shards for my characters, which save me from having to use threads. 
And while it only takes another 2 minutes - it's time enough where we could squeeze in another round instead of just 3. 

Back then, the story went that folks were concerned about a nerf bat for us, or a buff to Hami, so we should play it slow. Well, I dunno. Okie & the Goddess and Maiden have been zerging hami for months on end. So why not zerg in the hive, too? 
Just wondering the why, more than anything else. 

[Oklahoman]

I don't know the answer, but I'm going to weigh in anyway because that's sort of what I do.

 

You can earn a Master of BAF badge through 2 runs (Keep em Separated and then Strong & Pretty), or you can do it all through 1 run. Obviously, the 1 run is preferable time-wise, but it is riskier. Just 1 misstep here or there and you miss one or more badges. We're at a point where the vast majority of the time a single run approach is successful, but I still run it both ways so everyone can choose what works best for them.

 

The zerg approach is a little quicker (as you mention), but riskier. I know we get complacent sometimes, but those of us who lead it know all too well how easily things can go south. It may look easy, but trust me - just a few disengaged people, or a few people bringing in low damage, and things can get uglier than truck stop sushi. And, we all dread the annual Trick or Treat event and people showing up with their brand new 50s to do a zerg - that's when we tend to see more failures than normal.

 

I rarely attend the Hive raids, but that's mostly because I'm old and decrepit and need to be in bed by that time. But I am glad that - much like Master of BAF - we have people offering the player base some different options. I'm told a diversified portfolio (whatever that is) is a good thing.

[lemming]

I take part in the raids on Everlasting and there are three different versions of the raid.

1) Standard

2) Fast Sue

3) Hamikaze

 

Standard is taking out the first set of Mitos, damage Hami to 75% to get next bloom, take out second, then kill Hami

Fast Sue is take out first set, then kill Hami

Hamikaze is just port in with as much DPS and kill Hami

 

Hamikaze is usually a special schedule.    Fast Sue happens when the lead thinks there's enough DPS.    Standard is the usual safe method.

Every so often the Hamikaze fails and you have a quad bloom.  Less often Fast Sue fails, but sometimes people don't take the EoE.    It's been years since I saw a Standard fail.   (And it's usually a soft fail, just takes awhile to cleanup and instead of at most 30 minutes, it takes a lot longer.)

 

And there's usually two runs there, but since Everlasting does 5, 7, 10, and midnight Eastern that's usually plenty.

 

And when one does a Hamikaze, unless Hami pops quickly, you're usually hanging out waiting for Lores to become available again for the second round.

[Oklahoman]

1 hour ago, lemming said:

And when one does a Hamikaze, unless Hami pops quickly, you're usually hanging out waiting for Lores to become available again for the second round.

 

Do they summon ALL lores each round?

[Laucianna]

Both work and there isn't a huge difference in time taken, some people like to keep that original feeling and I highly respect that and glad they do ❤️ Honestly the biggest factor when it comes to how fast and how many Hamis you can kill in a set amount of time is down to RNG with Hamidon spawning

[lemming]

7 hours ago, Oklahoman said:

Do they summon ALL lores each round?

Seem to.   At one point, I think they tried having 1/2 summon, but that's usually with the "slow".

 

As Laucianna says, the time it takes isn't much different anyway.