Tank farming - Not sure if this is right, but it works!

[Diantane]

Leveled a rad/ice tank doing arcs with teams up to 50. This tank would jump into any group and live without any issues. I've read that Super Strength is better for this because of Foot Stomp, but i beg to differ. Frozen Aura does the same amount of damage as FS (just cold vs smash). Plus with my constant Ice Patch, most foes around me keep falling down instead of hitting me.

 

Anyway I tried it in an AE smash/lethal mission and it was easy. I don't have any special build. No sets,. No incarnates yet and just single origin enhancements.

Edited October 30 by Diantane

[ZemX]

People talk about Foot Stomp because it's fun and smashy.  It FEELS powerful and it's a good AoE... but it's not the real reason SS is any good.   That'd be Rage and, specifically, stacked Rage, which you're only getting with a full IO build.

 

I'm not surprised you're getting better results on Ice Melee with standard slotting.  It's a much more well-rounded set.

 

For people who ARE delving into IOs though, Rad/SS is a particularly good combo because it's far less affected by Rage's crash than other primaries are.  It doesn't rely on defense, so the defense crash is not a big deal.  And there is bountiful endurance recovery in Rad to recover from the endurance crash part of Rage too.

[Maelwys]

> Tank farming - Not sure if this is right, but it works!

[Spaghetti Betty]

The neat thing about farming with a Tanker is that any one of them can be built to farm with ease! Sure, some combos won't farm as fast, but the only real criteria to meet for farming is not dying!

[MoonSheep]

ice melee on tanks benefits well from the AoE radius increase - frost becomes an even more incredible power

[Hjarki]

2 hours ago, MoonSheep said:

ice melee on tanks benefits well from the AoE radius increase - frost becomes an even more incredible power

Cones on Tankers are unusually effective for farming. All the various forms of primary damage and damage auras in secondary are no better on a Tanker than any other AT. PBAoE are increased by 60% to 16 targets - but that requires you actually have 16 targets (which you normally don't have for long). Cones, on the other hand, are increased by 100% and only require 10 targets to hit maximum effect.

 

Cones also work much more effectively with procs than PBAoE (or auras). A 90 degree 10' cone has an AF of 1.3825 while a 10' PBAoE has an AF of 2.125.

[Sanguinesun]

On 10/30/2024 at 10:07 AM, Diantane said:

Leveled a rad/ice tank doing arcs with teams up to 50. This tank would jump into any group and live without any issues. I've read that Super Strength is better for this because of Foot Stomp, but i beg to differ. Frozen Aura does the same amount of damage as FS (just cold vs smash). Plus with my constant Ice Patch, most foes around me keep falling down instead of hitting me.

 

Anyway I tried it in an AE smash/lethal mission and it was easy. I don't have any special build. No sets,. No incarnates yet and just single origin enhancements.

 

As for AE, you Im sure already you know about the guide in the guides section that has extensively discussed tanks for optimal infl per hour ratios for AE farming clearing.  Rad  as an armor set for S/L is easy to build for and has its 2 aoes too and considered the current top meta for -active- S/L farming.  But for those that may not be familiar with it, here's a link to it in the guides section: 

 

 

But ice isnt optimal. 

Can it farm? Absolutely, 100%. 

Is it the most optimal in terms of inf per hour?  Absolutely not.

 

Is it so low that its a discouragement for use for farming? No of course not.  Again its just not at the top of the list.

 

Rad/MA sits currently based on testing as the better inf/hour farmer for -active- farming.

 

Of course there are plenty of other combo's of tanks that people use for farming.  Many combos of rad/   for SL.  Axe, staff, fire(since its more aoe as a tank than a brute), thorns(classic) and more.

 

Then there's the fire/  famers too with different combos.

 

There's also plenty of brutes that still farm too be it s/l or fire(more typically).

 

One doesnt have to have min/max'd and gotten all their sets and accolades in place to start farming.  It just at its base requires hitting the damage type cap for the mobs the farm uses and choosing a map right for the toon.  You just simply dont set +4/8 to start and ramp it up as you get better sets, accolades and other things.  Or you spend some influ to get the start boosts to help too.   At any rate, such toons will farm but again not with the highest inf/hour.

 

And this is before you even talk about people who buck the norms and farm with non tank/brute combos as well. 

 

But as you go down the list of sets and AT's, the infl/hour starts to drop and in some cases dramatically. THis is  just simply because clearing can still happen, but it just goes slower is all so the inf/hour ratio becomes less.   

 

Point all being, this is nothing new in terms of capabilities to farm. Its about ones desires for inf/hour.   For some its a mini game of math unto itself really.

 

 

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As for rad/ice as a whole:

 

Rad/Ice has been a strong combo as a tank for a long time and if memory serves those guys that used to do videos on the forums back when ITF 4 star started used to speak about using Rad/Ice tanks then in some of their min/max teams.   The combination has alot of utility to it.

 

But again all this is nothing new but glad you've come to find it makes you happy.

Edited November 2 by Sanguinesun

[Octogoat]

Diantane made a positive thread. Oh honey I'm so proud of you in this moment!

[Frozen Burn]

On 10/29/2024 at 9:07 PM, Diantane said:

Leveled a rad/ice tank doing arcs with teams up to 50. This tank would jump into any group and live without any issues. I've read that Super Strength is better for this because of Foot Stomp, but i beg to differ. Frozen Aura does the same amount of damage as FS (just cold vs smash). Plus with my constant Ice Patch, most foes around me keep falling down instead of hitting me.

 

Anyway I tried it in an AE smash/lethal mission and it was easy. I don't have any special build. No sets,. No incarnates yet and just single origin enhancements.

 

If it works - then it IS right!  😄  Glad you found this and are having fun.