Vampire and Witch MMs

[TheMoneyMaker]

We need some new mastermind primaries. I know we have undead with Necromancy, but their pets are so zombie-ish. Why can't we get a vampire set so we can wander around with a brood of vampire underlings? Or a coven of witches? Or a pack of wolves? Something new? I think MM is the only AT that hasn't gotten any new primary powersets for the duration of Homecoming's existence.

[biostem]

21 minutes ago, TheMoneyMaker said:

I think MM is the only AT that hasn't gotten any new primary powersets

While I, too, would love some new MM primaries, my understanding is that they are some of, if not the, most complicated such set to create.  As for your proposals, TBH, I'd prefer something a bit more generic, or barring that, for the devs to devote any time they'd put into this kind of set, to be put toward MM pet customization instead - since we could then change the necro set into something like "feral vampires" for the T1s, vampire warriors for the T2s, and an elder vampire for the T3... 

[Luminara]

IBT@Snarky.

[Rudra]

7 minutes ago, Luminara said:

IBT@Snarky.

I've heard that for a sufficient number of blood packs, @Snarky will run around with a player and at least pretend to care about the instructions being given. Does that count? 😜

[biostem]

1 minute ago, Rudra said:

Does that count?

You're misunderstanding;  To @Snarky, his teammates ARE the blood packs...

[Rudra]

4 minutes ago, biostem said:

You're misunderstanding;  To @Snarky, his teammates ARE the blood packs...

Oh, I already knew that. It's why I routinely carry garlic and a balsa stake around with me. Just in case.

[Luminara]

2 minutes ago, biostem said:

You're misunderstanding;  To @Snarky, his teammates ARE the blood packs...

 

[Britannic]

While I'd love a raccoon themed MM primary, I'm more surprised there hasn't been a kitty cat one yet. Imagine all the crazy cat ladies.

[biostem]

22 minutes ago, Britannic said:

I'm more surprised there hasn't been a kitty cat one

You could just take the lionesses from beast mastery...

[TheMoneyMaker]

1 hour ago, biostem said:

As for your proposals, TBH, I'd prefer something a bit more generic

Guys with guns is probably the most generic concept there is and we have 2 of those already

 

But generic isn't always what's needed. A good thematic fit for minions makes for a good pet set. Things that hang around together normally would be ideal as pets, such as the aforementioned vampires, witches, and werewolves. Vampires do suck (ha ha) because of the similar power nature to Necromancy, but a coven of witches would be ideal. There's a lot of variety to what could be added to witches for powers, but throwing in a few storm blast powers for the MM to use as attacks would make it stand out from the other sets and go well with storm summoning as a secondary.

[biostem]

1 minute ago, TheMoneyMaker said:

But generic isn't always what's needed. A good thematic fit for minions makes for a good pet set. Things that hang around together normally would be ideal as pets, such as the aforementioned vampires, witches, and werewolves. Vampires do suck (ha ha) because of the similar power nature to Necromancy, but a coven of witches would be ideal. There's a lot of variety to what could be added to witches for powers, but throwing in a few storm blast powers for the MM to use as attacks would make it stand out from the other sets and go well with storm summoning as a secondary.

What I'd prefer would be a generic "elementalist" set, with minions that dealt fire, water, earth, and air-based attacks, (lightning would probably be the easiest for the latter).  If pet customization ever became a thing, then, sure, make them witches, or wizards, or pure elementals to your heart's content...

[TheMoneyMaker]

7 hours ago, biostem said:

What I'd prefer would be a generic "elementalist" set, with minions that dealt fire, water, earth, and air-based attacks, (lightning would probably be the easiest for the latter).  If pet customization ever became a thing, then, sure, make them witches, or wizards, or pure elementals to your heart's content...

I think I'd prefer the witches, and if they could ever get pet customization then you could make them generic to your heart's content.

[JasperStone]

Squirrels ...

[Videra]

14 hours ago, TheMoneyMaker said:

We need some new mastermind primaries. I know we have undead with Necromancy, but their pets are so zombie-ish. Why can't we get a vampire set so we can wander around with a brood of vampire underlings? Or a coven of witches? Or a pack of wolves? Something new? I think MM is the only AT that hasn't gotten any new primary powersets for the duration of Homecoming's existence.

 

While I wouldn't be opposed to new MM primaries, the AT itself has a litany of issues that need to be resolved and which *should* take priority over the creation of new powersets that would in-and-of-themselves be difficult to differentiate outside appearance.

Let's fix the fact that MM pets are slugs in a modestly well-paced team, or that they still have Down-level shifts outside of Incarnate Content before we consider adding more fluff.

[Shin Magmus]

2 hours ago, Videra said:

 

While I wouldn't be opposed to new MM primaries, the AT itself has a litany of issues that need to be resolved and which *should* take priority over the creation of new powersets that would in-and-of-themselves be difficult to differentiate outside appearance.

Let's fix the fact that MM pets are slugs in a modestly well-paced team, or that they still have Down-level shifts outside of Incarnate Content before we consider adding more fluff.

     Maybe we can address the fact that MM pets both have the longer-than-players Ragdoll animation when knocked, and that it is IMPOSSIBLE TO SLOT KB PROTECTION INTO PETS AT ALL?  There's 2 powersets MMs can take which give their impotent minions any KB protections, but outside of that their only option is to be forced to run Clarion Destiny... on an AT that really would prefer to be able to run Barrier Destiny.  That's just one of an extensive list of issues with MMs as an AT that the entire playerbase would be overjoyed to see fixed, improving playability and performance at all levels.  A shiny new powerset won't fix this stuff.

[Videra]

8 minutes ago, Shin Magmus said:

     Maybe we can address the fact that MM pets both have the longer-than-players Ragdoll animation when knocked, and that it is IMPOSSIBLE TO SLOT KB PROTECTION INTO PETS AT ALL?  There's 2 powersets MMs can take which give their impotent minions any KB protections, but outside of that their only option is to be forced to run Clarion Destiny... on an AT that really would prefer to be able to run Barrier Destiny.  That's just one of an extensive list of issues with MMs as an AT that the entire playerbase would be overjoyed to see fixed, improving playability and performance at all levels.  A shiny new powerset won't fix this stuff.

 

Based. Spit your shit indeed, Shin.

I pray one day MMs will be a real person AT.

[Shin Magmus]

10 minutes ago, Videra said:

I pray one day MMs will be a real person AT.

     In many relevant ways to actual performance (jumping through a map quickly and being able to y'know... attack targets such as Web Parts on a MLTF), MMs have always been worse than pre-buff Sentinels and human-only Kheldians.  You can't avoid these gameplay scenarios, especially if everyone else on the team is playing the game but you're a MM wondering where your pets are (sure would be nice to be able to make them move faster, or recall them to you consistently).

[Gobbledigook]

3 hours ago, JasperStone said:

Squirrels ...

Squirrel Girls everywhere!

 

I would like mini flying dragons that spit out different elemental damages with skin colors to match damage type. A choice of elemental damage types, ice/fire/elec etc with a toggle similar to Dual Pistols.

 

No need for group fly and they can be mostly ranged.

Edited December 24, 2024 by Gobbledigook